pre jin hagormo vs team 7

[isonworth18]

location: momoshikis planet
intent:kill
SOM: bloodlusted
intel: pre jin hagoromo knows how kamui works and knows naruto and sasuke have rinnegan and rsm respectively
restrictions:nature energy, the bijuu

scanerio 2:
naruto has nature energy and ashura avatar, while sasuke has bijuu ps


who wins this fight had it happened

 

[BlacLord™]

Why does he need to know how Kamui works?

Anyway, we don't Pre-Jin Hagger's power. Only that he and his brother defeated the Juubi between them.

 

[KidGamer65]

Team 7 wins S2, loses S1.

 

[NarutoX28]

Given their performance against Kaguya, I think the team wins both scenarios.

 

[ARGUS]

Hagoromo wins S1, loses S2

 

[TRE MERCER]

Pre Jin Hagoromo is hyped to be on the same tier as Vote2 Sasuke n Naruto.
So together that shit on him.

 

[Unorthodox]

Team 7 wins S2, loses S1.

Hagoromo wins S1, loses S2

This same team > Kaguya who you fools think is a tier above jj hagoromo but they lose to Base Hagoromo?

Hagoromo is overrated Vote Sasuke or Naruto solos him without juubi

 

[Kunihi]

The team wins both scenarios

 

[NarutoX28]

This same team > Kaguya who you fools think is a tier above jj hagoromo but they lose to Base Hagoromo?

This is honestly my thought process.

Kaguya was hyped up to be above at least Hagoromo (Pre-Jin). Kaguya that Naruto and Sasuke faced was a stronger incarnation due to possessing the Juubi's full power(Having the Shinju in addition to her own power) and the duo who were less experienced than their VoTE counterparts managed to almost seal Kaguya. Hell, RSM Naruto alone managed to pressure Kaguya.

Seems to me that both as a team are at least above Pre-Jin Hagoromo.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Debaters in here should do better and dont feed this kind of thread bcus it was pointless, Wat is going on here?

 

[KCMNaruto]

This same team > Kaguya who you fools think is a tier above jj hagoromo but they lose to Base Hagoromo?

Hagoromo is overrated Vote Sasuke or Naruto solos him without juubi

The hole in your logic is that Kaguya was far behind her prime power or even close to it as she was in aka prime Juubi against Hagoromo and Hamura.

JJ Hagoromo would beats them and could be even stomp.

This is honestly my thought process.

Kaguya was hyped up to be above at least Hagoromo (Pre-Jin). Kaguya that Naruto and Sasuke faced was a stronger incarnation due to possessing the Juubi's full power(Having the Shinju in addition to her own power) and the duo who were less experienced than their VoTE counterparts managed to almost seal Kaguya. Hell, RSM Naruto alone managed to pressure Kaguya.

Seems to me that both as a team are at least above Pre-Jin Hagoromo.

Correct with Kaguya being at least above well not even Pre-Jin Hagoromo but also Post Jin Hagoromo.

Actually Prime Juubi > any manga version of Kaguya.

Prime Kaguya >Post birth Kaguya > JJ Hagoromo ~ (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo >= Powered up Kaguya(end of battle) > (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE/ (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo ~ Vote 2 Naruto with NE & Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo >(Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke ~ Kaguya ~ Post Jin Hagoromo> (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto/(Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke >Vote 2 RSM Naruto with NE/Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo & >= Kaguya arc Naruto & Sasuke >Pre Jin Hagoromo > RSM Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke

I am not sure where I would place Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke but it would be just my guess.
Just to note Naruto and Sasuke would be at their best, It means no one is rusty and Naruto use all bijuu chakra at top of full Kurama as RSM.

 

[KidGamer65]

This same team > Kaguya who you fools think is a tier above jj hagoromo but they lose to Base Hagoromo?

Hagoromo is overrated Vote Sasuke or Naruto solos him without juubi

Lol shut up for once. :lol So annoying. This same team isn't stronger than Kaguya. Not sure how many times someone has to repeat this to your retarded ass. The only reason they can win is because they can seal her, not overpower her. They can't seal Hagoromo or overpower him so they die. Take away the seals and Kaguya would molest them.

 

[Ambivalence]

Team 7 wins S2, loses S1.

Why? 1R JJ Madara was said to ''approach" non-JJ Hagoromo's power. So DR JJ Madara is at least around that same level. Then I remember you saying Adult Naruto or Sasuke can individually overpower that same Madara (not 3-eyed, no IT chakra), they just can't kill him or win without the seals. So how do they lose together, even without AA and BPS, or did you change your mind about N/S vs DR Madara?

EDIT: Oh, these are Teen Naruto and Sasuke. Well, regardless, I still don't see how they lose together since the difference between them and their adult versions isn't as big as having one more Rikudou character as a teammate.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why? 1R JJ Madara was said to ''approach" non-JJ Hagoromo's power. So DR JJ Madara is at least around that same level. Then I remember you saying Adult Naruto or Sasuke can individually overpower that same Madara (not 3-eyed, no IT chakra), they just can't kill him or win without the seals. So how do they lose together, even without AA and BPS?

This isn't Adult Naruto or Adult Sasuke. Adult Naruto has AA and Sasuke equals him. These two lack those power ups so they are nowhere near the level of their adult selves in this scenario.

 

[Ambivalence]

So Adult Naruto/Sasuke has more of a chance to win against Hagoromo alone than Teen Naruto and Sasuke together just because of AA/Sasuke's unknown equivalent?

 

[KidGamer65]

So Adult Naruto/Sasuke has more of a chance to win against Hagoromo alone than Teen Naruto and Sasuke together just because of AA/Sasuke's unknown equivalent?

Yup. Ashura Avatar Naruto is on a completely different level to regular Naruto and adding Sasuke's support doesn't even come close to making that up. Do you think regular Naruto and Sasuke are going to fight Sasuke or Naruto w/ their VoTE power ups individually (they are working together) and win? I hope not.

 

[Ambivalence]

Theoretically, wouldn't a CST from Sasuke to weaken the Dual RS or Indra's arrow followed by a Rikudou Iso Susano'o at least keep Naruto and Sasuke alive? If it does, that individual Naruto/Sasuke is toast.

 

[KidGamer65]

Theoretically, wouldn't a CST from Sasuke to weaken the Dual RS or Indra's arrow followed by a Rikudou Iso Susano'o at least keep Naruto and Sasuke alive?

-There's no proof Sasuke's Shinra tensei would reach that level. It'd be hard enough to argue that for Madara who's chakra dwarfs Sasuke's in size.

-Even if it did unless the technique is completely destroyed it blows up and they still die.

And Sasuke's moves are all powered up due to the Bijuu chakra in his Susanoo. He doesn't need Indra's Arrow to defeat them both.

 

[Ambivalence]

:lol Well, I tried. Guess I still underestimate those two attacks.

 

[Caesartheape]

Lol shut up for once. :lol So annoying. This same team isn't stronger than Kaguya. Not sure how many times someone has to repeat this to your retarded ass. The only reason they can win is because they can seal her, not overpower her. They can't seal Hagoromo or overpower him so they die. Take away the seals and Kaguya would molest them.

Yeah but they also had DMS Kakashi, another Rikudo character to tip the scales.

There's no way Hago is handling 3 Rikudo characters at the same time. Kaguya is the only one who can do that so it evens out.