Is Sakura stronger than Tsunade

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Stronger? Do you mean in terms of strength or overall? If you mean strength, then I doubt it. Providing what Hashirama said as evidence to this is actually detrimental because (as we're made to believe) Hashirama compared her to a younger version of Tsunade. It only gets worse because the 'might' could also mean that younger version is actually still stronger.

If you mean overall, the answer is still no. Tsunade is Senju and has Uzumaki blood in her. That equates to a ridiculously strong body. She has been showing tanking hits without Byakugou. From what I see, the fact Sakura mastered Byakugou makes people assume she's stronger than Tsunade forgetting the years of experience she has backing her. I mean Lee and Gai are basically copies of each other but will one consider Lee to be stronger than Gai? Also Naruto and Hashirama (even though we don't know what sage he is) are perfect sages. Would one say SM Naruto is stronger than SM Hashirama?
 

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Stronger? Do you mean in terms of strength or overall? If you mean strength, then I doubt it. Providing what Hashirama said as evidence to this is actually detrimental because (as we're made to believe) Hashirama compared her to a younger version of Tsunade. It only gets worse because the 'might' could also mean that younger version is actually still stronger.

I stopped reading here. I have no words for people who literally think the God of Shinobi would outright boast about Sakura's strength if it was comparable to Tsunade when she was 6 years old. No words at all and I can't believe someone would even consider this.
 

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I stopped reading here. I have no words for people who literally think the God of Shinobi would outright boast about Sakura's strength if it was comparable to Tsunade when she was 6 years old. No words at all and I can't believe someone would even consider this.
Tbh, I can't remember that part of the manga and I was only going on the posts of other members here who said he compared her to a 5 year old since it seems they could recollect it. I would gladly remove such opinion from my mind if you can show me a scan or prove to me Hashirama had seen what current (war arc) Tsunade could do when he made the comment about Sakura. If not, it'll be unusual of you to be confident he wasn't comparing Sakura to a version of Tsunade he knew before he died.
 

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Tbh, I can't remember that part of the manga and I was only going on the posts of other members here who said he compared her to a 5 year old since it seems they could recollect it. I would gladly remove such opinion from my mind if you can show me a scan or prove to me Hashirama had seen what current (war arc) Tsunade could do when he made the comment about Sakura. If not, it'll be unusual of you to be confident he wasn't comparing Sakura to a version of Tsunade he knew before he died.

There are many direct comparison that can be made without the user ever encountering their capabilities such as C's comparison between Raikage and Minato or Ao's comment on Itachi's genjutsu despite the likelihood him never encountering Itachi in the first place. There's absolutely no reason why Kishimoto made a direct comparison between Tsunade and Sakura if she was only comparable to a 5 year old. Kishimoto wanted to cement the fact that she could somehow keep up with Naruto and Sasuke to the point where they didn't need to babysit her anymore. Would being on par with a 5 year old really emphasize that idea? Probably not.

I think it's utter denial. People are claiming that Hashirama compared her to a 5 year old because they dislike Sakura, but there's absolutely no reason why Hashirama would be impressed with Sakura and there's absolutely no indication that Tsunade had Chakra Control that enabled her to replicate what Sakura could. Actually, I'm astounded people think Tsunade had the Chakra Control needed to perform what Sakura did. That's absolutely ridiculous honestly.
 

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they are both same tier

strength wise sakura is stronger
 

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There are many direct comparison that can be made without the user ever encountering their capabilities such as C's comparison between Raikage and Minato or Ao's comment on Itachi's genjutsu despite the likelihood him never encountering Itachi in the first place. There's absolutely no reason why Kishimoto made a direct comparison between Tsunade and Sakura if she was only comparable to a 5 year old. Kishimoto wanted to cement the fact that she could somehow keep up with Naruto and Sasuke to the point where they didn't need to babysit her anymore. Would being on par with a 5 year old really emphasize that idea? Probably not.

I think it's utter denial. People are claiming that Hashirama compared her to a 5 year old because they dislike Sakura, but there's absolutely no reason why Hashirama would be impressed with Sakura and there's absolutely no indication that Tsunade had Chakra Control that enabled her to replicate what Sakura could. Actually, I'm astounded people think Tsunade had the Chakra Control needed to perform what Sakura did. That's absolutely ridiculous honestly.

