Naruto has no defense for IT, I'm sorry Naruto fans :'(

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This coming from the greatest Sasuke fap boy. And bee survived by using the chakra of Gyuki's previously severed tail..that doesn't make him a perfect jin.
Okay Naruto fapboy :lmao: Can you see you guys are getting roasted. No one believes your nonsense besides you handful of shadowclones
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Uhmm yeah it does. bijuu chakra can be split and the bijuu consciousness will remain with their host . Naruto is a perfect example of that.
 

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Holy shit four pages when the title specifically states that he doesn't have a counter, even though Kishimoto made Sasuke save him because he didn't have a counter.

Come on guys.
 

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Yes it certainly does or else Bee would have died instantly. Naruto only needs a bit of bijuu to communicate with them and It's rightfully to assume Bee needs that as well seeing he is Hachibi original owner. Jiraya not only sucks at genjutsu but apparently breaking out of one as well. Because even after teaching Naruto a method ITachi caught him in a genjutsu and Narutos chakra is far greater than ITachis. Juubi Jins with far superior chakra cast IT so Naruto is clearly outmatched here.
Lol...No it does not, gyuki's entire consciosness was sucked in by Madara leaving obly a part of his chakra with bee, go read the manga again before coming up with such stupid claims. Well yes Jiraiya's technique didn't work but we're talking about perfect jin and they don't break genjutsu the way jiraiya taught. Sakura was able to dispel Itachi's genjutsu by simply touching Naruto, what makes you think the biju inside the jin can't do the same. So no matter whoever cast it if you can disrupt the affected's chakra by some other chakra genjutsu can be broken except the KA maybe.
 

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Lol...No it does not, gyuki's entire consciosness was sucked in by Madara leaving obly a part of his chakra with bee, go read the manga again before coming up with such stupid claims. Well yes Jiraiya's technique didn't work but we're talking about perfect jin and they don't break genjutsu the way jiraiya taught. Sakura was able to dispel Itachi's genjutsu by simply touching Naruto, what makes you think the biju inside the jin can't do the same. So no matter whoever cast it if you can disrupt the affected's chakra by some other chakra genjutsu can be broken except the KA maybe.
Please tell me more about how Perfect Jins surive after being extracted without their bijuu :bdpf:
 

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Okay Naruto fapboy :lmao: Can you see you guys are getting roasted. No one believes your nonsense besides you handful of shadowclones
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Uhmm yeah it does. bijuu chakra can be split and the bijuu consciousness will remain with their host . Naruto is a perfect example of that.
Go read the manga again son.

Please tell me more about how Perfect Jins surive after being extracted without their bijuu :bdpf:
I already did, not about to repeat again.
 

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Well here let me leave you a piece of the manga and not your fanfiction.

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There are several more examples:bdpf: Care to share more of your fanfic with me.
As I said its pointless to argue with an ignorant fanboy. Still you posted those panels, so I would repeat again read my previous post and if you have even a little intelligence you'll know your point has already been answered before. And I am done with you. Can't educate another fapboy.
 

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As I said its pointless to argue with an ignorant fanboy. Still you posted those panels, so I would repeat again read my previous post and if you have even a little intelligence you'll know your point has already been answered before. And I am done with you. Can't educate another fapboy.
Yes I suppose I can't have an argument with someone who constantly neglects manga facts and takes their assumptions over events in the manga :flakez:

You say Bee survived without his bijuu for instance yet a jin is suppose to die without their bijuu. So basically you're just making stuff up because you have no argument.

I would educate you more if you'd like but it seems you have your hands full on Narutos imaginary penis.
 

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Yes I suppose I can't have an argument with someone who constantly neglects manga facts and takes their assumptions over events in the manga :flakez: I would educate you more if you'd like but it seems you have your hands full on Narutos imaginary penis.
Whatever man SB's butthurt is always obvious. We're done for now..maybe next time.
 

