Naruto May Schedule (updated)

[Warlocks]

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Oh great more useless filler. SP might as well forget about Pissguya and move on to the Naruto vs Sasuke fight and work on the animation there.

This studio just doesn't know when to stop making fillers.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

He can always do a one shot like he did with mitsuki and naruto gaiden. I believe in an interview, he said he couldn't do a backstory for her because that'd extended the manga way past it's deadline.

Except that he missed his opportunities to do in The Last and Boruto Movie film, heck he even said between chapter 699-700 Sasuke was on his journey to uncover the secret of Kaguya yet Kishi stated he won't bother touching upon Kaguya and the ootsutski.

Yea Kishi was forced by his editor to end his manga and I'm pretty sure it's something that Kishimoto himself wanted to do concerning Kaguya's backstory in the anime. Anyway We can't say its filler without knowing if kishi has something to do with it or not.

 

[Angelic.]

Nice we get to know what really happened between her and her son's which kishi left as plot holes lol

 

[NextGenNinja]

Except that he missed his opportunities to do in The Last and Boruto Movie film, heck he even said between chapter 699-700 Sasuke was on his journey to uncover the secret of Kaguya yet Kishi stated he won't bother touching upon Kaguya and the ootsutski.

We did get some info on the otsutsuki and hamura in the last, and we find out why kaguya wanted to build a white zetsu army in the boruto movie.
This is what that interview said.
In order to unnecessarily avoid lengthening the manga, however, Kishimoto-sensei decided to skip writing about it and he has no plans to continue that storyline.
Ofc, that last part doesn't means it's totally out of the question. Kishi did say if he could continue naruto stories if he wants to. I still think kishi's new manga will flop and he'll be come running back to naruto

Yea Kishi was forced by his editor to end his manga and I'm pretty sure it's something that Kishimoto himself wanted to do concerning Kaguya's backstory in the anime. Anyway We can't say its filler without knowing if kishi has something to do with it or not.

I'm pretty sure shonen jump would've mentioned kishi working or giving approval to the new episodes.

 

[Zol]

Oh great more useless filler. SP might as well forget about Pissguya and move on to the Naruto vs Sasuke fight and work on the animation there.

This studio just doesn't know when to stop making fillers.

Forget about Kaguya? Forget about the main villain of the whole story? Forget about the climax? And instead move on to the epilogue (which Naruto/Sasuke basically is)?

Right...

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

We did get some info on the otsutsuki and hamura in the last, and we find out why kaguya wanted to build a white zetsu army in the boruto movie.
This is what that interview said.
In order to unnecessarily avoid lengthening the manga, however, Kishimoto-sensei decided to skip writing about it and he has no plans to continue that storyline.
Ofc, that last part doesn't means it's totally out of the question. Kishi did say if he could continue naruto stories if he wants to. I still think kishi's new manga will flop and he'll be come running back to naruto

No... Naruto the Last only talks about Ootsutksi specifically for Hamura and the Moon clan which has almost nothing to do with Kaguya. Boruto Movie only shows SHORT BRIEF Information of Kaguya building white zetsu to protect chakra fruit and nothing more. Its just that Kinshiki and Momo doesn't suggest to be the threat to her based on what its implying, more like they served her or taking revenge for Kaguya. Kishi doesn't bother giving enough explanatory or delve into Kaguya backstory in relationship with Momo nor do we get any answer how does white zetsu army are strong enough to protect the chakra fruit if shes not around. How does White zetsu even benefit Kaguya? Shinju tree are suppossed to be on Earth so how are there more Shinju around different dimension??

Instead filling up all these loose answers we needed, we get more question brought to the table. And yet you expect everything to be answered in such short brief information when its clearly difficult to make sense of it which doesn't help Momo or Kaguya characters especially the story.

Furthermore, we want to see Kaguya backstory in her flashback as to how she was sent to earth, what is her origin and where does she come from and how can any ootsutski without chakra can be even a threat to Kaguya. Who is even Kaguya husband, what was her life as a royal princess like. How does she spend with her children and why does she transformed into ten tail when she fought her two son.

Is it going to follow the tale of the bamboo princess.

Even some of what I listed have answered through the databook, I would rather see how is it going to execute in the anime than just leave it astray of all the inconsistencies and unexplained answers which I don't want simply rushed.

I'm pretty sure shonen jump would've mentioned kishi working or giving approval to the new episodes..

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't know if Kishi keeps on touch with Studio Pierrot with his work and keep it to themselves without ever bothering mentioning since in Japan, fillers are "non-existent" only the western people like you love to brought this kind of concept. It's not really filler since if some was stated in the databook but never showed in the manga, then I'm pretty sure it would be canon.

 

[NextGenNinja]

No... Naruto the Last only talks about Ootsutksi specifically for Hamura and the Moon clan which has almost nothing to do with Kaguya. Boruto Movie only shows SHORT BRIEF Information of Kaguya building white zetsu to protect chakra fruit and nothing more. Its just that Kinshiki and Momo doesn't suggest to be the threat to her based on what its implying, more like they served her or taking revenge for Kaguya. Kishi doesn't bother giving enough explanatory or delve into Kaguya backstory in relationship with Momo nor do we get any answer how does white zetsu army are strong enough to protect the chakra fruit if shes not around. How does White zetsu even benefit Kaguya? Shinju tree are suppossed to be on Earth so how are there more Shinju around different dimension

You said kishi won't bother "touching" up with the otsutsuki and i replied saying the last does give information on them, even if it's little. Even if it's brief it's still something related to kaguya, would you rather kishi not explain that at all? Yes, they were the threat. Sasuke confirms this.