Cee and Ao were probably able (because I really can't recollect any of this) to make direct comparisons because they were alive and heard about the exploits of the people they were making comparisons on. Raikage, Minato and Itachi were prominent names. Hashirama had just recently been resurrected and had neither seen nor heard of current Tsunade's exploits..its only natural he will base his comparison on the knowledge he has. If Kishimoto wanted to portray Sakura in the way you mentioned, then I guess he failed horribly as it came out the be the exact opposite imo.
I only dislike one character in the series and it is not Sakura. It just irks me when I see users place her on a pedestal she shouldn't be on. War arc Sakura isn't stronger than Tsunade.
 

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There are many direct comparison that can be made without the user ever encountering their capabilities such as C's comparison between Raikage and Minato or Ao's comment on Itachi's genjutsu despite the likelihood him never encountering Itachi in the first place. There's absolutely no reason why Kishimoto made a direct comparison between Tsunade and Sakura if she was only comparable to a 5 year old. Kishimoto wanted to cement the fact that she could somehow keep up with Naruto and Sasuke to the point where they didn't need to babysit her anymore. Would being on par with a 5 year old really emphasize that idea? Probably not.

I think it's utter denial. People are claiming that Hashirama compared her to a 5 year old because they dislike Sakura, but there's absolutely no reason why Hashirama would be impressed with Sakura and there's absolutely no indication that Tsunade had Chakra Control that enabled her to replicate what Sakura could. Actually, I'm astounded people think Tsunade had the Chakra Control needed to perform what Sakura did. That's absolutely ridiculous honestly.

hashirama most likely compared her to hypothetical tsunade considering Tsunade's feats pales in comparision to what Sakura did there
 

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Also Naruto and Hashirama (even though we don't know what sage he is) are perfect sages. Would one say SM Naruto is stronger than SM Hashirama?
I think SM Hashirama is stronger than SM Naruto only due to his experience with SM and his Mokuton.
 

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Databook makes the implication that her Chakra Control surpassed Tsunade's and Hashirama comments on Base Sakura being potentially more dangerous than Tsunade which leads to the implication that with Byakugou, she was decisively above Tsunade.

This is the ONLY comment in the entire thread that has any merit. Hashirama's statement + Sakura's base punch + 15 or so years of experience and mastery should easily put her above Tsunade, even if it's not by that much.
 

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I think SM Hashirama is stronger than SM Naruto only due to his experience with SM and his Mokuton.

My point exactly. Sage Mode enhances the physical abilities of its user yet Hashirama's SM is better than Naruto's. Why? Because Hashirama's base attacks with Mokuton is greater than Naruto's base attacks. This can be compared with Sakura and Tsunade in a way. Tsunade has Byakugou +CES+Uzumaki/Senju characteristics going for her while Sakura had only CES+Byakugou during the war arc.
Sakura isn't stronger than Tsunade.
 

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Tsunade can do everything Sakura can but Sakura cant do the same for Tsunade. Sakura would not have been able to sub for Tsunade during the Madara fight. She does not have the same battle skill and experience. She would not survive bisection.

  • Striking power - Debatable. Sakura certainly has the bigger feat but we never saw Part 2 Tsunade hit the ground. Plus Hashirama's commentary states they may be equal or at least close
  • Lifting strength - Tsunade for sure
  • Taijustu skill - Tsunade for sure. Sakura pales in comparison to someone who tagged Madara twice
  • Distance speed - They both have shown the amazing ability to dash huge distances
  • Reaction speed - Sakura certainly has shown great reaction feats like dodging acid while saving someone but she certainly does not have the focus and calmness Tsunade has in a battle like jumping to save the gokage from Madara's katon
  • Chakra - Based on Tsunade's lineage she would overall have more base chakra
  • Knowledge - Sakura's super smart to have mastered so much medical ninjustu in a short amount of time but Tsunade created techniques and a whole medical ninja system. Sakura pales in comparison based on intellect feats battle smarts.
  • Durability - Tsunade simply has way better feats in this department


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Medical support - Almost dead even as both can do network healing but Tsunade was able to one touch heal Shikamaru while Sakura was slowly bringing him back. Tsunade was able to make an arm for Naruto through Hashi's cells.

