Jiraiya vs. Danzo

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Danzo only uses that jutsu when he has to bust through strong defenses as it's the only time it's used in the manga



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1. I see the way you tried to turn around what I said on me earlier. Lol. But did Danzo ever say anything like that? "Ive got to use something like this to get through that strong defense" or anything like that?

2. Wrong barrier, homeboy.
 

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1. I see the way you tried to turn around what I said on me earlier. Lol. But did Danzo ever say anything like that? "Ive got to use something like this to get through that strong defense" or anything like that?

It was never stated Jiraiya's barrier tactic was only restricted for invisible things either. You simply assumed so because he said he needed one to fight an invisible thing. in the only real fight he had
As Danzo needed to use that fuuton to bust through susanoo, While his others were blocked with zero damage.


2. Wrong barrier, homeboy.

Noticed afterwards
 

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Danzo only uses that jutsu when he has to bust through strong defenses as it's the only time it's used in the manga

So you're saying he wouldn't use it when it could finish Jiraiya just because he doesn't have a strong defense? ...
 

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So you're saying he wouldn't use it when it could finish Jiraiya just because he doesn't have a strong defense? ...

Well going of Danzo's manga battle with sasuke, no.

He used a kunai first, then a small scale fuuton's.
 

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If Jiraiya doesn't start out in Sage Mode, I see him losing due to Izanagi and a blindside attack.
 

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Danzo is like the pay to win nub or bug abuser of any MMORPG. Couldn't become OP through his own abilities so he had to abuse the system. He probably pushed for the Uchiha clan massacre just so he could collect those Sharingan and go running to his boyfriend Orochimaru for even more hax.

P.S. I hate Danzo.
 

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Lol Jman wins. If KA was restricted I'm close to saying he'd stomp.
 
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It was never stated Jiraiya's barrier tactic was only restricted for invisible things either. You simply assumed so because he said he needed one to fight an invisible thing. in the only real fight he had
As Danzo needed to use that fuuton to bust through susanoo, While his others were blocked with zero damage.

Noticed afterwards

Why would he use something thats main purpose is sensing invisible foes when the foe is visible?

As for the fuuton, your point doesn't really make a lot of sense.


Lol Jman wins. If KA was restricted I'm close to saying he'd stomp.

1. You think Jiraiya wins against KA?
2. How does Jiraiya win at all? Even with KA restricted?
 

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Why would he use something thats main purpose is sensing invisible foes when the foe is visible?

What makes you think it's main purpose is for sensing invisible things?. Simply because it was used to counter invisibility the only time it's used?.

Sensing has many uses, not just being able to detect invisible foes, Jiraiya simply used it for one use, doesn't mean it is the main use of the jutsu by any means.
 

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What makes you think it's main purpose is for sensing invisible things?. Simply because it was used to counter invisibility the only time it's used?.

Sensing has many uses, not just being able to detect invisible foes, Jiraiya simply used it for one use, doesn't mean it is the main use of the jutsu by any means.

Go ahead and describe it's purpose then, because that's what I came up with. Either way, you didn't disprove my statement.
 

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Danzo gets boned.

-Sensing barrier lets him know Danzo's position at all times, so we can forget about Izanagi blindside attacks.
-Katon counters Baku's suction and every Fuuton in his arsenal.

Once Jiraiya makes it into Sage Mode, which will be easy given his ability to sense w/ the barrier, clones and the toad summons, he just slaps Danzo around until Izanagi runs out. Danzo's moveset is useless here as all his powerful techs revolve around Fuuton, which Jiraiya hard counters with Katon. If he engages in CQC Ma and Pa tear him apart or Jiraiya just pastes him with COR. When he finally dies, reverse trigrams is evaded.

Again, Danzo gets boned.
 

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Danzo gets boned.

-Sensing barrier lets him know Danzo's position at all times, so we can forget about Izanagi blindside attacks.
-Katon counters Baku's suction and every Fuuton in his arsenal.

Once Jiraiya makes it into Sage Mode, which will be easy given his ability to sense w/ the barrier, clones and the toad summons, he just slaps Danzo around until Izanagi runs out. Danzo's moveset is useless here as all his powerful techs revolve around Fuuton, which Jiraiya hard counters with Katon. If he engages in CQC Ma and Pa tear him apart or Jiraiya just pastes him with COR. When he finally dies, reverse trigrams is evaded.