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I'm not gonna bother addressing those points and the databook said the god tree will take root whenever there's a ton of bloodshed. Perhaps this will be explained in the boruto manga? Sasuke must know alot about kaguya and the otsutsuki considering he's been exploring her dimensions for over decade. There's still a possibility this can happen.

Instead filling up all these loose answers we needed, we get more question brought to the table. And yet you expect everything to be answered in such short brief information when its clearly difficult to make sense of it which doesn't help Momo or Kaguya characters especially the story.

A one shot can explain alot of things. even if it's not all the answer.

Furthermore, we want to see Kaguya backstory in her flashback as to how she was sent to earth, what is her origin and where does she come from and how can any ootsutski without chakra can be even a threat to Kaguya. Who is even Kaguya husband, what was her life as a royal princess like. How does she spend with her children and why does she transformed into ten tail when she fought her two son.

Like i said this can still be explained, this series is being milked to the brim so kishi will take any opportunity to get more yen.

Is it going to follow the tale of the bamboo princess.

She's based on the legend so no surprise there.
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ven some of what I listed have answered through the databook, I would rather see how is it going to execute in the anime than just leave it astray of all the inconsistencies and unexplained answers which I don't want simply rushed.

I rather have it explain canonically than in some anime, not written by kishi. Ofc, if there's ever one shot made, i can pretty much guarantee you it'll get an anime.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't know if Kishi keeps on touch with Studio Pierrot with his work and keep it to themselves without ever bothering mentioning since in Japan, fillers are "non-existent" only the western people like you love to brought this kind of concept. It's not really filler since if some was stated in the databook but never showed in the manga, then I'm pretty sure it would be canon.

Speculation and more speculation on your part. Kishimoto is aware of what canon is since he even said the boruto manga is canon. You have zero proof that this filler backstory is approved by kishi, if yourself think it's canon. then i'm not going to stop you there.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

You said kishi won't bother "touching" up with the otsutsuki and i replied saying the last does give information on them, even if it's little.

I didn't say such thing, you clearly didn't read what I stated. I'm obviously referring to Kaguya as her time as an ootsutski and everything before her times ended when she was sealed inside the moon. Everything after that was pretty much irrelevant, in the Last all we know is that Hamura and his tribe was just there to safe guard the moon and everything that happens during that time was war in ancient civilization through the the power of tenseigan. Nothing answer anything about Kaguya. And we all know what happen when Madara summoned the Gedo mazo to earth while BZ took actions.

Even if it's brief it's still something related to kaguya, would you rather kishi not explain that at all? Yes, they were the threat. Sasuke confirms this.

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I'm not gonna bother addressing those points and the databook said the god tree will take root whenever there's a ton of bloodshed. Perhaps this will be explained in the boruto manga? Sasuke must know alot about kaguya and the otsutsuki considering he's been exploring her dimensions for over decade. There's still a possibility this can happen.

A brief information that only confirms one thing yet leaves so much question is still nothing. We still don't know how Momo and Kinishiki are even strong to begin with before the Chakra fruit exist, how do these Ootsutski during primogenitor time developed their connection with Kaguya , why does Momo want to gather chakra frutit? What is his motives and how is white zetsu armies are capable enough to stop someone like Momo?? Furthermore there are more implication that Momo and Kinishiki are not the only threat.
You think its best to conclude by giving small theories and leave it as that, it would seem you would rather have Kishi giving lots of retcons with empty shallow characters who are rushed without providing any in-depth through their backstory. Since you want to hop on Kishi deck so much I guess that means you don't care enough to acknowledge the flaws within the compound of this series.

A one shot can explain alot of things. even if it's not all the answer.

So you admitted that you;re fine with seeing incomplete and inconsistent so you can maintain your opinion of whats canon stuff.

Like i said this can still be explained, this series is being milked to the brim so kishi will take any opportunity to get more yen.

No this is piss poor writing cause it should've been explained during Kaguya arc so it holds more weight on her character when its relevant matter but it's Way too late for that. It took 2 films plus gaiden, oneshot and yet Kishi still failed to provide enough explanation and detail in regards to kaguya. That goes to show you that Kishi is horrible writer.
But wait, it can't be explain when it's clearly Boruto Generation but since you rather be optimistic to be explain on the Boruto manga which is milking rather than giving explanation in Kaguya arc by SP who had the opportunity to make it justice and even arguably holds accountable on Kishi work.

Oh well atleast SP makes the right decision to listen the majority fans like me to give expansion on Kaguya characters so no point in complaining.

I rather have it explain canonically than in some anime, not written by kishi. Ofc, if there's ever one shot made, i can pretty much guarantee you it'll get an anime.

Once again, you would rather stick with all the inconsistencies dealing with halfass content in your obsession with canon stuff. That literally adds nothing to what you just said. Like I said before, SP have some great extent knowledge from kishi work.

Speculation and more speculation on your part. Kishimoto is aware of what canon is since he even said the boruto manga is canon. You have zero proof that this filler backstory is approved by kishi, if yourself think it's canon. then i'm not going to stop you there.

