Instant speed vs Instant portal

[RuckenTM]

Instant speed	Vs.	Instant portal
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In a battle between the two; with players choosing their powers, who would come out on top?
Chose your side to support in this debate.
Rep to those who a most logical. I could go farther and also give out Premiums. ^^It's almost the season anyways.

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[Punk Hazard]

Spawn portal 5 meters in diameter directly beneath speedster. Instant speed is useless with no surface to move on.

 

[Urda]

Nothing is faster than instant. They both get there at the same time.

 

[-immortal-]

An instant portal isn't instant user speed.

User with enchaned super speed > portal guy

Destroys portal guy with his insane speed

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Well isn;t it possible for the portal user to cover themselves with portals in each area on their bodies? The users body takes a space in a volume technically. If yes, then portals. If not then obviously super speed since the portal speed isn't proportional to the user's.

by creating a vortex that absorbs everything into another dimension.

This might be enough to beat super speed

 

[Gerkak]

Turn the battlefield into a portal(basically create create a very large black hole like portal)that leads to a void GG speedster

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Portal Powers even if you eliminate the use of vortexes.

Portals allow you to be in two places at once, it allows you to send things huge distances (like others). Say someone was nuking you, Portal to the next star. It works as amazing defence, and can be multi-dimensional. I could throw a portal at someone and send them to another dimension. I could break into The Oval Office and out without any trace at all. I could open portals into the sky, or ocean.

In a battle, you would win with portals. If you allow the power to wrap portals, you would effectively become a portal, by wrapping yourself in an orb. You could make microscopic portal fields to run through so the user ceases to exist. Your portal is instant, so it would be up as soon as the speedster could run.

It's more versatile, while still allowing the same power, only limited by your reflexes

 

[Pyro NB]

Portal Powers even if you eliminate the use of vortexes.

Portals allow you to be in two places at once, it allows you to send things huge distances (like others). Say someone was nuking you, Portal to the next star. It works as amazing defence, and can be multi-dimensional. I could throw a portal at someone and send them to another dimension. I could break into The Oval Office and out without any trace at all. I could open portals into the sky, or ocean.

It's more versatile, while still allowing the same power, only limited by your reflexes

I like this answer, also I'm choosing portals for basically the same reason more or less.

 

[Wparker6804]

Spawn portal 5 meters in diameter directly beneath speedster. Instant speed is useless with no surface to move on.

Make the portal face down. Instant death via Event Horizon

 

[Troyg39]

In a battle between the two, instant speed would have a better chance of winning.

The reason is because speed is a ratio, meaning you can be in continuous motion, i.e. a constant rate of movement[\B]. Consistent physical movement; your location is constantly changing.

The ability to open an "instant portal" is just that. You can instantly create a portal at a specific point or make two points the same. The problem is that the scope of this ability is limited first and foremost by the points. This is the flaw that someone with instant physical movement of theif entire body can exploit. In order to "teleport" a moving object with a portal, the portal would have to be converged with the exact location of your target, a feat that would be easier said than done if the target is in instant, constant motion, meaning the target will have changed location (moved to a new point) at the same time you set a portal at the target's previous location. In other words, when you instantly set a portal at point A, your target with instant speed is instantly moved to point B at the same time, making your portal useless.

You would have to set a portal where your target is going to be in order to catch them in the portal, but then you would be relying on your reflexes to set the portal in the right place in time to catch your target and without your target being able to avoid your portal, all while hoping you can do so before your instantly moving opponent is able to get to you first. And even if you manage to catch your opponent with the instant portal, the speed of your portal's teleportation rate would have to be fast enough to teleport your opponent before it can change location (keep in mind it's moving at "instant" speed according to the rules), as being able to spawn a portal instantly isn't the same as being able to teleport something instantly.

Personally if it's a battle between the two I'd choose speed, though I'd rather have the portal outside of a fight. In a fight against the two skills though, you'd have less variables working against you with speed.

 

[RuckenTM]

In a battle between the two, instant speed would have a better chance of winning.

The reason is because speed is a ratio, meaning you can be in continuous motion, i.e. a constant rate of movement[\B]. Consistent physical movement; your location is constantly changing.

The ability to open an "instant portal" is just that. You can instantly create a portal at a specific point or make two points the same. The problem is that the scope of this ability is limited first and foremost by the points. This is the flaw that someone with instant physical movement of theif entire body can exploit. In order to "teleport" a moving object with a portal, the portal would have to be converged with the exact location of your target, a feat that would be easier said than done if the target is in instant, constant motion, meaning the target will have changed location (moved to a new point) at the same time you set a portal at the target's previous location. In other words, when you instantly set a portal at point A, your target with instant speed is instantly moved to point B at the same time, making your portal useless.

You would have to set a portal where your target is going to be in order to catch them in the portal, but then you would be relying on your reflexes to set the portal in the right place in time to catch your target and without your target being able to avoid your portal, all while hoping you can do so before your instantly moving opponent is able to get to you first. And even if you manage to catch your opponent with the instant portal, the speed of your portal's teleportation rate would have to be fast enough to teleport your opponent before it can change location (keep in mind it's moving at "instant" speed according to the rules), as being able to spawn a portal instantly isn't the same as being able to teleport something instantly.

Personally if it's a battle between the two I'd choose speed, though I'd rather have the portal outside of a fight. In a fight against the two skills though, you'd have less variables working against you with speed.