Maybe Sakura improved over the years but it seems she did not stay a full time ninja and times of peace likely meant less increase in fighting skills.

Sakura surely is strong and skilled but not on Tsunade's level simply based on battle feats, medical feats and knowledge feats.
 

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U realize hashirama died before tsusnde even reached prime ... So his observation is invalid

Again hashirama died 100 plus years before naruto started tsusnde around war arc is around age of 54 hashirama died before tsusnde even reached prime which should be... A little after hanzo etc

Who did Sakura fight at that period of time if I remember correctly only Jubbi clones ...

Who did tsusnde fight ? Edo Madara hmmm I wonder why she was tired and Sakura was not

Dude hashirama died before tsusnde even reached age of 20+ So what would he compare her too.. Ur just being idiotic

So this guy is not just spamming but comparing Sakura's punch to 5 y.o Tsunade and calling others idiotic :lol

whats being more idiotic is people comparing Hashirama to Naruto despite the fact his Mokuton is tiers above anything shown in manga :lol talk about desperate
 
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She surpassed her in strength said by Hashirama himself.

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Tsunade was 5 when Hashirama died. So Yin Seal Sakura = Toddler Tsuna.

By facts above, even stronger than the 4th Raikage, said by Madara himself.

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In terms of physical strength.
 

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Tsunade was 5 when Hashirama died. So Yin Seal Sakura = Toddler Tsuna.

we all know thats what u believe [ ]

and it is becoz of this along with ur hinata wank no one takes u seriously
 

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we all know thats what u believe [ ]

and it is becoz of this along with ur hinata wank no one takes u seriously

WOW! No one is going to take me seriously when I'm talking about a fictional series? That sucks.

Seriously though, my friend, it's clear Hashirama didn't live much to see Tsunade's youth, so he only would have seen her during her childhood, which would be what he's comparing Sakura to. Never the less, even if I agree with you and say Sakura is more or less on par with Tsunade in strength, Tsunade is still superior in Taijutsu and speed given her feats against Madara.
 

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WOW! No one is going to take me seriously when I'm talking about a fictional series? That sucks.
Oh yeah on the same forum where u are littering on for past 3-4 years with multiple accounts and multiple gender changes

Yeah that really sucks for u
Seriously though, my friend, it's clear Hashirama didn't live much to see Tsunade's youth, so he only would have seen her during her childhood, which would be what he's comparing Sakura to.

Yes He compared her to hypothetical Tsunade and it dosen't take Rocket science to understand but if the member is troll what can u say about him
And yes, I do know that's what Kishi MEANT to say, but I'm not gonna take his word for it.

And if you still want go on just Post Tsunade's feat that even remotely comes to sakura's.and i am talking about Byakugou Tsunade let alone the toddler that you are bringing here.
 

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Oh yeah on the same forum where u are littering on for past 3-4 years with multiple accounts and multiple gender changes

Yeah that really sucks for u

It does, doesn't it? Well, no matter, you keep thinking I actually have some sort of emotional attachment if it helps your superiority complex. But still, this is so amusing coming from a 2014 member who has over double the posts I do. IT would seem you're the one who enjoys "littering" here.

Yes He compared her to hypothetical Tsunade and it dosen't take Rocket science to understand but if the member is troll what can u say about him
Oh, please don't go pulling that on me now. Whenever I talk of hypothetical situations, even when I'm not addressing you, you simply show up and clamor on and on about the lack of manga panels available to prove my point, yet here you are doing the same thing.

And if you still want go on just Post Tsunade's feat that even remotely comes to sakura's.and i am talking about Byakugou Tsunade let alone the toddler that you are bringing here.

Hashirama said that Sakura's could be as good as Tsunade's. Either way, their strength is more or less equal according to what he said. Assuming Hashirama is talking about the current Tsunade.