Yes and more and more speculation on your part without even proof that it wasn't approved by kishi but wait since Kishi signed the contract with SP to produce anime, they hold more authority to do so than Kishi. In fact some of these fillers when it comes to filling these loose ending from the manga, in the past they have some accountable from Kishi databook or his draft. There's no proof whether Kishi never makes any contact with SP.

Once again you jumped the conclusion to make another speculation that within Kaguya flashback SP won't follow everything that was confirmed from Kishi within important key points summary that didn't happen in the manga. So even it has some fillers during the execution point before marked "canon"during kaguya flashback, as long it doesn't contradict anything, then it doesn't take everything that would be fillers.

 

[NextGenNinja]

I didn't say such thing, you clearly didn't read what I stated. I'm obviously referring to Kaguya as her time as an ootsutski and everything before her times ended when she was sealed inside the moon. Everything after that was pretty much irrelevant, in the Last all we know is that Hamura and his tribe was just there to safe guard the moon and everything that happens during that time was war in ancient civilization through the the power of tenseigan. Nothing answer anything about Kaguya. And we all know what happen when Madara summoned the Gedo mazo to earth while BZ took actions.

Lmao yes you did.

Except that he missed his opportunities to do in The Last and Boruto Movie film, heck he even said between chapter 699-700 Sasuke was on his journey to uncover the secret of Kaguya yet Kishi stated he won't bother touching upon Kaguya and the ootsutski.

^Bold

A brief information that only confirms one thing yet leaves so much question is still nothing. We still don't know how Momo and Kinishiki are even strong to begin with before the Chakra fruit exist, how do these Ootsutski during primogenitor time developed their connection with Kaguya , why does Momo want to gather chakra frutit? What is his motives and how is white zetsu armies are capable enough to stop someone like Momo?? Furthermore there are more implication that Momo and Kinishiki are not the only threat.
You think its best to conclude by giving small theories and leave it as that, it would seem you would rather have Kishi giving lots of retcons with empty shallow characters who are rushed without providing any in-depth through their backstory. Since you want to hop on Kishi deck so much I guess that means you don't care enough to acknowledge the flaws within the compound of this series.

Lmao, me hopping on kishi's D? You're trying to suck off SP by trying to convince me their filler canon. on the contrary. kishi's writing turned into absolute garbage during the war arc. Kaguya is practically the embodiment of kishi's crap writing.

So you admitted that you;re fine with seeing incomplete and inconsistent so you can maintain your opinion of whats canon stuff.

What i meant by not all the answers is minor stuff, yes i would like an explanation for where they came from and such. But at this point, i don't really care anymore.

No this is piss poor writing cause it should've been explained during Kaguya arc so it holds more weight on her character when its relevant matter but it's Way too late for that. It took 2 films plus gaiden, oneshot and yet Kishi still failed to provide enough explanation and detail in regards to kaguya. That goes to show you that Kishi is horrible writer.
But wait, it can't be explain when it's clearly Boruto Generation but since you rather be optimistic to be explain on the Boruto manga which is milking rather than giving explanation in Kaguya arc by SP who had the opportunity to make it justice and even arguably holds accountable on Kishi work.

Kaguya's existence is piss poor writing. She's literally the rabbit that came from nowhere. :|
Honestly, even if there was backstory to her. That would do very little to justify her horrible asspull revival.

Oh well atleast SP makes the right decision to listen the majority fans like me to give expansion on Kaguya characters so no point in complaining.

What if SP screws this up? I mean you call me optimistic hoping kishi would do something but you here think SP will somehow justify kaguya. At this point her character is unredeemable.

Once again, you would rather stick with all the inconsistencies dealing with halfass content in your obsession with canon stuff. That literally adds nothing to what you just said. Like I said before, SP have some great extent knowledge from kishi work.

Irrelevant, this still doesn't make it canon.

Yes and more and more speculation on your part without even proof that it wasn't approved by kishi but wait since Kishi signed the contract with SP to produce anime, they hold more authority to do so than Kishi. In fact some of these fillers when it comes to filling these loose ending from the manga, in the past they have some accountable from Kishi databook or his draft. There's no proof whether Kishi never makes any contact with SP.

Speculation? Oh boy, since you're trying so hard to make something from the anime canon. Let's make mecha naruto canon, hell let's make the ninja ostrich canon too! How do you not know if kishi didn't approve this? That's how silly you sound.

Once again you jumped the conclusion to make another speculation that within Kaguya flashback SP won't follow everything that was confirmed from Kishi within important key points summary that didn't happen in the manga. So even it has some fillers during the execution point before marked "canon"during kaguya flashback, as long it doesn't contradict anything, then it doesn't take everything that would be fillers.

I'm not even gonna bother with this. just more silly attempts of trying to justify the anime being "canon".
This is my last reply, i'm going to give you so don't bother quoting me.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Lmao yes you did.

^Bold

You failed to interpret my message once again. When I've said "Kaguya and Ootsutski" I'm referring to Oootsutski during Kaguya was around. You see I don't need to give indepth details without any precise on my statement because you said it yourself, a short brief sentence would give you good perception . You see what that proves? Sorry if that tick you off.

