Don't you hate how Naruto take credit for the war?
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Sasuke did something that's why he was forgiven and he did many crimes...
So people don't trust him so much...
Naruto didn't do crimes and saved S.A from being nuked by 4TBB Sasuke didn't save them...
So people don't trust him so much...
Naruto didn't do crimes and saved S.A from being nuked by 4TBB Sasuke didn't save them...
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Some reasons why it's fair for Naruto to receive more credit than Sasuke, despite Sasuke's key role in the war:
(1) Naruto joined the war relatively late, and the Shinobi Alliance had already suffered heavy casualties. Immediately upon learning of the war, however, Naruto's objective was to protect his friends and prevent further casualties. Sasuke joined the scene even later, after first setting out to hunt down Naruto and then deliberating about whether or not to help save the village. While Sasuke did help to end the Edo Tensei, it was mostly Itachi doing the work, and Sasuke still had no intention of helping with the war.
(2) Before Sasuke joined the war, Naruto single-handedly turned the tide in every single battlefield, defeating numerous powerful Edo Tensei (including the Second Tsuchikage and Third Raikage). His power was necessary to defeat the army of White Zetsu, which otherwise was crushing the Shinobi Alliance (they couldn't even heal the injured, out of fear that the "injured" might be White Zetsu imposters). Further, were it not for Naruto's appearance, Itachi and Nagato could have been used to devastate the Shinobi Alliance; while it was Itachi's crow that freed Itachi from Kabuto's control, Naruto's presence allowed it to happen.
(3) While Sasuke was doing his soul searching to determine whether or not the world was worth saving, Naruto was fighting with all his might against Obito and the controlled Bijuu. Naruto's ability to share chakra was the key component in allowing the Shinobi Alliance to stall against the Ten Tails long enough for Sasuke to finally arrive on the scene with reinforcements. It is true, however, that Sasuke's reinforcements came at a critical moment, and this greatly made up for Sasuke's lateness.
(4) In the fight against Juubito, Naruto quickly took the lead. His ability to share chakra with the Alliance, and to link with Minato's Yin Kurama, allowed the Alliance to escape certain destruction at the hands of Juubito's Bijuudama. Sasuke, on the other hand, was about to abandon everyone, saving only himself, Juugo, and Naruto. Whereas Sasuke quickly gave up on the others, whom he didn't see as worth saving, Naruto found a way to accomplish the seemingly-impossible; this moment spoke volumes about their characters, and shows Naruto as the one most worthy of being called "heroic." Naruto then led the charge, having discovered that his Senjutsu was the only power capable of combating Juubito.
(5) Sasuke had a great moment when he helped keep Naruto from losing the will to fight; while Naruto was shaken by the loss of his comrades, Sasuke stayed focused. The two then fought side-by-side against Juubito, eventually combining their chakra avatars to successfully land a powerful blow. However, while their powers were equally relevant in this feat, it was Naruto's chakra overlapping with Obito, and the conflict of ideals between Naruto and Obito, that shook Obito's will and caused Obito to lose the confrontation. Further, were it not for Naruto's friendship with the Bijuu and his ability to link to their chakra, the superficial wound that Naruto and Sasuke had managed to land would have done nothing to stop Juubito; the ONLY reason that the attack was successful was that Naruto was able to pull out Juubito's Bijuu chakra.
(6) Sasuke played a key role in deflecting the Infinite Tsukuyomi with his Rinnegan and Susano'o. He was the only one capable of this feat, and, had Team 7 been trapped in the genjutsu, there would have been no way to seal Madara or Kaguya.
(7) Naruto was far more relevant in the battle against Kaguya. Sasuke's only real accomplishment was landing his half of the Seal; before that, Sasuke was easily trapped in a separate dimension, and it took everything that Team 7 and Obito had to bring Sasuke back. Meanwhile, Naruto was successfully stalling against Kaguya, completely on his own. Each of Sasuke's efforts to attack Kaguya failed, and she easily made short work of his Susano'o. Only Naruto's attacks proved effective, at least showing the ability to overpower Kaguya's defense or destabilize her Bijuu chakra. So, again, while both their Seals were needed to ultimately defeat Kaguya, and Sasuke played a part in the fight, he was clearly outshined by Naruto's feats.
(8) Immediately after the Kaguya fight, Sasuke revealed his true objective, which was to become the next villain. While his motives were somewhat understandable, they were ruthless, unjust, and doomed to fail. Sasuke would have killed all of the previous Kage and the Bijuu, despite having fought alongside them in the War, and then would have controlled the Shinobi world through force and fear. It was only after Naruto fought against Sasuke to a draw that Sasuke reconsidered his plans.
Anyway, these are some of the reasons why I believe it's justified that Naruto is treated as the "Hero" of the war. His motives were always to protect his friends and save the world, while Sasuke's motives were far more questionable or conflicted. Sasuke was definitely key to the victory, as well.
