Adult Sasuke VS Hashirama

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There isn't any point in restricting something that Sasuke doesn't have. Sasuke doesn't possess half of Hagoromo's chakra. That was the Yin Seal.
Actually it has that chakra, Sasuke and Naruto no longer have only the jutsu of seal.

Anyway, Sasuke wins, since you restricted the best jutsu of Hashirama: sage mode, buddha and golem.
 
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You mean that extra chakra he recieved in his Yin seal? Because you can't have the Rinnegan without having rikudou chakra.
If that's the case Sasuke wins low diff.

Edit: Sagemode is restricted so it's neg diff. Sasuke won't need is rinnegan for this one then.

Um okay.
 

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Actually it has that chakra, Sasuke and Naruto no longer have the jutsu of seal.

Anyway, Sasuke wins, since you restricted the best jutsu of Hashirama: sage mode, buddha and golem.

I also restricted Sasuke's Rikudou chakra and Susanoo.
 

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The Yin Seal is irrelevant. It adds nothing to Sasuke besides the power to seal Kaguya. If you want to believe that he drew power from the Yin Seal, then it still wouldn't matter as when he draws from the seal his Chidori becomes black. That Chidori is white and it can still hurt Madara, who has the same ability as Obito, who takes far less damage from Ninjutsu than he does from Senjutsu. If you say that he didn't draw anything from the seal then you'd pretty much be agreeing that Sasuke has Hagoromo's power. If you say he drew from the Yin Seal despite his Chidori being white you will have to prove it.
The seals aren't irrelevant. The Yang Seal gave Naruto the ability to heal others by infusing them with Yang, so they do have other properties outside of sealing Kaguya. That is their main purpose, but the seals aren't limited to that alone.

The Chidori sword that he sliced Madara with has a black outline, something that a normal chidori sword doesn't, thus it is still using the Yin Seal's chakra.
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And, so what?

The manga has already shown the contents of Sasuke's chakra for all readers to see. He used a senjutsu Chidori only when drawing on the Yin Seal's power. In every other instance, it is white, thus there is no senjutsu. Not a hard concept to grasp.
 

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I also restricted Sasuke's Rikudou chakra and Susanoo.
Yes but Sasuke can use chibaku tensei and Ameno, perhaps in a very limited way without Rikudou chakra, i don't know.
 

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Sasuke wins.

-Rinnegan lets him levitate, so he levitates above the Flower World.
-Jukai Kotan is dodged via Ameno.
-Chibaku Tensei puts him away. He's not going to counter without Mokujin.

Or Sasuke uses Ameno to swap with his blade and stabs Hashirama through the heart just like he did to Madara.

If he could levitate why would Naruto need to provide him a footstool, and he was unable to fly without PS

Your right otherwise
 

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And, so what?

The manga has already shown the contents of Sasuke's chakra for all readers to see. He used a senjutsu Chidori only when drawing on the Yin Seal's power. In every other instance, it is white, thus there is no senjutsu. Not a hard concept to grasp.
So u can sense senjutsu without rikudo chakra or senjutsu now
Nice to know

@bold CS2 Chidori from Sasuke

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ur point is
 

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So u can sense senjutsu without rikudo chakra or senjutsu now
Nice to know
Sensing Senjutsu? Sure. Minato did it without being in Sage Mode.
@bold CS2 Chidori from Sasuke

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ur point is

My point is that Sasuke's Chidori when infused with Hagoromo's Six Paths Sage chakra is black. His CS2 form is irrelevant.
 

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If he could levitate why would Naruto need to provide him a footstool, and he was unable to fly without PS

Your right otherwise

That was teen Sasuke who had the Rinnegan for less than a hour compared to adult Sasuke who has it for 15 years.
 

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The Chidori sword that he sliced Madara with has a black outline, something that a normal chidori sword doesn't, thus it is still using the Yin Seal's chakra.

Those black outlines aren't the color of the blade itself, those are clearly motion lines. The colored version even shows that it's blue, but I can't find that at the moment.

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Same exact attack, but white. "Yin Seal" Chidori is black. If Sasuke made a Chidori out of what he used against JJ Madara when he wanted to bind him, the entire thing would be black.

They go to cut down Madara, who can only be hurt by Senjutsu as shown above.

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White Chidori.

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White Chidori.

Then we have him attacking Kaguya, who should logically have the same ability Madara does since she is the Juubi and the Juubi's power is what grants that ability, with a white Chidori.



And he attacked her with Susanoo. So no, Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra unless you are going to tell me that he attacked all these people with regular Ninjutsu.
Sensing Senjutsu? Sure. Minato did it without being in Sage Mode.

Minato being able to sense Senjutsu doesn't matter as anyone can sense it. It's chakra. What can't be sensed is Nature Energy. Only way to sense Nature Energy is to have control over it yourself.
 
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Sensing Senjutsu? Sure. Minato did it without being in Sage Mode.
Huh when
My point is that Sasuke's Chidori when infused with Hagoromo's Six Paths Sage chakra is black. His CS2 form is irrelevant.
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inb4 sasuke attacked or hurt them without using rikudou chakra
 

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Don't see how hashirama wins, Sasuke has far greater speed and reactions and in The Last, his chidori blew up a small mountain. All hashi's jutsu just get evaded and ripped apart with chidori and its variants. Flower tree world is easily evaded by summonin the hawk or outrunning the technique, unless those feats aren't allowed because 'rikudou chakra' is restricted.
 

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With his huge ass tree forest jutsu lol.

That's not breaking him out of CT, not by a long shot.

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The Chidori sword that he sliced Madara with has a black outline

Lmao, literally everything white in the manga has a black outline. Guess Danzo has Rikudou chakra as well:

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Is this a thread to see who wanks the hardest between Sages and DHOH?
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I agree with Sages456, the chidori used on madara seems to have a much darker outline than the standard chidori swords sasuke has used in the manga before which would be consistent with the black chidori he used a few pages earlier.
 

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I agree with Sages456, the chidori used on madara seems to have a much darker outline than the standard chidori swords sasuke has used in the manga before which would be consistent with the black chidori he used a few pages earlier.
I agree that the outline was Darker on that particular chidori, but we know that it takes Senjutsu to hurt JJ so it would be silly to think Sasuke would attack with any other chakra.
 
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