Lmao, me hopping on kishi's D? You're trying to suck off SP by trying to convince me their filler canon. on the contrary. kishi's writing turned into absolute garbage during the war arc. Kaguya is practically the embodiment of kishi's crap writing.

No, no and no. You're reaching. The whole point of this discussion is that you want to generalize Kaguya fillers as complete unnecessary asset to the series and yet you're fine with dealing the garbage that Kishi wrote even you had wished that Kaguya gets more backstory given more expansion to her development. Such Hypocrites you are.

Then you brought up that Kaguya fillers are noncanon to refute your point.

Objectively speaking, you had no idea if it would be fillers but whatever even then it still wouldn't matter as long as it follows within the context of manga/databook without making any contradiction, then it's more or less canon and to some people who would consider it. Comparing some anime and manga have some originality in story so to each in their own can be canonically speaking.
Because like I said before the concept of "Fillers" are non-existent in Japan.

Kishimoto even stated in the interview that the whole Kaguya arc and Naruto vs sasuke was rushed and was forced to end it by his editor and SJ. In that case, Kishi would've wanted the anime to do so which is highly likely.

I know for a fact based on track record, some fillers follows the premise of the series and some can be given canonically based on the info we've got from Kishi within the compound of fillers.

What i meant by not all the answers is minor stuff, yes i would like an explanation for where they came from and such. But at this point, i don't really care anymore.

If you don't care whats good for the series, then I shouldn't bother arguing with you in the first place.

Kaguya's existence is piss poor writing. She's literally the rabbit that came from nowhere. :|
Honestly, even if there was backstory to her. That would do very little to justify her horrible asspull revival.

Having little Justification will always be better than having nothing. Strangely enough, people already start to like Kaguya more in the anime than in the manga. Lately people makes alot of threads about Kaguya in the Anime. I mean it cant be obvious right??

What if SP screws this up? I mean you call me optimistic hoping kishi would do something but you here think SP will somehow justify kaguya. At this point her character is unredeemable.

It's best to be optimistic when SP had the perfect opportunity to develop Kaguya when its RELEVANT in her role at the final arc rather than giving aftermath that gives no contribution to her character. Yea at this point its nonredeemable when the boruto manga is nothing but milking which proves my point here, it's too late.

Kaguya arc is already bad enough so there's no harm in losing it if SP screw up.

Irrelevant, this still doesn't make it canon.

Whatever floats your boat.

Speculation? Oh boy, since you're trying so hard to make something from the anime canon. Let's make mecha naruto canon, hell let's make the ninja ostrich canon too! How do you not know if kishi didn't approve this? That's how silly you sound.

I didn't say all fillers you dimwit, I'm simply saying you had no idea if Kishi was involved behind the scene especially when its centered how believable the fillers are with manga that is the question we should have in mind. and for one, Kishi has drawn mechanaruto so that fillers is obviously a promo for the game. So no matter how farfetched the ostrich fillers are, it can't be compared to atrocity of Kakashi asspull PS or Naruto Healing jesus power or all the retcons Kishi literally pulled.
Try hard?? More like its common sense .

I'm not even gonna bother with this. just more silly attempts of trying to justify the anime being "canon".
This is my last reply, i'm going to give you so don't bother quoting me.

Yea don't bother with your futile attempt to undermine everything that I have disprove if you can't even come up with your argument. I'm gonna keep replying if thats how it goes. Simple as that.

 

[NextGenNinja]

You failed to interpret my message once again. When I've said "Kaguya and Ootsutski" I'm referring to Oootsutski during Kaguya was around. You see I don't need to give indepth details without any precise on my statement because you said it yourself, a short brief sentence would give you good perception . You see what that proves? Sorry if that tick you off.

You weren't specific, you should've said kaguya and otsutsuki around her time. You made it seem like you were talking about the otsutsuki as a whole.

No, no and no. You're reaching. The whole point of this discussion is that you want to generalize Kaguya fillers as complete unnecessary asset to the series and yet you're fine with dealing the garbage that Kishi wrote even you had wished that Kaguya gets more backstory given more expansion to her development. Such Hypocrites you are.

I never said this filler was unnecessary. I just refuse to acknowledge as canon, simple as that.

Then you brought up that Kaguya fillers are noncanon to refute your point.

They are tho??? :lol

Objectively speaking, you had no idea if it would be fillers but whatever even then it still wouldn't matter as long as it follows within the context of manga/databook without making any contradiction, then it's more or less canon and to some people who would consider it. Comparing some anime and manga have some originality in story so to each in their own can be canonically speaking.
Because like I said before the concept of "Fillers" are non-existent in Japan.

That really doesn't justify it being canon. Author aka "word of god" confirms things being part of the story, so kishi at least knows what it is.

Kishimoto even stated in the interview that the whole Kaguya arc and Naruto vs sasuke was rushed and was forced to end it by his editor and SJ. In that case, Kishi would've wanted the anime to do so which is highly likely.

@Bold. Kishi has never hinted or implied anything like that at all.

I know for a fact based on track record, some fillers follows the premise of the series and some can be given canonically based on the info we've got from Kishi within the compound of fillers.

Proof?

If you don't care whats good for the series, then I shouldn't bother arguing with you in the first place.

I'm starting to care less about the otsutsuki backstory. You made me realize it's a slim chance of it not happening, it's probably going to go unexplained just like the uzumaki backstory....

