"Sasuke Was Nerf So Bad" Quote

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Naruto's every powerup dwarfs Sasuke's. Naruto has been given the advantage at every turn, yet Sasuke came out on top until the end of the manga, where he still tied.

Because Naruto's abilities are so much greater than Sasuke's it's just that much more impressive that Sasuke keeps up.

Actually the exact opposite of what happened:
1.Sharingan can take control of bijuu under genjutsu.
2.Curse mark was senju DNA so sasuke already taken another clans power, the same clan that could learn woodstyle and has the chains like karin and kushina has to control bijuu, so a clan that had two of the ways to conrtrol bijuu.
MS has even stronger genjutsu abilities for bijuu and he has the potential izanani or izanagi.
3. EMS now he can do all these abilities without going blind and was handed a hacked jutsu that wherever you look you can set an eternal fire (amaterasu) that only the 8 tails could avoid with a special kkg from his tailed beast(naruto could probably do this now that he has all bijuu chakra but notat this point in the story)
4. Rinnegan is THE DIRECT ADVANTAGE OF ALL BIJUU AND JINCHURIKI, with multiple hacked kkg jutsu such as chibaku,preta,pull/push ect. That potenially destroy bijuu/jinchuriki opponents if used wisely (which he didnt because he still could beat naruto).
Now tell me how narutos power ups dwarfs sasukes?

OT: sasuke has direct advantage and still lost
 

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Sasuke's strongest is a neft itself. Sasuke was nerfed the entire manga by being given the shit end of the stick on every occasion.

Seems like a very easy statement to say if you biasedly cherry-pick. Seems like being given a power that can instantly take control of every Tailed Beast (the new powerup of Naruto) in a second without any skill is just one quick example off the top of my head of him being given 'the shit end of the stick'.
 

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You didn't think your post through and now your making excuses and backtracking.

Just hold your L.

Excuse me? I post casually as I like thank you, nobody is backtracking it's called a conversation dickweed. I said there would be no 'new' arguments coming from me bc i'm not a die-hard SasuNaru fan like yourselves. Coming from a place of non-bias I just want somebody to maturely explain how and why they think Sasuke could possibly have been 'nerfed' in that final fight. No Uchiha has ever been nerfed in this series.

I know people are clearly daring to chastise your precious Sausage but drop the hostility bc it makes you look embarrassing :')
 

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Seems like a very easy statement to say if you biasedly cherry-pick. Seems like being given a power that can instantly take control of every Tailed Beast (the new powerup of Naruto) in a second without any skill is just one quick example off the top of my head of him being given 'the shit end of the stick'.

Sasuke took them out of the battle, and actually used more chakra just to prevent Naruto from gaining another powerup.

I don't consider wasting chakra on 9 Bijuu genjutsus and 9 Chibaku Tenseis to prevent a 10 vs 1 to be an advantage. But to each his own.

That point might be valid if he used the 9 Bijuu to fight, or if this "powerup" wasn't outclassed by a powerup Naruto gained 3 abilities ago. The fact that all the chakra Sasuke took was matched by Sage Mode and essentially BM is a joke aimed at Sasuke.
 
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You're right.

Universal comprehension of chakra.
9 Tailed beast's support.
The Kyuubi (who already effortlessly defeated 7 other Bijuu at once).
Bodily buffs.
Reactionary buffs.
Speed buffs.
Ninjutsu buffs.
And Gudoudamas.

Totally worse off than if he just had,

Deva Path.
Preta Path for the last 30 seconds of the fight.
Small portions of the Bijuu's chakras.


There has never been a powerup Naruto received that was worse than Sasuke's. And Naruto has never lost a powerup like Sasuke, and is actually able to combine his powerups while Sasuke cannot. Naruto even got 3 powerups before Sasuke got 1... It's not even a contest.

You need to reread the manga cause no facts here
 

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Excuse me? I post casually as I like thank you, nobody is backtracking it's called a conversation dickweed. I know people are clearly daring to chastise your precious Sausage but drop the hostility bc it makes you look embarrassing :')
Backtracking
I'm not a Naruto fanboy so i'm really not gonna make any new arguments
The rest of your post was kind of like your original, meaningless spam.
 

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He doesn't have that black lightning and not even full Rinnegan capabilities! But he isn't that nerfed imo
 

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It hard to judge VOTE 2 fight.

- Sasuke didn't have mastery of Rinnegan
- Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke
 

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It hard to judge VOTE 2 fight.

- Sasuke didn't have mastery of Rinnegan
- Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke

I think it could be argued that Sasuke didn't want to kill Naruto either, the same as the VoTE 1 fight. But that's another thread.
 

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Sasuke took them out of the battle, and actually used more chakra just to prevent Naruto from gaining another powerup.

I don't consider wasting chakra on 9 Bijuu genjutsus and 9 Chibaku Tenseis to prevent a 10 vs 1 to be an advantage. But to each his own.

That point might be valid if he used the 9 Bijuu to fight, or if this "powerup" wasn't outclassed by a powerup Naruto gained 3 abilities ago. The fact that all the chakra Sasuke took was matched by Sage Mode and essentially BM is a joke aimed at Sasuke.