I'll wait around a little longer(till Monday) to see if anyone will defeat this logical statement and I'll have your Premium set up. +Rep.

 

[Multiply]

In a battle between the two, instant speed would have a better chance of winning.

The reason is because speed is a ratio, meaning you can be in continuous motion, i.e. a constant rate of movement[\B]. Consistent physical movement; your location is constantly changing.

The ability to open an "instant portal" is just that. You can instantly create a portal at a specific point or make two points the same. The problem is that the scope of this ability is limited first and foremost by the points. This is the flaw that someone with instant physical movement of theif entire body can exploit. In order to "teleport" a moving object with a portal, the portal would have to be converged with the exact location of your target, a feat that would be easier said than done if the target is in instant, constant motion, meaning the target will have changed location (moved to a new point) at the same time you set a portal at the target's previous location. In other words, when you instantly set a portal at point A, your target with instant speed is instantly moved to point B at the same time, making your portal useless.

You would have to set a portal where your target is going to be in order to catch them in the portal, but then you would be relying on your reflexes to set the portal in the right place in time to catch your target and without your target being able to avoid your portal, all while hoping you can do so before your instantly moving opponent is able to get to you first. And even if you manage to catch your opponent with the instant portal, the speed of your portal's teleportation rate would have to be fast enough to teleport your opponent before it can change location (keep in mind it's moving at "instant" speed according to the rules), as being able to spawn a portal instantly isn't the same as being able to teleport something instantly.

Personally if it's a battle between the two I'd choose speed, though I'd rather have the portal outside of a fight. In a fight against the two skills though, you'd have less variables working against you with speed.

This obviously. Instant speed will outmatch instant portal in every way.

 

[Stant]

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what have this planet evolved to? "Instant SPEED"........... once again i need to explain the obvious. Instant= no time,
speed = actual movement with time. In other words those words dont fit together

 

[The Demon Hawk]

There is nothing special about supersonic speed. If we were talking about the speed of light, then that'd be really hax since it could also grant the ability to stop or slow down time. And you could basically reach to any location in the same amount of time you could do with a S/T portal, or even faster. But that's not the case here.

And high speed has its disadvantages i.e. great amount of strain on the body, while the portal power has not shown to take any significant toll on your body. Going by the potential capability of both those powers, I think portal still comes out on top. Because that gives a large amount of versatility and functionality.

If the two are pitted against each other, then portal again dominates. Not because it'll overpower super speed in any regard (because frankly, supersonic speed can hold up against portal transportation) but the portal user will take advantage of the speed user's weakness to eventually own him.

With a portal, you can track someone and reach them at any location, so it'll be useless to use their speed to waste energy to escape. And then you can use the creativity, versatility and functionality of the portal technique (like black hole creation, white hole attacks, deflection etc. there's just too much going on) to force the speed user to use his speed and eventually render him weakened. If he doesn't, then he'll get victimized by the hax techs.

 

[RuckenTM]

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what have this planet evolved to? "Instant SPEED"........... once again i need to explain the obvious. Instant= no time,
speed = actual movement with time. In other words those words dont fit together

Ah, good point. Though Instant isn't without time. :|

 

[Multiply]

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what have this planet evolved to? "Instant SPEED"........... once again i need to explain the obvious. Instant= no time,
speed = actual movement with time. In other words those words dont fit together

I'm pretty certain everyone proceeded in this thread with the idea that instant speed simply means moving insanely fast. Not literally instant.

 

[RuckenTM]

I'm pretty certain everyone proceeded in this thread with the idea that instant speed simply means moving insanely fast. Not literally instant.

If you ever wonder if time is 'without' at any given subject. Then, sincerely you don't understand the concept of time itself. Regards to the said, I did also proceed with the notion "instantly fast" as to the opposed.

Edit: Unless you have power over it, or rather can pause it which indeed is having power over it.

2nd Edit: Wouldn't that mean time within time? lol

 

[chopstickchakra]

Spawn portal 5 meters in diameter directly beneath speedster. Instant speed is useless with no surface to move on.

I'm not entirely sure what "instant" speed is but I've read enough speedster stuff to know super speed can grant you a flight equivalency so that may not work.

 

[Stant]

Ah, good point. Though Instant isn't without time. :|

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i know that humans prefer to use that word cause they dont care to determine the interval of speed/time ,light speed is just like a instant to us.....since we cant SEE it. but nonetheless. Time is the only thing you cant outrun from, some run towards it. While others run the opposite direction.

instant is too advanced for us since, its a matter of GODlike understanding. Instant truly means you are immune against time, you escape the bubble and then return to it.....thats exactly why instant is no specific time/speed unit. And shouldnt be used together with speed.

instant is the definiton of impossible. equal to the BIG bang

 

[RuckenTM]

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i know that humans prefer to use that word cause they dont care to determine the interval of speed/time ,light speed is just like a instant to us.....since we cant SEE it. but nonetheless. Time is the only thing you cant outrun from, some run towards it. While others run the opposite direction.

instant is too advanced for us since, its a matter of GODlike understanding. Instant truly means you are immune against time, you escape the bubble and then return to it.....thats exactly why instant is no specific time/speed unit. And shouldnt be used together with speed.

instant is the definiton of impossible. equal to the BIG bang

Now, you should just stop posting. I'm sure everyone understands. Thank you. :|