Having little Justification will always be better than having nothing. Strangely enough, people already start to like Kaguya more in the anime than in the manga. Lately people makes alot of threads about Kaguya in the Anime. I mean it cant be obvious right??

Ofc, some people are happy SP is doing that. I can still almost guarantee they'll still think she's a bad villain.

It's best to be optimistic when SP had the perfect opportunity to develop Kaguya when its RELEVANT in her role at the final arc rather than giving aftermath that gives no contribution to her character. Yea at this point its nonredeemable when the boruto manga is nothing but milking which proves my point here, it's too late

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dude, they only seem to explain her backstory in this just this next episode. going by the title episode after that, it's going to be hago and hamura's turn....

Kaguya arc is already bad enough so there's no harm in losing it if SP screw up.

So what do you have to lose then?

Whatever floats your boat.

Same to you.

I didn't say all fillers you dimwit, I'm simply saying you had no idea if Kishi was involved behind the scene especially when its centered how believable the fillers are with manga that is the question we should have in mind. and for one, Kishi has drawn mechanaruto so that fillers is obviously a promo for the game. So no matter how farfetched the ostrich fillers are, it can't be compared to atrocity of Kakashi asspull PS or Naruto Healing jesus power or all the retcons Kishi literally pulled.
Try hard?? More like its common sense .

I was using your logic against you and you have no proof if kishi is involved at all. Ofc, i could look around and see who's the writers for the episodes. I don't think that kind of info is around but i can try if it'll shut you up about kishi being supposedly involved.

Yea don't bother with your futile attempt to undermine everything that I have disprove if you can't even come up with your argument. I'm gonna keep replying if thats how it goes. Simple as that.

These arguments are just pointless at this point, i''ll just get a mod to close it.

 

[123fire]

You weren't specific, you should've said kaguya and otsutsuki around her time. You made it seem like you were talking about the otsutsuki as a whole.


I never said this filler was unnecessary. I just refuse to acknowledge as canon, simple as that.


They are tho??? :lol

That really doesn't justify it being canon. Author aka "word of god" confirms things being part of the story, so kishi at least knows what it is.

@Bold. Kishi has never hinted or implied anything like that at all.

Proof?





I'm starting to care less about the otsutsuki backstory. You made me realize it's a slim chance of it not happening, it's probably going to go unexplained just like the uzumaki backstory....





Ofc, some people are happy SP is doing that. I can still almost guarantee they'll still think she's a bad villain.


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dude, they only seem to explain her backstory in this just this next episode. going by the title episode after that, it's going to be hago and hamura's turn....

So what do you have to lose then?



Same to you.



I was using your logic against you and you have no proof if kishi is involved at all. Ofc, i could look around and see who's the writers for the episodes. I don't think that kind of info is around but i can try if it'll shut you up about kishi being supposedly involved.


These arguments are just pointless at this point, i''ll just get a mod to close it.

Its Frkn Kaguya!! How can HER backstroy be irrelevant or useless?? We all hated her because kishi didn't tell us her backstory ! But now thank god the anime will do!

We should be grateful ! Kaguya is the MAIN ANTAGONIST/VILLAIN of naruto shippuden , obito had a backstroy , Madara had a backstroy , Nagato had a backstory , orochimaru had a backstory , how can the MAIN lack a backstory? SP is logical kishi isn't! WE MUST HAVE A KAGUYA FILLER FLASHBACK

 

[123fire]

Oh great more useless filler. SP might as well forget about Pissguya and move on to the Naruto vs Sasuke fight and work on the animation there.

This studio just doesn't know when to stop making fillers.

Yeah because talking about The MAIN VILLAIN'S backstory is useless right? Then Madara's, Obito's , Nagato's is useless too?

 

[NextGenNinja]

Its Frkn Kaguya!! How can HER backstroy be irrelevant or useless?? We all hated her because kishi didn't tell us her backstory ! But now thank god the anime will do!

We should be grateful ! Kaguya is the MAIN ANTAGONIST/VILLAIN of naruto shippuden , obito had a backstroy , Madara had a backstroy , Nagato had a backstory , orochimaru had a backstory , how can the MAIN lack a backstory? SP is logical kishi isn't! WE MUST HAVE A KAGUYA FILLER FLASHBACK

I never said her backstory is irrelevant. It's just the guy I'm talking to refuses to think of it as filler. It may be backstory stuff but just like the last itachi arc, it's filler aka non canon.
Btw kaguya was hated more than just not having a backstory.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

You weren't specific, you should've said kaguya and otsutsuki around her time. You made it seem like you were talking about the otsutsuki as a whole.

Of course it wasn't specific when it was only a short brief statement. I even tried to clarify on my last 2 previous post and you still couldn't comprehend it kinda made yourself look like a fool if you ask me.

I never said this filler was unnecessary. I just refuse to acknowledge as canon, simple as that.

Well you are complaining given the impression that you don't want the fillers at all, you even said you refuse to have fillers done by SP because you want to generalize all fillers irrelevant which is obviously not the case when we're talking about anime only it has great significance to the plot for example 6 tails filler arc.

They are tho??? :lol

Deep down, it will always question whether Kishi was involved or not.

That really doesn't justify it being canon. Author aka "word of god" confirms things being part of the story, so kishi at least knows what it is.

What makes you think the Anime doesn't have some knowledge with Kishi work, stop speculating, we havn't we gotten to the fillers yet and already you jumped to the conclusion.

