[Discussion] Doflamingo takes a Yonko commander gauntlet

[Punk Hazard]

Jack was never called a First Mate he was called one of the Three Calamities. Please show me where Jack was named First Mate already.

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Kaido's right hand man.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Mid diff doesn't mean it wasn't easy.

Well then I'm just not understanding your logic on this one, if a mid diff fight doesn't mean the fight wasn't won easily then what does it mean to you? Sabo showed no damage, no sign of drained stamina, no sign of exertion, the only thing this fight(may) have taken is time and not really a lot of time considering the scale of fights in OP. Jack fought 5 days, Akainu/Aokiji fought 5 days, Luffy and Doffy fought for what almost a day or more. Sabo's fight with Burgess was a fraction of Luffy's fight at best it was hours more realistically it was around an hour(which would be a feat for humans but they aren't so it's not)

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well then I'm just not understanding your logic on this one, if a mid diff fight doesn't mean the fight wasn't won easily then what does it mean to you? Sabo showed no damage, no sign of drained stamina, no sign of exertion, the only thing this fight(may) have taken is time and not really a lot of time considering the scale of fights in OP. Jack fought 5 days, Akainu/Aokiji fought 5 days, Luffy and Doffy fought for what almost a day or more. Sabo's fight with Burgess was a fraction of Luffy's fight at best it was hours more realistically it was around an hour(which would be a feat for humans but they aren't so it's not)

Low-diff: Casual one-shot

Mid-diff: Ranges from not much damage taken, if any, no hard breathing or sweating, but it wasn't casual, a degree of effort was needed, to mild damage and medium effort needed.

High-diff: Heavy damage or difficulty, needed to use much of one's effort, panting, sweating, tiredness

Extreme-diff: Two almost evenly matched combatants, heavy damage/near dying on both ends, takes a while, winner is probably alive but extremely fatigued or weakened.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Low-diff: Casual one-shot

Mid-diff: Ranges from not much damage taken, if any, no hard breathing or sweating, but it wasn't casual, a degree of effort was needed, to mild damage and medium effort needed.

High-diff: Heavy damage or difficulty, needed to use much of one's effort, panting, sweating, tiredness

Extreme-diff: Two almost evenly matched combatants, heavy damage/near dying on both ends, takes a while, winner is probably alive but extremely fatigued or weakened.

Your definition of low diff is actually a no diff fight.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Your definition of low diff is actually a no diff fight.

They're the same thing to me.

 

[chopstickchakra]

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Kaido's right hand man.

I stand corrected I didn't remember them saying that.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

They're the same thing to me.

There's a huge gap between your definition of mid diff and high diff then.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There's a huge gap between your definition of mid diff and high diff then.

LMFAO are you just trying to find anything wrong with my reasoning that you can for the sake of argument? "Okay, that didn't work. Then I see THIS wrong with your post."

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

LMFAO are you just trying to find anything wrong with my reasoning that you can for the sake of argument? "Okay, that didn't work. Then I see THIS wrong with your post."

Since you consider low diff and no diff the same thing, the gap between mid diff and high diff is huge. It goes from little damage taken and some effort needed to a lot of damage taken and a lot of effort needed.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Since you consider low diff and no diff the same thing, the gap between mid diff and high diff is huge. It goes from little damage taken and some effort needed to a lot of damage taken and a lot of effort needed.

I said mid diff ranges from little damage to moderate damage.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I said mid diff ranges from little damage to moderate damage.

You said not much damage taken, if any.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You said not much damage taken, if any.

Can you read please? I said ranges from not much damage taken, if any, to mild(moderate) damage

 

[chopstickchakra]

Can you read please? I said ranges from not much damage taken, if any, to mild(moderate) damage

It's all personal opinion but I side with Macho on his first post about your low diff fights. Personally I'd place your low-diff as no diff, low diff your first sentence of mid diff and mid diff your second sentence of mid diff. There's a clear distinction between being outclassed and one-shotted and being outclassed like Burgess was but still needing some time or effort put into defeating them.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There's a clear distinction between being outclassed and one-shotted and being outclassed like Burgess was but still needing some time or effort put into defeating them.

There is. The first one, to me, is no-low diff, and the second is mid-diff. The difference between no difficulty and low difficulty is negligible.

 

[ToshiZO]

I stand corrected I didn't remember them saying that.

That was not the right translation. Jack from my knowledge has never been called the FM. Only one of the 3 calamities.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

That was not the right translation. Jack from my knowledge has never been called the FM. Only one of the 3 calamities.

Kaido sends him on the most important missions, he is capable of stalemating the two leaders of Zou without getting any breaks, and he has a bounty of one billion berry. It's pretty obvious that Jack is the first mate.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Kaido sends him on the most important missions, he is capable of stalemating the two leaders of Zou without getting any breaks, and he has a bounty of one billion berry. It's pretty obvious that Jack is the first mate.

Valid enough but I thought we established that perceived and implied and logical don't count for verified until it's in the manga? Also right hand man and number 2 in charge are not synonymous with strongest though usually they are paired. FM is just the crew member who is 2nd in command, whether they are strongest or not is not guaranteed. Shiryuu is the seemingly 2nd strongest(bar Aokiji) in BB but he's not FM. If that scan is correct than yes Jack is FM and I was wrong but ToshizO doesn't seem to think that's the right translation so idk anymore, I didn't recall reading that in the translation I read but I may have overlooked it. Jack could be his strongest subordinate but not his most trusted.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That was not the right translation. Jack from my knowledge has never been called the FM. Only one of the 3 calamities.

Do you have a Viz scan?

 

[ToshiZO]

Do you have a Viz scan?

No, but this is the Cnet translation

"Who the hell do you think you’re talking to?!! // This honoured personage before you...is one of the closest confidants of the Yonkou Kaidou-sama himself!! // One of his three most trusted warriors, the ones they call the “Disasters”!! // You stand before none other than Jack the Drought!!!"

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[Punk Hazard]

No, but this is the Cnet translation

"Who the hell do you think you’re talking to?!! // This honoured personage before you...is one of the closest confidants of the Yonkou Kaidou-sama himself!! // One of his three most trusted warriors, the ones they call the “Disasters”!! // You stand before none other than Jack the Drought!!!"

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*Continues looking for Viz*