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Go read Obito vs. Konan.
Totally forgot about that fight.
Go read Obito vs. Konan.
Yeah course, old storyBlack zetsu defeated Madara![]()
I think its itachi because of his tsukuyomi?
Sasuke. *hands down*
One does not simply brake out of Itachi's tsukuyomi. And for those who will say the contrary, it's in the Databook.
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Why are people downplaying Madara? Incredible.
Itachi, the strongest 3T Uchiha after him, would get spanked, hard.
> Madara can tell clones apart with his Sharingan.
> Itachi is restricted to 3T Genjutsu only, which wouldn't bother Madara at all since he can counter with his own Sharingan
> Madara's Katon techniques make Itachi's look like Boruto's pea-sized Rasengan.
> Definitely better at Taijutsu
Madara's literally better in every category when it comes to being an Uchiha compared to Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, and fodder-Kakashi :lol
You're right. One does not break out. Unless they are blood related, which Sasuke is. Manga fact.
On topic, its probably a tie between Itachi and Kakashi. Sasuke showed very few feats besides VotE with 3T Sharingan. Madara just has hype and that one episode in the anime. Obito doesnt have shit with anything but MS lol. Itachi has shown a multitude of powerful genjutsu feats with nothing but his 3T sharingan, and Kakashi was known to have copied hundreds of jutsu with his. We even got to see his 3T Sharingan feats against Zabuza.
Why are people downplaying Madara? Incredible.
Itachi, the strongest 3T Uchiha after him, would get spanked, hard.
> Madara can tell clones apart with his Sharingan.
> Itachi is restricted to 3T Genjutsu only, which wouldn't bother Madara at all since he can counter with his own Sharingan
> Madara's Katon techniques make Itachi's look like Boruto's pea-sized Rasengan.
> Definitely better at Taijutsu
Lets be real from vote 1 up until sasuke faced raikage he had the feats to top everyone else
1.outclassed kyubbi narutos movements
2.defeated 1000 sound ninja (compareable to madaras War feat with 3 tomoe )
3.soloed orochimaru with genjutsu
4.deidara got hit with multiple genjutsu as well as sasuke countering his bombs with his sharingan prowess read the fight
5.sasuke broke tsukuyomi many say its the bloodline thing but it is a feat regardless
6.using only 3 tomoe he countered the raikgae point blank
These feats beat all the other uchiha in my opinion madaras only notable 3 tome feat is war arc soloing most of the alliance using 3 tomoe which was badass but he still ended up pulling mangekyo out itachi has genjutsu feats with it but so does sasuke obito and madara obito honestly hasn't shown many 3 tomoe feats besides wat he did to konan everything else is kaumi and ms
You can call it plot, but it's still a fact, and nothing discredits it.> pure plot shenanigan
> Itachi is still better at ocular genjutsu, which is the topic
> that has to do w/ strength of chakra & stamina, not doujutsu prowess
> baseless
not that I neccesarily disagree w/ you & of course madara is stronger, but thats really not the point ITT...
Itachi grew up in an era of War as well. You realize that Itachi was in Obito/Minato's era, right? Not that far behind from Obito is what I'm saying.hashirama stated his era was just naturally more stronger than the current as well as the fact that madara was born and raised in constant war. itachi was not.
This is not a feat. Any Uchiha with a Sharingan can do this, even young teen Obito with one eye.Was Able To Suppress Kurama
You can call it plot, but it's still a fact, and nothing discredits it.
Doesn't matter because Itachi's Genjutsu is worthless against Madara. Especially if we are talking about 3T Genjutsu only.
And? Madara spanks him in those categories too :lol
Go read the Manga before I start bringing out feats.
Itachi grew up in an era of War as well. You realize that Itachi was in Obito/Minato's era, right? Not that far behind from Obito is what I'm saying.
War didn't officially stop until Minato's death I would assume.
Missed context how ? Sasuke was fighting naruto and was at a disadvantage awakened 3 tomoe then proceeds to stomp1. you completely missed the context of that particular display
2. off paneling fodder...
3. Itachi?
4. all sharingan users have the same basic feat displays of the eye that sasuke used vs deidara, even kakashi
5. if only panel quantity & character relevance were the points of discussion...
6. no, he didn't ''counter'' raikage
Was noted by Black Zetsu to be more skilled than Itachi. (Black Zetsu is basically Canon as long as it has no Superlatives)
He said it during his battle with Tsunade I believe.somebody wanna tell me when it was confirmed madara can see though clones with 3t?