@Bold. Kishi has never hinted or implied anything like that at all.

I remember he makes one of the comments where he makes some regrets in the war arc. Kishi even made some reason something about the war arc to give the anime team a lead for a filler story. That was a while back and I'm not gonna bother wasting my time browsing through the site to find the specifics but anyway if Kishi has said something along the line of anime and fillers then it should be no surprising that he overlook his own anime and wanted the staff to do so.
It's your choice if you gonna buy it or not.

Proof?

Watch Kakashi anbu filler arc.

I'm starting to care less about the otsutsuki backstory. You made me realize it's a slim chance of it not happening, it's probably going to go unexplained just like the uzumaki backstory....

Well for that there's really no point in arguing with you but since we've come off topic, I suppose its too late for that since there's other important matter to address here.

Ofc, some people are happy SP is doing that. I can still almost guarantee they'll still think she's a bad villain.

Yes because it hasn't even started yet, and ofc she's still a bad villain but atleast it would be done better than the manga. Furthermore the animation and the new OST really appeals Kaguya.



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dude, they only seem to explain her backstory in this just this next episode. going by the title episode after that, it's going to be hago and hamura's turn....

Yea and so what?? Everything still revolve around Kaguya. hagoromo and hamura turn while kaguya is still around. Also it could mean that Kaguya overlook her children. Stop jumping to the conclusion when we havn't seen the fillers yet.

So what do you have to lose then?

I don't lose anything cause that can be easily avoided, you can skip all these filler so long it doesn't integrate with the canon, and just ignore it. If you marathon the series, ofc you would enjoy it more, you can determine which fillers to be canon (if you think its good) and just watch through all episodes as you're catching up.

As a weekly watcher, the only thing that I'm gonna lose is wasting my time if the fillers turn out to be crap. However SP shows great promising on Kaguya fillers plus I find Kaguya to be intriguing so it's worth a try.

Same to you.

To each on their own.

I was using your logic against you and you have no proof if kishi is involved at all. Ofc, i could look around and see who's the writers for the episodes. I don't think that kind of info is around but i can try if it'll shut you up about kishi being supposedly involved.

OFC Kishi wasn't involve with his draft , what I'm referring to is that if SP talks to Kishi about anything that wasn't cover in the manga before producing anything that gives some retcons. This might happen too common with how they make some small contact but I don't have such proof as well you don't so in other word we'll never know and it all comes down to speculation.

These arguments are just pointless at this point, i''ll just get a mod to close it.

Well if you want to run away with your tail between your leg that is...

 

[NextGenNinja]

Of course it wasn't specific when it was only a short brief statement. I even tried to clarify on my last 2 previous post and you still couldn't comprehend it kinda made yourself look like a fool if you ask me.

Well, you're the bigger fool for thinking this filler is canon. Go ahead make a thread trying to claim this filler is canon. Maybe someone will talk some sense into you.

Well you are complaining given the impression that you don't want the fillers at all, you even said you refuse to have fillers done by SP because you want to generalize all fillers irrelevant which is obviously not the case when we're talking about anime only it has great significance to the plot for example 6 tails filler arc.

I was expressing irritation that there's going to be more than a month of filler. We had like like one or two episodes of canon? at this rate, i wont be surprised if the anime ends in two years....

Deep down, it will always question whether Kishi was involved or not.

Kishimoto has never been involved with the shippuden anime. Wouldn't you think this would be highlighted or mentioned that kishimoto the creator of the friggin manga. Is going to have a role in making this crude?
That would attract more viewers to watch the damn anime, if that were the case. don't you think?

What makes you think the Anime doesn't have some knowledge with Kishi work, stop speculating, we havn't we gotten to the fillers yet and already you jumped to the conclusion.

This is the friggin anime. There has never been an arc in the anime that has been confirmed canon ever, why start now so late in the game?
inb4 " uh duh cos it kaguya"
That doesn't mean jack squat.

I remember he makes one of the comments where he makes some regrets in the war arc. Kishi even made some reason something about the war arc to give the anime team a lead for a filler story. That was a while back and I'm not gonna bother wasting my time browsing through the site to find the specifics but anyway if Kishi has said something along the line of anime and fillers then it should be no surprising that he overlook his own anime and wanted the staff to do so.
It's your choice if you gonna buy it or not.

No proof? Concession accepted.

Watch Kakashi anbu filler arc.

I did but that really didn't make any sense. Why in the hell would hashirama leave behind a wood style scroll? When has yamato ever been hinted to have trained or came from the foundation? I don't recall that from the manga at all.

Well for that there's really no point in arguing with you but since we've come off topic, I suppose its too late for that since there's other important matter to address here.

Thanks for draining me of hope, are all of you hyuga fans like that? Well, i would be pissed too, if that author threw away my background clan's potential down the toilet.

Yes because it hasn't even started yet, and ofc she's still a bad villain but atleast it would be done better than the manga. Furthermore the animation and the new OST really appeals Kaguya.

Well, if you really think that then okay, sure.


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Yea and so what?? Everything still revolve around Kaguya. hagoromo and hamura turn while kaguya is still around. Also it could mean that Kaguya overlook her children. Stop jumping to the conclusion when we havn't seen the fillers yet.

Prepare for disappointment then.