(1) Naruto joined the war relatively late, and the Shinobi Alliance had already suffered heavy casualties. Immediately upon learning of the war, however, Naruto's objective was to protect his friends and prevent further casualties. Sasuke joined the scene even later, after first setting out to hunt down Naruto and then deliberating about whether or not to help save the village. While Sasuke did help to end the Edo Tensei, it was mostly Itachi doing the work, and Sasuke still had no intention of helping with the war.
(2) Before Sasuke joined the war, Naruto single-handedly turned the tide in every single battlefield, defeating numerous powerful Edo Tensei (including the Second Tsuchikage and Third Raikage). His power was necessary to defeat the army of White Zetsu, which otherwise was crushing the Shinobi Alliance (they couldn't even heal the injured, out of fear that the "injured" might be White Zetsu imposters). Further, were it not for Naruto's appearance, Itachi and Nagato could have been used to devastate the Shinobi Alliance; while it was Itachi's crow that freed Itachi from Kabuto's control, Naruto's presence allowed it to happen.
(3) While Sasuke was doing his soul searching to determine whether or not the world was worth saving, Naruto was fighting with all his might against Obito and the controlled Bijuu. Naruto's ability to share chakra was the key component in allowing the Shinobi Alliance to stall against the Ten Tails long enough for Sasuke to finally arrive on the scene with reinforcements. It is true, however, that Sasuke's reinforcements came at a critical moment, and this greatly made up for Sasuke's lateness.
(4) In the fight against Juubito, Naruto quickly took the lead. His ability to share chakra with the Alliance, and to link with Minato's Yin Kurama, allowed the Alliance to escape certain destruction at the hands of Juubito's Bijuudama. Sasuke, on the other hand, was about to abandon everyone, saving only himself, Juugo, and Naruto. Whereas Sasuke quickly gave up on the others, whom he didn't see as worth saving, Naruto found a way to accomplish the seemingly-impossible; this moment spoke volumes about their characters, and shows Naruto as the one most worthy of being called "heroic." Naruto then led the charge, having discovered that his Senjutsu was the only power capable of combating Juubito.
(5) Sasuke had a great moment when he helped keep Naruto from losing the will to fight; while Naruto was shaken by the loss of his comrades, Sasuke stayed focused. The two then fought side-by-side against Juubito, eventually combining their chakra avatars to successfully land a powerful blow. However, while their powers were equally relevant in this feat, it was Naruto's chakra overlapping with Obito, and the conflict of ideals between Naruto and Obito, that shook Obito's will and caused Obito to lose the confrontation. Further, were it not for Naruto's friendship with the Bijuu and his ability to link to their chakra, the superficial wound that Naruto and Sasuke had managed to land would have done nothing to stop Juubito; the ONLY reason that the attack was successful was that Naruto was able to pull out Juubito's Bijuu chakra.
(6) Sasuke played a key role in deflecting the Infinite Tsukuyomi with his Rinnegan and Susano'o. He was the only one capable of this feat, and, had Team 7 been trapped in the genjutsu, there would have been no way to seal Madara or Kaguya.
(7) Naruto was far more relevant in the battle against Kaguya. Sasuke's only real accomplishment was landing his half of the Seal; before that, Sasuke was easily trapped in a separate dimension, and it took everything that Team 7 and Obito had to bring Sasuke back. Meanwhile, Naruto was successfully stalling against Kaguya, completely on his own. Each of Sasuke's efforts to attack Kaguya failed, and she easily made short work of his Susano'o. Only Naruto's attacks proved effective, at least showing the ability to overpower Kaguya's defense or destabilize her Bijuu chakra. So, again, while both their Seals were needed to ultimately defeat Kaguya, and Sasuke played a part in the fight, he was clearly outshined by Naruto's feats.
(8) Immediately after the Kaguya fight, Sasuke revealed his true objective, which was to become the next villain. While his motives were somewhat understandable, they were ruthless, unjust, and doomed to fail. Sasuke would have killed all of the previous Kage and the Bijuu, despite having fought alongside them in the War, and then would have controlled the Shinobi world through force and fear. It was only after Naruto fought against Sasuke to a draw that Sasuke reconsidered his plans.
Anyway, these are some of the reasons why I believe it's justified that Naruto is treated as the "Hero" of the war. His motives were always to protect his friends and save the world, while Sasuke's motives were far more questionable or conflicted. Sasuke was definitely key to the victory, as well.
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Are you mad? I can say: "It is no wonder that a Narutobase member that has a Sasuke avatar would create such a stupid thread."
And believe me, Narutobase members with Sasuke avatars have not created great threads lately. You have the OP as an example.
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and it was naruto who solo'd almost the entire enemy army. helping to take down kaguya, who a grand total of five people where around to see and therefore may not have happened is different.
but really, the history recoring in NV is pretty pathetic. the official score is that naruto stopped the juubi. no mention of sasuke, obito, madara, kaguya, the edo hokage, the zetsu army, kabuto or several other key figures.
but really, the history recoring in NV is pretty pathetic. the official score is that naruto stopped the juubi. no mention of sasuke, obito, madara, kaguya, the edo hokage, the zetsu army, kabuto or several other key figures.