Again, Danzo gets boned.

KA is not restricted
 

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Danzo gets boned.

-Sensing barrier lets him know Danzo's position at all times, so we can forget about Izanagi blindside attacks.
-Katon counters Baku's suction and every Fuuton in his arsenal.

Once Jiraiya makes it into Sage Mode, which will be easy given his ability to sense w/ the barrier, clones and the toad summons, he just slaps Danzo around until Izanagi runs out. Danzo's moveset is useless here as all his powerful techs revolve around Fuuton, which Jiraiya hard counters with Katon. If he engages in CQC Ma and Pa tear him apart or Jiraiya just pastes him with COR. When he finally dies, reverse trigrams is evaded.

Again, Danzo gets boned.

Without full intel, why would he put up the barrier?
 

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Without full intel, why would he put up the barrier?

Point.

Irrelevant in the long run though since he can just evade the blindside attack or block with his hair after having a toad warn him, and summons are a staple in Jiraiya's arsenal so don't try to argue that Danzo unseals his arm, gets killed and respawns all before Jiraiya summons. After the first attack is thwarted, the barrier goes up and Danzo gets raped.

I mean it's a VS thread though had it been restricted then I'd agree but Danzo wins for obvious reasons

Lol really now? If OP wanted KA to be unrestricted then there would be no point of a VS thread as there would be no discussion on who wins.
 

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Point.

Irrelevant in the long run though since he can just evade the blindside attack or block with his hair after having a toad warn him, and summons are a staple in Jiraiya's arsenal so don't try to argue that Danzo unseals his arm, gets killed and respawns all before Jiraiya summons. After the first attack is thwarted, the barrier goes up and Danzo gets raped.



Lol really now? If OP wanted KA to be unrestricted then there would be no point of a VS thread as there would be no discussion on who wins.

I guess, I just don't se how he's getting past Izanagi, I read your response and I just don't see the barrier working seeing as how Izanagi basically reverse the effects of what happens to the user. Danzo also that sealing jutsu and with no intel, it could be tough
 

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Point.

Irrelevant in the long run though since he can just evade the blindside attack or block with his hair after having a toad warn him, and summons are a staple in Jiraiya's arsenal so don't try to argue that Danzo unseals his arm, gets killed and respawns all before Jiraiya summons. After the first attack is thwarted, the barrier goes up and Danzo gets raped.



Lol really now? If OP wanted KA to be unrestricted then there would be no point of a VS thread as there would be no discussion on who wins.

Danzo doesn't need to unseal his arm to use KA. Jiraiya kills him one time without having to summon anything with some generic rasengan type business and danzo appears behind him and ends it.
 

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Danzo doesn't need to unseal his arm to use KA. Jiraiya kills him one time without having to summon anything with some generic rasengan type business and danzo appears behind him and ends it.

If you are going to take KA into account then you can stop replying now. :lol

What you are suggesting happens is ridiculous and probably the most unrealistic battle scenario for Jiraiya's character that I have ever seen. It's clear you are grasping at straws here.

-Thinks Jiraiya will charge headfirst with a regular Rasengan against a guy who he believes has obtained strange abilities.
-Thinks Jiraiya will not try and enter Sage Mode against a guy who he believes has obtained strange abilities.
-Thinks Jiraiya will not summon even though it's part of his fighting style. Something he does more often than using Rasengan.
-Thinks Danzo will let himself get killed by Jiraiya in the first place instead of trying to counter attack when he comes in for the Rasengan.

lolololol really?

I guess, I just don't se how he's getting past Izanagi, I read your response and I just don't see the barrier working seeing as how Izanagi basically reverse the effects of what happens to the user. Danzo also that sealing jutsu and with no intel, it could be tough

That makes no sense. Izanagi being able to reverse damage done to him has nothing to do with the barrier's effectiveness, and his sealing jutsu is irrelevant unless Jiraiya lets Danzo touch him. Danzo has no way to do anything significant to Jiraiya, so he can't win.
 
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