Kabuto's Naivety......

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Kabuto thought he was smarter then Madara :

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but in the end Madara was smarter then him :

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-Orochimaru knew that Edo-Madara is uncontrollable,thats why he never dared edotensei him
 

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The only reason madara was able to break edo tensei was because Itachi had weakened Kabuto's edo tensei control by releasing the jutsu.
 

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The only reason madara was able to break edo tensei was because Itachi had weakened Kabuto's edo tensei control by releasing the jutsu.

dont get teh wrong idea son...Madara wasn't even controlled...he was just revived
 

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Tobidara > Maddyln gg

i wont disagree with you ,listen to me well : there might come the day when rikudo madara meets his other part tobidara..dat time rikudo madara MIGHT be talknojutsued and turns against the untalknojutsued boss Tobidara.....

-when dat day comes..im gonna launch a destructive attack on Madarabase
 

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i wont disagree with you ,listen to me well : there might come the day when rikudo madara meets his other part tobidara..dat time rikudo madara MIGHT be talknojutsued and turns against the untalknojutsued boss Tobidara.....

-when dat day comes..im gonna launch a destructive attack on Madarabase

Yes yes, but keep in mind Itachi still negs Tobidara.


In all honesty Tobidara is lucky that father Ita has passed on, but we know Tobidara transcends life.
 

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Funny how the only time Madara tried to break away from Kabuto's will was when Kabuto was comatose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Madara is too powerful . Wouldn't matter if kabuto was conscious madara could still break it as hashi did it against ofos without the seal and madara was stronger at that time than hashi
 

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The only reason madara was able to break edo tensei was because Itachi had weakened Kabuto's edo tensei control by releasing the jutsu.

Madara didn't break out and Itachi didn't weaken the control. Itachi released the souls completely, and Madara re-summoned himself. If it hadn't of been for Hashirama's cells, the more potent power of Oro couldn't bind Tobirama. So never mind Kabuto binding Madara.
 

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Kabuto is smarter than Madara.

The only reason Madara had control at all was because Kabuto allowed him to, and didn't shut his mind down entirely.
 

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Funny how the only time Madara tried to break away from Kabuto's will was when Kabuto was comatose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well yeah, that was his best opportunity. But it was a troll move on Kishi's part. Even though he was mandatory for the plot I lost interest in Madara by then.
 

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The only reason madara was able to break edo tensei was because Itachi had weakened Kabuto's edo tensei control by releasing the jutsu.

Right, because I'm sure Madara's whole idea was, "geez I really really hope someone takes down Kabuto because I'm completely helpless against his control."
 

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Right, because I'm sure Madara's whole idea was, "geez I really really hope someone takes down Kabuto because I'm completely helpless against his control."

Madara had no reason to want to break control. He and Kabuto had the same goals. He only broke the control so he wouldn't die again after Kabuto lost.

Don't pretend like he was scheming the entire time.
 

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Madara had no reason to want to break control. He and Kabuto had the same goals. He only broke the control so he wouldn't die again after Kabuto lost.

Don't pretend like he was scheming the entire time.

I was actually trying to imply the opposite of that. Madara was just goin with the flow until the Edo Tensei was released, then he got serious and retained his place.
 

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I was actually trying to imply the opposite of that. Madara was just goin with the flow until the Edo Tensei was released, then he got serious and retained his place.

Madara didn't even need Edo Tensei to be released. All he needed was for Obito to perform Rinne Tensei.

Madara literally had no plans to release Kabuto's control whatsoever, until Kabuto lost and Madara was at risk of being destroyed.

And all that was only possible because Kabuto knew they were on the same side, which means he never chose to erase Madara's mind completely to restrain him, as Orochimaru did to Hashirama.

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If you recall, the second time Orochimaru summoned Hashirama, he didn't implant a sealing tag within his head to restrain him. That's the only reason Hashirama was able to break out as well.
 
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