I don't lose anything cause that can be easily avoided, you can skip all these filler so long it doesn't integrate with the canon, and just ignore it. If you marathon the series, ofc you would enjoy it more, you can determine which fillers to be canon (if you think its good) and just watch through all episodes as you're catching up.

What canon material isn't up to you or anyone but the creator. Kishi has the final say even if it's trash.

As a weekly watcher, the only thing that I'm gonna lose is wasting my time if the fillers turn out to be crap. However SP shows great promising on Kaguya fillers plus I find Kaguya to be intriguing so it's worth a try.

You actually sticked to watching this crude the entire year? Oh man, and here i thought i wasted my time on this site.

OFC Kishi wasn't involve with his draft , what I'm referring to is that if SP talks to Kishi about anything that wasn't cover in the manga before producing anything that gives some retcons. This might happen too common with how they make some small contact but I don't have such proof as well you don't so in other word we'll never know and it all comes down to speculatio

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Oh so this is your conclusion? So you starting this chain of arguments means it's just pointless if this is the result.
Thanks for wasting thread bytes.

Well if you want to run away with your tail between your leg that is..

Not really, these kind of arguments goes in circles. However if you wanna waste both our times, then be my guest.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Well, you're the bigger fool for thinking this filler is canon. Go ahead make a thread trying to claim this filler is canon. Maybe someone will talk some sense into you.

Why are you walking around circle. I already stated before that it can hypothesis that some fillers can be semi-canon and I'm not gonna make thread and waste my time ofc if I don't have anything to back me up aside some small evidences from the interview . There you go I said it.

I was expressing irritation that there's going to be more than a month of filler. We had like like one or two episodes of canon? at this rate, i wont be surprised if the anime ends in two years....

I understand, if we never got this infinite filleryomi crap and the fillers before, it would never be a problem, however I digress Kaguya still such under develop character and fillers was needed in my opinion.

Kishimoto has never been involved with the shippuden anime. Wouldn't you think this would be highlighted or mentioned that kishimoto the creator of the friggin manga. Is going to have a role in making this crude?
That would attract more viewers to watch the damn anime, if that were the case. don't you think?

I told you before, SP might get their idea from kishi in his public affair and his work he had done before they do their own shit so no it wouldn't create such big commotion if it was done by SP since they have every right. Again Kishi expressed in one of his interview that his war arc was rushed and he leaved some room where the anime team can make some fillers out of it.

If the anime really screwed everything, Kishi would've sued them, just like what happens when ishida makes complaint with fillers on Tokyo Ghoul. We never heard Kishi complaining so he's fine with all the fillers presumably.

This is the friggin anime. There has never been an arc in the anime that has been confirmed canon ever, why start now so late in the game?
inb4 " uh duh cos it kaguya"
That doesn't mean jack squat.

Only reason why we heard such big ruckus announcement from Kishi makes "approval" was because it was done by another outsource form of media or by author who does Itachi Shiden or Hiden novels ideas that holds no connection to SP who have the right in the possession of Kishi . In most case scenario, you pitched in your idea, gets approved by Kishi which allows you to have the right to be animated by SP.

No proof? Concession accepted.

It was proven in the interview, you can check all the interview if you want unless perhaps you don't want to waste your time or could it be you're too scared to face the truth?

I did but that really didn't make any sense. Why in the hell would hashirama leave behind a wood style scroll? When has yamato ever been hinted to have trained or came from the foundation? I don't recall that from the manga at all.

I thought it was obvious that it was heavenly implied that Yamato was a Root member especially when he used to be conducted experiment from Orochimaru who works for Danzo... We don't know anything about hashirmama scroll that's why it can be easily be premises.
Only things that makes it semi-canon was stuff that was confirmed but never never showed in the manga. For example, Shisui vs Danzo or when AO stood no chance against Shisui. Kakashi being leader as anbu and as such.

Thanks for draining me of hope, are all of you hyuga fans like that? Well, i would be pissed too, if that author threw away my background clan's potential down the toilet.

Well well, changing subject now are we? Very pessimistic of you to resort to slandering my name. I'm just a genuine Naruto fans who thought what was best for the series, this topic has nothing to do with the Hyuga, although I'm not really a big fan as I used to, what really matters right now is to never to look back to the past and always look for the future. Kaguya arc is what we should be anticipating.

Well, if you really think that then okay, sure.

ofc it's okay, if you're a true fan of this series that is.

Prepare for disappointment then.

I doubt it, some fillers when it comes to any connection with canon material, they usually do it really good like Itachi *******, kakashi anbu so it hardly disappoints me even though I've lowered my expectation.

What canon material isn't up to you or anyone but the creator. Kishi has the final say even if it's trash.

You don't get it. People choose which fillers to be canon in a sense that would be believable and their interest for their time to watch the series but when we look at the reality, its up to the creator to decide and of course its arguable whether Kishi doesn't mind it.
Kishi never mention anything negative about the anime when it pertains to the fillers. I've already explained above in detail.

You actually sticked to watching this crude the entire year? Oh man, and here i thought i wasted my time on this site.

Wasted 20 min once every week which to the nutshell I enjoyed some of it so really its nothing compare to people who invested time on NB for hours. I feel like I wasted more time on NB than watching a single episode every weekly.





