Sasuke vs Gai, Obito, Kakashi, Minato

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RSM Kurama and Sasuke's PS both strike faster than Gai, but considering Gai is among one of the characters to disgustingly wank to, I can't be surprised at this response.

yeah too bad that Gai when strikes he bends space try again next time

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yeah too bad that Gai when strikes he bends space try again next time

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Lol what an idiotic twit. When Gai strikes he doesn't bend space. When Gai uses Night Guy he bends space, and that's an attack that can't even put a dent on Sasuke's Susanoo let alone do anything worth mentioning.

Try again fanboy.
 

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Minato is never ever reacting to anyone stronger than Juubito. So, mad wankery when you say Minato can remotely react to Sasuke

Minato would be in Kurama avatar

non SM half Kurama tanked Juubi laser. SM complete version tanks PS Sword .
 

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No, they boost your existing power. That is fact. Weaker chakra being unable to boost far stronger chakra doesn't change the fact that the vice versa is true, so please don't mention it again.
Wtf ,you think of chakra boost as multiplier ,that isn't true ,with your logic jin madara would be boosted by KC ,stop.at best the difference would stay the same without being multiplied after both of them get the same massive boost.
For example ,say sasuke's chakra potency is 5 ,while obito's is 3
Give them both a rikudo chakra boost of the same potency ,and let's say this boost potency is 100 ,according to your view of boost as multiplayer ,then sasuke's chakra potency would be 5 x 100 =500( 5x stronger than rikudo chakra itself Lol),while obito's would be 3 x 100 =300
BS ,not just because both of sasuke and obito's chakra potency would be waaay stronger than rikudo chakra's potency ,but also the gap between their chakra potency would be much stronger than rikudo boost itself ,this doesn't make sense at all.

Except that's not what he says. I suggest you learn how to read the English language and not force your own nonsense assumptions on others. He feels IT MORE. He never said he feels more.

Both translations say the same damn thing in different words.
I already know what you mean ,you mean that "more" and "stronger"describes minato's feeling ,that doesn't change anything since there is no proof that minato's feeling got stronger or bigger because madara's rikudo chakra is more potent not because it is more .
That's exactly what you said. Sasuke and Kakashi's PS are equal because the chakra is equal. That is EXACTLY what you said. :lol.
I said their PS would be at the same level because their rikudo chakra potency are close to each other since there is no proof that hagromo chakra is stronger than that of JJ .Manga says otherwise anywayLol

And no, it was never stated that Obito's chakra strength rivals Rikudo Sennin's, only the amount and that's true because they both have the Juubi.
Lol ,are you implying that manga tries to say Obito+ Jiubi =Hagromo +Jiubi in terms of chakra amounts ,no way ,OFc manga meant Non jin hagromo chakra strength ,Obi to said"Don't underestimate the JJ power ,it is the same as the sage of six paths"he wasn't talking about chakra amount but chakra power

Rikudo is still FAR stronger though (or are you going to claim that he is equal too?), just how Madara is still FAR stronger than Obito.

Ofc,obito's chakra being on par with hagromo doesn't mean he is equal ,chakra amount and strength aren't every thing ,this is obvious.

And no, proving that Hagoromo's chakra>>>>Juubi's is irrelevant when we aren't comparing them. We are comparing an empowered Sasuke's chakra to an empowered Kakashi's chakra.
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But I expect you to keep on arguing retarded shit like "Juubito=JJ Hagoromo". :lol Fanboys never fail to make me cringe.
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Kaguya didn't have IT chakra in the past, she only had the chakra from the fruit, and she was stated to be superior to Hagoromo then, who is far superior to Madara. So no, she has everything to do with your point. That all Rikudo chakra is equal in strength.
Hagromo stated that she used IT in the past.


Except Kakashi=JJ Madara in chakra strength isn't a fact.
Manga logic .Madara has tons of what kakashi has though.

Kin and Gin are irrelevant to the point anyway.
They are the point ,if The chakra that left kuarma/hachibi maintained its potency despite being a portion of the whole chakra ,then there is no reason to think that the chakra that left madara has decreased in potency

Irrelevant for reasons already explained. Maybe if you took your head out of Kakashi's pants and actually read before you posted, you'd realize that no one ever claimed this.
If you really don't think that the potency of chakra that left madara hasn't decreased ,then why you think kakashi's chakra potency is far beyond madara or sasuke Lol

The bold is false. Them needing chakra to initiate Six Paths CT doesn't prove they lost that chakra for good, and the rest is irrelevant and doesn't even begin to prove your point. Sasuke's Susanoo changed in appearance and power after getting Hagoromo's power. Naruto's Avatar changed in appearance and power after getting Hagoromo's power. If they lost it, then it'd revert.
What makes you sure that their avatars had appearance change because of hagromo chakra not because the RSM/Rinningan ,sasuke stated that"Only the Susano created by my eyes can block IT" ,the appearance change can be because of Rinningan

1. Read the Manga, because getting the Juubi is what grants you Hagoromo's power in the first place. So yes, Obito obviously had Rikudo's chakra. So did Madara, and that's how Kakashi got it.

2. Irrelevant. Having all the Bijuu=/=Having the Juubi. The Juubi is all 9 Bijuu fused into one. Completely different entity than the 9 Bijuu separated. DB already states that RSM was a gift from Hagoromo, thus it came with his power just how Sasuke's Rinnegan came with the power he got. And and all talk about the seals containing all their power should cease.