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1. Oro did that
2. I thought Minato + Naruto did thaat
3. Idk how that even matters.
4. Still doing half the work
5. This is true
6. If you mean with the yin seal, sure. He did half the job. During the actual fight, less than half
7. Half the job again...
He got a pardon for his role in the war, and in Gaiden is highly respected as the "Other Hokage"
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1) No it was Orochimaru. Sasuke DID bring Orochimaru back but Sasuke didn't know that Orochimaru was going to bring the Kage back & it wasn't a part of HIS plan. He just wanted info. Can Kushina take credit for Naruto's accheivements because she brought him inot this world? No. Wouldn't have been done without her but it's not her abilities or actions.
2) No Tobirama kept the Shinobi army from being nuked using his FTG. And all 4 of the Hokage who did it the time before that. I might be missing something so please provide a scan but he's still 2 vs 1, Tobirama's favor
3) Yeah lots of others did too. But what did Sasuke do in that time & did he show any respect for Neji's death? No, he didn't. The camera wasn't on Sasuke at all because he didn't matter. It was about Naruto's responce & growth in the face of loosing loved ones.
4) He only did half the work--No Kyuubi means no Susano'o/Kyubi mix. It was badass & I LOVED Sasuke coppying Madara's idea. But it wasn't origional or 100% him.
5) So did Naruto :-/
6) So did Naruto, Kurama, Sakura, Kakashi & Obito. In fact without Sakura and Obito, Sasuke would have died. He got owned at the beginning of the fight & stranded. Then ignored while Kaguya focused on someone else.
7) Once again, he wouldn't have done it without Naruto. And if Sakura hadn't shown up they'd both be dead.
Naruto didn't do everything but Sasuke certainly didn't do it all himself either. Most of his badass feats like Naruto's involved someone else's help. Naruto & Asura's legacy was teamwork & unity. Indra's legacy was standing alone & accheiving power like a solo badass. Sasuke relied on help countless times.
I always thought of Naruto & Sasuke as equal opposites & be balanced/unbiased. But this is just absurd.
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Can't +Rep this enough, all the fanboys need to see this. Excellent job explaining it.
I loved this war and the notion that anyone could be called a hero. Naruto is nothing but a scumbag for siding with the Leaf, knowingly as to what atrocities they had comitted over the decades. I don't give a damn as to what Sasuke did, but Naruto and his fellow wankers are no heroes.
Edit: Relevant against Kaguya? White Zetsu Assault and information that was gathered by Sakura? Single-handedly defeated Edos sealed by others? Shinobi alliance feat devised by Shikaku, and then Shikamaru? Defeated Obito (which he never did, unless breaking someone's mask is defeat) on a feat by Sakura and aid from others? Joke posts, I assume.
Edit: Relevant against Kaguya? White Zetsu Assault and information that was gathered by Sakura? Single-handedly defeated Edos sealed by others? Shinobi alliance feat devised by Shikaku, and then Shikamaru? Defeated Obito (which he never did, unless breaking someone's mask is defeat) on a feat by Sakura and aid from others? Joke posts, I assume.
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Sasuke was never meant to be the hero who gained all the glory, his whole revolution was him uniting the world by being an enemy from the shadows.
History remembers Naruto as the Hero of the shinobi world, guess thats something you gotta deal with.
History remembers Naruto as the Hero of the shinobi world, guess thats something you gotta deal with.
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It was also Sasuke who turned against the Alliance wiping away any positive credibility he had previously recieved.
It was actually Naruto who did more against Kaguya than Sasuke because Sasuke was quickly teleported by Kaguya to the desert dimension via Amenomika.
It was actually Naruto who did more against Kaguya than Sasuke because Sasuke was quickly teleported by Kaguya to the desert dimension via Amenomika.
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wow maybe, the guy who actually made an effort to help and emphasise with people is the one who gets more credit? Crazy that the guy who tried to kill war heroes, Tailed Beasts & world leaders alike, as well as being a criminal runaway who randomly returned to most of the world and proclaimed to be the Hokage. What reason would anybody in the NV have to give credit to Sasuke over Naruto? He aimed to literally save the world to threaten their way of life in a completely new way- just as bad as Obito or at the least Danzo.
Sasuke's revolution wouldn't have involved him taking any credit either, he doesn't care about it and neither should you. What? The Moon/Sun imagery went completely over your head or? Just another attempt to compare d(ck sizes with Naruto and Naruto fans....cmon man give it a rest, even for a troll- it's christmas haha
Your constant lack of understanding for your own evident fav is insane.
Sasuke's revolution wouldn't have involved him taking any credit either, he doesn't care about it and neither should you. What? The Moon/Sun imagery went completely over your head or? Just another attempt to compare d(ck sizes with Naruto and Naruto fans....cmon man give it a rest, even for a troll- it's christmas haha
Your constant lack of understanding for your own evident fav is insane.
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