[Discussion] Another example of European beauty standards effecting people

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The topic is "another example of European beauty standards affecting people." So I was discussing the example.

But OP is otherwise true.
And the example clearly displayed what I'm talking about. There is no logical reason why a darker woman witth a bigger nose one day just said. Hmm I want to have white skin, blonde hair and a skinner nose. And there is no type of self image issue. I'm not going to argue that anymore. It is self explanatory. Like I said again no one wants to be dark. Anyways it doesn't just effect people with wanting to look like that
 
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Well that's what she thinks. Having multiple plastic surgeries don't help
That's sad.
I'll admit, the standards of "beauty" of the western world, not only Europe, are pretty much crap. We just have to take a look on the model-industry with all it's morbid walking sticks, called "girls", covered in tons of make-up.
 

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I was going to make the same thread,but you beat me to it.
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India and bollywood is full of racists and low casts are still discriminated by the government.
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Let Lil Kim do what she wants. It's her right to do whatever she wants with her body and appearance.
She is a celebrity and a lot of black look up to her to be a role model.

A pity that some people are foolish enough to hate their looks.

As long as one isn't burnt, scarred or otherwise deformed there is no need to change your appearance. This is mostly low self esteem, caused by primitive cultures and beliefs.

Of course that's just my opinion, if people want to change their looks then I can't and won't stop them, it is their life.
Its not caused by primitive cultures and beliefs but brainwashed through advertisements of cosmetic industry.
 

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Its not caused by primitive cultures and beliefs but brainwashed through advertisements of cosmetic industry.
Culture is part of it. The Indian cast system for example has been in place long before media advertisement and the cosmetic industry came into being.

To put it simply it is the primitive cultures and beliefs that made the industries behave in such a manner.
 

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Culture is part of it. The Indian cast system for example has been in place long before media advertisement and the cosmetic industry came into being.

To put it simply it is the primitive cultures and beliefs that made the industries behave in such a manner.

What has caste system to do with it? Exactly how much do you even understand it?
It had tons of problems but it's not related with OP.

And no it's not primitive cultures that made this industry- Fair and Lovely is a product of Uniliver which is an Ango-Dutch company. And of course the colonial heritage of centuries is hard to get out of the system.

Funny part is that they did use their Indian subsidiary to get the the product patented back in 71 and sell this product all over the world and many think it's Indian product. India had barely gotten independence in 1947 - I doubt the research for the content of this product was done here. (Similarly Pond's too is a Unilever product though patented in USA.)

It's ads are always criticized for promoting fair as symbol of confidence and beauty while downgrading darker skin since 1971. I suppose the idea would bring more criticism if they used the main company for their patent.


BTW- there is a difference between wanting to look good and wanting to look white/European.

We don't get just tan here- when you are out in the noon in places like Allahabad temperature rises above 45 degree C and the hot winds called Lu would burn you outright. It makes skin dull not just dark. And no, most Indians do not use things like sunscreen lotions or let alone make up. So some basic skin care is necessary. The products like 'Fair and Lovely' take advantage of that too along with promoting the negative idea.
 
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What has caste system to do with it? Exactly how much do you even understand it?
It had tons of problems but it's not related with OP.

And no it's not primitive cultures that made this industry- Fair and Lovely is a product of Uniliver which is an Ango-Dutch company.

Funny part is that they did use their Indian subsidiary to get the the product patented back in 71 and sell this product all over the world. India had barely gotten independence in 1947 - I doubt the research for the content of this product was done here.

It's ads are always criticized for promoting fair as symbol of confidence and beauty while downgrading darker skin. I suppose the idea would bring more criticism if they used the main company for their patent.

BTW- there is a difference between wanting to look good and wanting to look white/European.

We don't get just tan here- when you are out in the noon in places like Allahabad temperature rises above 48 degree C and the hot winds called Lu would burn it outright. It makes skin dull not just dark. And no, most Indians do not use things like sunscreen lotions or let alone make up. So some basic skin care is necessary. The products like 'Fair and Lovely' take advantage of that too along with promoting the negative idea.

And of course the colonial heritage of centuries is hard to get out of the system.
If you think I am mistaken, then please correct me. Are you saying the caste system has nothing to do with the perceptions of beauty in India?

The company being Anglo dutch doesn't stop the ideas from coming from primitive backgrounds. The Europeans not unlike the one mentioned in the OP believe that the appearance mostly associated with those of European decent looks the best and other types of appearance are inferior. These companies are run by humans, they aren't exempt from having similar if not the same beliefs other people have.

Yes there is a difference from wanting to look good and wanting to look European, but there exists a number of people who do associate beauty with European features as well as those who assume those beautiful features only exist in Europeans

Indeed colonialism has taken its toll
 

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If you think I am mistaken, then please correct me. Are you saying the caste system has nothing to do with the perceptions of beauty in India?
Caste system was based on profession not on beauty standards, Mr. So yes. They were more like professional guilds.

And primitive cultures do not look down upon themselves. It's always the result of looking at oneself from someone's else' POV and relatively modern post colonial issue.
 
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Caste system was based on profession not on beauty standards, Mr. So yes. They were more like professional guilds.

And primitive cultures do not look down upon themselves. It's always the result of looking at oneself from someone's else' POV and relatively modern post colonial issue.
I didn't ask whether it was based on beauty rather whether the system affected what people perceive beauty to be in India(perhaps I should have been clearer). Did those who came from lower caste not look up to those from higher castes?

For the past few centuries those of European decent have remained the most developed people in the world(in terms of living standards and world influence) it isn't surprising that a sizable number of people try to emulate them, even their appearance.

Could the same thing not be said for India and its caste system?
 
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The funny thing is... That everyone here saying 'LOVE URSELF PLS LOL' are the same ones that fap over white, Hispanic, and Asian girls in those 'most attractive race of women' threads while putting black women (who this shit affects the most) down
 

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This shows insecurity more than anything to me. Not that beauty standards don't exist but it's not really so black and white of what beauty standards are, that it should be affecting her this badly in 2016. The problem is insecurity, she feels inferior for whatever reason and needs counseling. Just like how she use to be a known ho when she was in the limelight, all leads back to insecurity.
 
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