It was already explained in Shikamaru hiden chapter 7

"The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well. In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails. In the last war, Obito had become a human pillar for the Ten Tails and gained chakra rivalling that of the Sage of the Six Paths. Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now. His ‘bad feelings’ were different from a normal human’s, and Sakura"
Naruto is human pillar for the power of the ten tails ,after reading this paragraph If you have average comprehension skills ,you would realise that naruto's sage power comes from him having a chakra of all biju ,Hagromo only called upon the biju
The rest isnt irrelevant in any way or form ,if sasuke has rikudo chakra ,his chidori would have been always black .
 
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I can't be asked to continue arguing with you morons. Let me get back to ignoring you.
 

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It was already explained in Shikamaru hiden chapter 7

"The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well. In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails. In the last war, Obito had become a human pillar for the Ten Tails and gained chakra rivalling that of the Sage of the Six Paths. Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now. His ‘bad feelings’ were different from a normal human’s, and Sakura"
Naruto is human pillar for the power of the ten tails ,after reading this paragraph If you have average comprehension skills ,you would realise that naruto's sage power comes from him having a chakra of all biju ,Hagromo only called upon the biju
lolololololololol
taking example of novel written by different writer to claim BS :lmao:
Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!

← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!
 

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lolololololololol
taking example of novel written by different writer to claim BS :lmao:

Yeah but it seems logic at least, Naruto 700 page 23 or 24 stated it was a side story of Naruto (the canon one) meaning centered on someone else but most likely canon.
 

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I can't be asked to continue arguing with you morons. Let me get back to ignoring you.

that is you, you can keep arguing with someone says BS like kunai can pierce AyIII for Whole pages but you can't argue with me for 3posts because you know you would get beaten as all my points is supported with Manga facts while you only got your opinion and twists.
thanks for saving my time anywayLol
 

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Yeah but it seems logic at least, Naruto 700 page 23 or 24 stated it was a side story of Naruto (the canon one) meaning centered on someone else but most likely canon.

what Logic :lol The same BS that has been spammed throughout the thread

he is using novel to debunk whatever kishi wrote in DB

Next he is going to claim only 10k shinobi died in 4th shinobi war despite manga stating half of 80k shinobi died on first day :lol becoz


The Five Great Shinobi Countries had lost roughly 10,000 shinobi…
10,000 shinobi were the victims of the Fourth Shinobi World War.
 

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lolololololololol
taking example of novel written by different writer to claim BS :lmao:

Novel is a part of naruto project ,not to mention that the novel part doesn't contradict with manga or DB,people consider the last and boruto as canons though they weren't written by kishi, he only supervised .
 

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Novel is a part of naruto project ,not to mention that the novel part doesn't contradict with manga or DB,people consider the last and boruto as canons though they weren't written by kishi, he only supervised .

So and has nothing to do with Kishimoto and that part directly contradicts DB which clearly states both Sasuke's Rinnegan and Naruto's RSM are gift from Hagoromo
Kishi wasinvolved in both
he did review and corrected the Plot of the last multiple times and about BTM :lol


"From the 19th issue of Shuiesha’s Weekly Shonen Jump magazine reveals the latest animated film in the legendary Naruto series, Boruto: Naruto the Movie, opens in Japanese theaters on August 7, 2015! Naruto manga creator Masashi Kishimoto serves as chief production supervisor and has created the character designs for the movie. Kishimoto-sensei also played a role in writing the script alongside Ukyo Kodachi, who has worked on other anime (Chaos Dragon, Neppu Kairiku Bushi Road)."
 
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So and has nothing to do with Kishimoto and that part directly contradicts DB which clearly states both Sasuke's Rinnegan and Naruto's RSM are gift from Hagoromo
Kishi wasinvolved in both
he did review and corrected the Plot of the last multiple times and about BTM :lol


kishi is the supervisor of the novel as well and it is apart of the new era project just like Boruto and the last

hagromo called the biju by the way
 
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kishi is the supervisor of the novel as well and it is apart of the new era project just like Boruto and the last
htttp:/ naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Project
lol Naruto wiki
hagromo called the biju by the way
WTF As far as i remember 6 Bijuus gave him their chakra on own will against Obito and other 2 were give to him by Obito :lol
DB IV comes after kakashi and sasuke revealed PS
so DB still didn't take it in consideration so how is it such a big deal rather than trying to boot polish a novel :lol
 

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what Logic :lol The same BS that has been spammed throughout the thread

he is using novel to debunk whatever kishi wrote in DB

Next he is going to claim only 10k shinobi died in 4th shinobi war despite manga stating half of 80k shinobi died on first day :lol becoz


The Five Great Shinobi Countries had lost roughly 10,000 shinobi…
10,000 shinobi were the victims of the Fourth Shinobi World War.

I meant what Shikamaru said was logic :) At least.
 

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lol Naruto wiki

WTF As far as i remember 6 Bijuus gave him their chakra on own will against Obito and other 2 were give to him by Obito :lol

so DB still didn't take it in consideration so how is it such a big deal rather than trying to boot polish a novel :lol

wiki didn't Make it up, the novels are part of the new era project and were illustrated by kishi himself, all websites say that, too busy to get you all of it but here is another one


yup but hagromo by somehow was able to summon the biju Themselves

you debunked the novel because of a numerical mistake though the DB is filled with alote of mistakes yet it is still reliable for some extent
 
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