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Oh so this is your conclusion? So you starting this chain of arguments means it's just pointless if this is the result.
Thanks for wasting thread bytes.

Oh well thats too bad if I waste your time on NB if you can't come up with better conclusion, there will always be chain in this kind of argument and yet you insisted on doing so .

Not really, these kind of arguments goes in circles. However if you wanna waste both our times, then be my guest.

Well it looks like I lured you into a bait. Its your call.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Why are you walking around circle. I already stated before that it can hypothesis that some fillers can be semi-canon and I'm not gonna make thread and waste my time ofc if I don't have anything to back me up aside some small evidences from the interview . There you go I said it.

So you give up then?

I understand, if we never got this infinite filleryomi crap and the fillers before, it would never be a problem, however I digress Kaguya still such under develop character and fillers was needed in my opinion.

There's so many characters that are undeveloped, she's not the only one.

I told you before, SP might get their idea from kishi in his public affair and his work he had done before they do their own shit so no it wouldn't create such big commotion if it was done by SP since they have every right. Again Kishi expressed in one of his interview that his war arc was rushed and he leaved some room where the anime team can make some fillers out of it.

Interview that you can't provide proof of?

If the anime really screwed everything, Kishi would've sued them, just like what happens when ishida makes complaint with fillers on Tokyo Ghoul. We never heard Kishi complaining so he's fine with all the fillers presumably.

I never claimed they screwed up anything, null point.

Only reason why we heard such big ruckus announcement from Kishi makes "approval" was because it was done by another outsource form of media or by author who does Itachi Shiden or Hiden novels ideas that holds no connection to SP who have the right in the possession of Kishi . In most case scenario, you pitched in your idea, gets approved by Kishi which allows you to have the right to be animated by SP.

It was proven in the interview, you can check all the interview if you want unless perhaps you don't want to waste your time or could it be you're too scared to face the truth?

lol no, you're the one who made the claim. you provide the evidence, it makes no sense for your opponent to search up your claim. either post it or drop this point.

I thought it was obvious that it was heavenly implied that Yamato was a Root member especially when he used to be conducted experiment from Orochimaru who works for Danzo... We don't know anything about hashirmama scroll that's why it can be easily be premises.

Orochimaru did this for his own goals, not for danzo.

Only things that makes it semi-canon was stuff that was confirmed but never never showed in the manga. For example, Shisui vs Danzo or when AO stood no chance against Shisui. Kakashi being leader as anbu and as such.

Not really, the naruto game explained shisui vs danzo. which was different than the anime, what makes the anime more canon? both were obviously made from different teams.

Well well, changing subject now are we? Very pessimistic of you to resort to slandering my name. I'm just a genuine Naruto fans who thought what was best for the series, this topic has nothing to do with the Hyuga, although I'm not really a big fan as I used to, what really matters right now is to never to look back to the past and always look for the future. Kaguya arc is what we should be anticipating.

Yeah, you go do that.

I doubt it, some fillers when it comes to any connection with canon material, they usually do it really good like Itachi *******, kakashi anbu so it hardly disappoints me even though I've lowered my expectation.

Now, you're being smart.

You don't get it. People choose which fillers to be canon in a sense that would be believable and their interest for their time to watch the series but when we look at the reality, its up to the creator to decide and of course its arguable whether Kishi doesn't mind it.
Kishi never mention anything negative about the anime when it pertains to the fillers. I've already explained above in detail.

Ofc, kishi never said anything bad. SP never screwed up the canon storyline.

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Oh well thats too bad if I waste your time on NB if you can't come up with better conclusion, there will always be chain in this kind of argument and yet you insisted on doing so .

You already said this is speculation. You pretty much ended your own argument point on that so there's really nothing more to add to it.

Well it looks like I lured you into a bait. Its your call.

If you continue doing this, i'll make sure your defeat is more pathetic than Neji getting killed by a toothpick.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

So you give up then?

Interview that you can't provide proof of?

Yea I give up in providing some proof cause that would be wasting my time looking for one.

There's so many characters that are undeveloped, she's not the only one.

True but you forgot that we're talking about a Final villain that holds more essential to the story. Every main villains can either make or break the series. Madara is the only reason why this War arc was worth watching, however the bad over-weighs the good considering the lackluster villain we've had that is Obito and Kaguya ruined the series.

lol no, you're the one who made the claim. you provide the evidence, it makes no sense for your opponent to search up your claim. either post it or drop this point.

Too lazy so I'm just going to drop it. NB isn't much worth of my time when I've got other better things to do.

Orochimaru did this for his own goals, not for danzo.

ofc, but it doesnt change the fact that he was working with danzo only to keep himself at bay.

Not really, the naruto game explained shisui vs danzo. which was different than the anime, what makes the anime more canon? both were obviously made from different teams.

Bro it's just a game, it's not suppossed to be treated as an anime plus it has more retcon than the anime. Shisui never has susanoo and it was never stated as such. The anime is more believable.

You already said this is speculation. You pretty much ended your own argument point on that so there's really nothing more to add to it.

There's really nothing to add to it when we've come full circle so yes at this point it all comes down to speculation.

If you continue doing this, i'll make sure your defeat is more pathetic than Neji getting killed by a toothpick.

Did I hit your nerve or something? You sound mad so am I supposed to cry?? Cmon we have nice friendly conversation up until this point... I thought I was being too generous so What gives??