Fact is, if I say Hashirama was comparing a kid Tsunade or current Tsunade to Sakura doesn't matter much, as either way, current Tsunade is more or less on par with Sakura in physical power.
 

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It does, doesn't it? Well, no matter, you keep thinking I actually have some sort of emotional attachment if it helps your superiority complex. But still, this is so amusing coming from a 2014 member who has over double the posts I do. IT would seem you're the one who enjoys "littering" here.
Oh wow Post count really matters when are 80% of mine are in FG and premium section but then again saying this to a member constantly litterring with half assed theories to wank hinata :lol

Oh, please don't go pulling that on me now. Whenever I talk of hypothetical situations, even when I'm not addressing you, you simply show up and clamor on and on about the lack of manga panels available to prove my point, yet here you are doing the same thing.

So there is literally no proof just hollow barking like you usually do eh

Hashirama said that Sakura's could be as good as Tsunade's. Either way, their strength is more or less equal according to what he said. Assuming Hashirama is talking about the current Tsunade.
And Hashirama made an assumption just like Orochimaru talked about EMS Sasuke surpassing EMS Madara.
The difference is on one hand Orochimaru did research and on other hand hashirama made an assumption which you have nothing to support.

So now lets compare feats oh wait u won't post Tsunade's feat on which you made that dumb statement


Fact is, if I say Hashirama was comparing a kid Tsunade or current Tsunade to Sakura doesn't matter much, as either way, current Tsunade is more or less on par with Sakura in physical power.
Read your post Ussop :lol you can deny all you want or try to change the topic but yeah you sprouted this crap
Tsunade graduated from the Academy at 6, so yes, she was in fact a ninja at that point in time.

And yes, I do know that's what Kishi MEANT to say, but I'm not gonna take his word for it. After all, why should I ignore the canon timeline just because Kishi made a retarded blunder? I'm not going to accept Kishimoto's words by what he means to say, I'm going to accept them by how he says them and how he presents them.

He ****ed up in this case, thus canonically confirming 5 Y/O Tsunade to be on par in strength to Yin Seal Sakura. I don't care if it was unintentional or an accident, what's in the manga is in the manga, as VS debates are through inverse perspective.

And before you bring up nonsense like ''Well, I guess that means Itachi IS invincible", the difference here is that that has been disproved while 5 Y/O Tsunade being on par with YS Sakura has not been. Not to mention anyone can tell the difference between a comparison and a Hyperbole
 
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Cee and Ao were probably able (because I really can't recollect any of this) to make direct comparisons because they were alive and heard about the exploits of the people they were making comparisons on. Raikage, Minato and Itachi were prominent names. Hashirama had just recently been resurrected and had neither seen nor heard of current Tsunade's exploits..its only natural he will base his comparison on the knowledge he has. If Kishimoto wanted to portray Sakura in the way you mentioned, then I guess he failed horribly as it came out the be the exact opposite imo.
I only dislike one character in the series and it is not Sakura. It just irks me when I see users place her on a pedestal she shouldn't be on. War arc Sakura isn't stronger than Tsunade.

They were prominent names, but there's absolutely no way of telling how Minato compared to Raikage or how proficient Itachi's capabilities were in terms of Genjutsu without actually encountering them. C made a statement explicitly comparing Base Raikage's reactions to Minato's despite never ever encountering or seeing Minato in battle. Likewise, Ao likely never encountered Itachi yet knew that only Itachi was capable of accomplishing what he did. Itachi wasn't even as famous and was only known for Amaterasu and Tsukyomi, not his general genjutsu capabilities.

I understand your point with the bold, but C nor Ao really had much intel on Minato and Itachi at all yet made detailed comparisons, so I hardly see why this couldn't apply to Hashirama at all. To be honest, I just find it intellectually dishonest that you think someone whose at the level that can at least fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke and reflect a Sannin's abilities at such a young age only be considered comparable to a 5 year old. I also find it intellectually dishonest that you choose to actually believe that 5 year old Tsunade had refined chakra control above even expert medical ninja. There's absolutely nothing at all that suggests what you're claiming is logical. Hashirama boasting about Sakura having as much strength as a 5 year old? Yeah, that's totally believable.
 
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