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Lol...No it does not, gyuki's entire consciosness was sucked in by Madara leaving obly a part of his chakra with bee, go read the manga again before coming up with such stupid claims. Well yes Jiraiya's technique didn't work but we're talking about perfect jin and they don't break genjutsu the way jiraiya taught. Sakura was able to dispel Itachi's genjutsu by simply touching Naruto, what makes you think the biju inside the jin can't do the same. So no matter whoever cast it if you can disrupt the affected's chakra by some other chakra genjutsu can be broken except the KA maybe.
Bijuu's conciousness can be split. Naruto himself can talk to the bijuu while Madara has them sucked up but Bee can't? You're making no sense you're saying that method of genjutsu breaking works while failing to acknowledge Sasukes knows all about that method. Yet you know more than the characters themselves and the writer? You're full of shit kid.
 

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Whatever man SB's butthurt is always obvious. We're done for now..maybe next time.
I'm butthurt? However you're the one running away from my arguments because they completely shat on yours and actually use facts from the manga and not something I made up.


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Well here let me leave you a piece of the manga and not your fanfiction.

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There are several more examples:bdpf: Care to share more of your fanfic with me.
You completely destroyed his post :lmao: Watching this guy crash & burn is a pleasure.
 

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You should be telling yourself that. What you've written is a bunch of excuses while I'm posting how the story actually went. With Sasukes Rinnegan protecting NAruto not his tailed beasts friends offering any kind of protection at all.
You need to wake up,you don’t own Naruto thus you can’t change it to suit you're thinking.
 

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Currently there is no manga explanations or actual factual statements on how Naruto escapes, survives or utilizes a capable defense for Infinte Tsukuyomi outside of fan-fiction. I've must have read the chapter and the following ones after that a dozen times and Naruto being able to escape IT just doesn't make any sense. Lets look at what happens.


In this scan Madara activates IT and basically puts the entire world under his control.
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After getting saved by Sasuke, Naruto senses that his girlfriend gets trapped and wishes to save her.

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Sasuke saves him again by stopping Naruto from making impulsive actions. Naruto's clones were suppose to be even busy fighting Madaras limbos, but I guess they were defeated as well.
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Naruto using his better judgement stays under the protection of Sasukes Rinnegan until it's safe to move.
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Conclusion: Yes it hurts the pride of Kage bunshins everywhere and Naruto can't actually do everything boo hoo. The fact of the matter is he really has no way of fending off powerful genjutsus of this magnitude in terms of canon and hypothetical rsm abilities. Even in the Last movie he got owned by Toneris little genjutsu.



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You are wrong. There is no evidence to support Naruto being unable counter IT.

1- Sasuke doesn't know Naruto's ability (RSM). He just assumed Naruto couldn't counter IT. Sasuke though he could cancel IT with just the rinnegan.

2 - You claimed that Naruto clones were defeated by the limbo clones, yet Naruto had no knowledge of that. If Naruto's clones were defeated he would have known they were defeated. What happened to them? Simple, they fought the limbo clones until the limbo clones had to return to Madara. Sasuke explained to us that Madara's limbo clone can only stay away from his body for a short amount of time before they have to return to the body - to

After the limbo clones returned to Madara, Naruto did the same thing he always does with is clones after they complete their assignment and that is end the jutsu. I have always found that to be dumb and a waste of chakra/clone, but that is the way Kishi has always handled Naruto. Then Madara recreated his limbo clones and they surrounded Susanoo.

If Naruto's clones was defeated by IT then Naruto would have known that. Since Naruto had no knowledge his clones being defeated that means they weren't defeated.

3 - Naruto did stay in susanoo, but that was because Sasuke was already countering IT.

4 - I find it very interesting that people believe Naruto himself can't counter IT even though he possess half the power to cancel the jutsu just like Sasuke.

5 - Naruto was never defeated by a genjutsu "The Last". Naruto just never tried to defeat it. Why, because he was busy using that opportunity to learn about Hinata's feelings.

It was a genjutsu trap designed to place everyone that activated the trap in a dream like state showing them their past. Yet, Naruto was able to leave his dream and enter Hinata's dream. Then he freely move throughout her dream. The genjutsu was never designed to work that way. That proves Naruto was able to manipulate the genjutsu to his will.
 
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