Amaterasu is faster than Kirin?

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Keep in mind Ay dodged Amatearsu and Itachi blocked Kirin with Susano'o. But since Ay is better he should be able to dodge Kirin as well?
 
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Well he wears a lighting cloak if he didnt dodge it i dont think it would be so sever if he got hit thats just my opinion
 

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1. Reaction time =/= Speed.
2. Amaterasu appears at the target location, and can only be dodged if the opponent can move out of the way during the activation time.
 

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1. Reaction time =/= Speed.
2. Amaterasu appears at the target location, and can only be dodged if the opponent can move out of the way during the activation time.

Ay dodged it when it was already activated. It was literally there and he reacted to it by moving out of the way before it could physically touch him
 

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It doesnt work that way buddy.
Necro has masterfully answered that question already.
 
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Ay dodged it when it was already activated. It was literally there and he reacted to it by moving out of the way before it could physically touch him

That's just not true.

Amaterasu spawns at the target location.

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This scan shows Amaterasu appearing within a solid construct of ice, that proves it does not travel from the eye to the target, but spawns at the target, albeit with a sense-able burst of chakra and a good tell (bleeding eye) which means the fastest man in the world could barely move out of the way as Amaterasu was being activated, not as it was traveling to the target.
 

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a>b and c>d, therefore a>d isnt even a logical fallacy. thats how bad your logic here is.


it Probably isnt, otherwise sasuke wouldnt have been able to dodge itachis.
 

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it Probably isnt, otherwise sasuke wouldnt have been able to dodge itachis.

Well Itachi wasn't even slightly trying to harm Sasuke. He intentionally kept it off while he aimed for the wing, a part he knew was disposable and non-lethal.
 

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So since Ay is better than Itachi at reflexes you're saying he can dodge Kirin?

What faulty logic? How is Ay going to dodge 1/3rd the speed of lightning, he doesn't move at the speed of light. You can't dodge Kirin, just react to it.

Amaterasu is a spawning jutsu, it doesn't travel like Kirin does so the comparison is bad there as well.
 

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Ay dodged it when it was already activated. It was literally there and he reacted to it by moving out of the way before it could physically touch him

No he dodged it because he saw Sasuke's eye bleed and already had intel on Amaterasu, even a fodder would have noticed the jutsu about to be used.
 

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That's just not true.

Amaterasu spawns at the target location.

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This scan shows Amaterasu appearing within a solid construct of ice, that proves it does not travel from the eye to the target, but spawns at the target, albeit with a sense-able burst of chakra and a good tell (bleeding eye) which means the fastest man in the world could barely move out of the way as Amaterasu was being activated, not as it was traveling to the target.

Ok but take a look at this. When Amataersu does not make contact with the first target made with eye contact it should automatically appear on whatever else is in the back ground but instead it travels through the air at a speed.

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Amaterasu being fired from the eye is like a gun being fired but the bullet starts at the targets position. If amaterasu is instant how was Ay, able to dodge it? I mean in Hebi sasuke's case it was understandable because he was running outside of Itachi's line of sight so he had to follow him with his eyes
 

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Ok but take a look at this. When Amataersu does not make contact with the first target made with eye contact it should automatically appear on whatever else is in the back ground but instead it travels through the air at a speed.

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Amaterasu being fired from the eye is like a gun being fired but the bullet starts at the targets position. If amaterasu is instant how was Ay, able to dodge it? I mean in Hebi sasuke's case it was understandable because he was running outside of Itachi's line of sight so he had to follow him with his eyes

It's not being fired from the eye, it's a small scale version of Kaguya's dimension summoning. Amaterasu is summoned from a different dimension hence why the eye bleeds like when Obito opened Kauya's dimension. Wherever the eye looks the flame appears and it follows the eye's target.
 

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So since Ay is better than Itachi at reflexes you're saying he can dodge Kirin?

What faulty logic? How is Ay going to dodge 1/3rd the speed of lightning, he doesn't move at the speed of light. You can't dodge Kirin, just react to it.

Amaterasu is a spawning jutsu, it doesn't travel like Kirin does so the comparison is bad there as well.

I don't think you understand. Reacting and dodging both are responses. Reacting is always seen as being faster because it depends on nerve impulses and dodging is seen as being slower because it depends on muscle reflexes. strangely enough nerve impulses don't travel near that speed also so how fast is Kirin
 

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It's not being fired from the eye, it's a small scale version of Kaguya's dimension summoning. Amaterasu is summoned from a different dimension hence why the eye bleeds like when Obito opened Kauya's dimension. Wherever the eye looks the flame appears and it follows the eye's target.

No It's fired from his eye but it spawns on the opponent like Necro Said. How we know this is that if anything appeared in between the eye and the target it would hit that object instead of the target. If you now move that object that's between the actual target and the eye closer to the eye you'll realize that it actually comes from it. It doesn't magically appear from some dimension that would make it beable to curve space time and bypass whatever is blocking Sasuke's line of sight from the actual Target
 

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It's not being fired from the eye, it's a small scale version of Kaguya's dimension summoning. Amaterasu is summoned from a different dimension hence why the eye bleeds like when Obito opened Kauya's dimension. Wherever the eye looks the flame appears and it follows the eye's target.
:kk: Dude what?
 

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No It's fired from his eye but it spawns on the opponent like Necro Said. How we know this is that if anything appeared in between the eye and the target it would hit that object instead of the target. If you now move that object that's between the actual target and the eye closer to the eye you'll realize that it actually comes from it. It doesn't magically appear from some dimension that would make it beable to curve space time and bypass whatever is blocking Sasuke's line of sight from the actual Target

It's not fired from the eye because it ignites at the same rate regardless of the target's distance. If it moved from point A to point B then the samurai would have been able to dodge the flame since he was further.

They're clearly not shot like laser beams because they ignite at any distance in an instant, they only appear where the eye looks similar to Kamui portals appearing where Kakashi looks.

If you noticed the flames appear in a spiral motion like a dimension portal
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:kk: Dude what?

It's explained
 
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