Okay so if we're going to act as if The Bijuu are a separate power-up from Rikudou Mode (they aren't) then I can JUST as easily say that Rinnegan techs that disabled these Bijuu are a seperate power-up from Perfect Susanoo (it isn't)

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See how easy a little bit of biased phrasing is to pull off? Now i'm going to stop posting bc i'm coming across as a Naruto fan and I have alcohol to drink. Can somebody maturely explain in detail multiple points as to how they believe Sasuke was nerfed. I'll be genuinely grateful :')

Please try and take into consideration:


-Your own Bias

-'Plot' is not sufficient bc that's subjective. If you're a Sasuke fan your idea of how the 'plot' should've represented him is different.

-Nerfs are only nerfs if actually situationally established by the writer (ItachiVSKabuto) (TsunadeVSKabuto) otherwise it's fair game.

-This was Naruto's 4th opponent in a row and had been fighting a war beforehand without sleep/rest.
-Naruto did not fight with murderous intent. Whilst Sasuke's entire goal cannot be put into action without murdering the 5 Kage & sole Jinchuuriki.

-Sasuke stole the chakra of the Tailed Beasts. (It is not stated how much but enough to create a new form of Susanoo?! so...)

-Their clash was a normal rasengan and a Kagutsuchi infused chidori, creating the same result as they both lose an arm.

Now, you guys go. I genuinely wanna be convinced.
 
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Backtracking

The rest of your post was kind of like your original, meaningless spam.

Sorry is this the part where i'm meant to say you sound really cool? Because that snobbish, dismissive tone leads me to believe you're an obnoxious Sasuke fan. Invalidating your opinion.

How can somebody backtrack if they're not even engaged in the debate? I have said repeatedly I feel neither way. Think about the big boy words you use before you use them.
 

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Okay so if we're going to act as if The Bijuu are a separate power-up from Rikudou Mode (they aren't) then I can JUST as easily say that Rinnegan techs that disabled these Bijuu are a seperate power-up from Perfect Susanoo (it isn't)

See how easy a little bit of biased phrasing is to pull off? Now i'm going to stop posting bc i'm coming across as a Naruto fan and I have alcohol to drink. Can somebody maturely explain in detail multiple points as to how they believe Sasuke was nerfed. I'll be genuinely grateful :')

Please try and take into consideration:

-Your own Bias

-'Plot' is not sufficient bc that's subjective. If you're a Sasuke fan your idea of how the 'plot' should've represented him is different.

-Nerfs are only nerfs if actually situationally established by the writer (ItachiVSKabuto) (TsunadeVSKabuto) otherwise it's fair game.

-This was Naruto's 4th opponent in a row and had been fighting a war beforehand without sleep/rest.
-Naruto did not fight with murderous intent. Whilst Sasuke's entire goal cannot be put into action without murdering the 5 Kage & sole Jinchuuriki.

-Sasuke stole the chakra of the Tailed Beasts. (It is not stated how much but enough to create a new form of Susanoo?! so...)

-Their clash was a normal rasengan and a Kagutsuchi infused chidori, creating the same result as they both lose an arm.

Now, you guys go. I genuinely wanna be convinced.

I didn't read most of this because your first sentence is flawed.

Naruto has never been the Jinchuriki of all 9 full Bijuu. Naruto has only ever had Kurama and a small portion of the other 8 Bijuu. So preventing 9 fully formed Bijuu from helping Naruto is preventing a new powerup entirely.

RSM has never taken the other 50% of Kurama, and the other ~90% of the other 8 Bijuu into account.

But if you want to give them to Naruto, you're still proving me correct, as that means Naruto was given 9 Full Bijuu while Sasuke was given maybe 1/3 of the Rinnegan.

So which nerf would you rather say Sasuke had? Nerfed chakra to prevent a 5th powerup in 3 days, or Nerfed power by receiving a partial powerup while Naruto gained 9?
 
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I think it could be argued that Sasuke didn't want to kill Naruto either, the same as the VoTE 1 fight. But that's another thread.

You can't really say for sure. However, VOTE 1, yeah, I agree. Also, apparently, Curse Mark/Sharingan = 1 tail Kyuubi cloak.
 

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Sasuke was nerfed in his battle with Naruto. He could have swapped his Chidori with Naruto's brain.
 

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Sasuke arsenal is just too huge for anyone to handle.
 

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Sorry is this the part where i'm meant to say you sound really cool? Because that snobbish, dismissive tone leads me to believe you're an obnoxious Sasuke fan. Invalidating your opinion.

How can somebody backtrack if they're not even engaged in the debate? I have said repeatedly I feel neither way. Think about the big boy words you use before you use them.
The irony is you're doing exactly what you accuse me of. You even dismissed my opinion (nice job there)

6+ posts in this thread but you're not really engaged right. I might have taken that claim a little more seriously if it wasn't a little late to claim you don't have an opinion.
Glad somebody on this thread has basic reading comprehension.

Honestly I take it you're not a psycho Naruto/Sasuke bias fanboy either? This is literally what happened. Naruto was in the worst situation.
Keep backtracking though. :lol
 
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