Nb let's set the record straight dose sasuke ...

[unknownvillain1254]

Dude, Karin said that V2 Raikage had bijuu lvl chakra and since then Sasuke recieved Ems and half of Hagoromo's chakra and now that he's an adult at his peak his chakra amount is ridiculous second only to Naruto's. Also, it depends on how much chakra you think hagoromo had. Does hagoromo have more chakra than the kyuubi? Because Sasuke has HALF of his chakra.

Well to be honest hagoromo doesn't have more chakra then the nine tails remember can literally b**** slap all the other tail beast easy ish remember minato who doesn't have a tenth of the 9 tail power split it in half and seal it twice and he doesn't even jman chakra lvl

and is not like sage and he is brother beat it into submission (like the raikage did) they seal together

 

[Seventh Sama]

He has hashirama dna. That'd give him a big boost in chakra anand sasuke has half of hagoromo's yin chakra. His chakra pool is obviously bijuu level but I doubt it's on kurama's lvl of chakra.

 

[itsxtrayy]

She also said she never felt chakra like kisame's before, does that mean that kisame>>>>bijuu? Raikage doesn't have bijuu chakra, besides karin no other person made any such comparison.

EMS is sasuke + itachi chakra. Considering how small itachi's reserves were, I don't think that makes sasuke's chakra reserves so much larger.

I didn't doubt how big his reserves are compared to other shinobi other than naruto.

My main point is most of the posts from sasuke fans I have seen in this thread are showing scans of hebi sasuke and claiming that his chakra is stronger than kyuubi.

As for hogoromo's chakra, measuring it isn't really possible, however I do believe he has more chakra than the kyuubi so I concede sasuke has more chakra than the kyuubi at this point, but not before rikudo power up and hebi sasuke certainly did not have more potent chakra than the kyuubi

It makes sense, I can't refute it.

The only thing Karin said about Kisame's chakra is that it was incredible not that she never felt anything like it:

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Raikage doesn't have "bijuu" chakra, but his amount is on bijuu lvl's just like Kisame's and Naruto's are:

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Karin is the best non sage mode/kyuubi sensor in the manga with a unique sensing technique her conclusions are reliable.

We'll indra's chakra was defintely stronger than the kyuubi's and the uchiha clans whole thing was that they had really powerful chakra so it's possible hebi Sasuke's chakra was stronger than the kyuubi's it really depends on how the transmigrant thing works.

One last thing, Sasuke's chakra has probably grown the most out of anyone in the series. Remember in part 1 he could only use chidori twice and he was completely out of cakra, but at the beginning of part 2 he was already spamming it. His reserves grew immensely in those two years and Ems Sasuke was spamming what Ms Sasuke couldn't. I'd say if they never got power-ups and Sasuke reached his prime as Ems (which was stated he would surpass Madara) he'd probably still have bijuu lvl chakra like Kisame and Raikage. Ems Madara fought for a whole day Sasuke would probably be similar:

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[The Demon Hawk]

No need to worry, it was a misunderstanding on my part. The issue has been solved

Okay, bro.

lol calm down kid we all know sasuke is one of the strongest

Yeah, obviously everyone knows that. And I wasn't addressing that anyway...

 

[Shroud]

I WASNT TALKING ABOUT Naruto's CHAKRA I WAS TALKING ABOUT SASUKES I WAS ASKING IF HE MEANT HALF OF ThE FULL NINE TAILS CKAKRA OR HALF OF THE NINE TAILS CHAKRA IN NARUTO

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Well to be honest hagoromo doesn't have more chakra then the nine tails remember can literally b**** slap all the other tail beast easy ish remember minato who doesn't have a tenth of the 9 tail power split it in half and seal it twice and he doesn't even jman chakra lvl

and is not like sage and he is brother beat it into submission (like the raikage did) they seal together

WTF? Hagoromo directly inherited his chakra from the Juubi. So obviously, his chakra quality and quantity will be on par with the Juubi, which means it is greater than any Bijuu including Kurama.

And the rest of your post makes no sense at all.

He has hashirama dna. That'd give him a big boost in chakra anand sasuke has half of hagoromo's yin chakra. His chakra pool is obviously bijuu level but I doubt it's on kurama's lvl of chakra.

I'm not objecting to this, but can you provide explanation of how Hashirama's DNA plays a part in boosting Sasuke's chakra? How does Sasuke even have Hashirama's DNA?

 

[Gerkak]

The only thing Karin said about Kisame's chakra is that it was incredible not that she never felt anything like it:

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Agreed.

Raikage doesn't have "bijuu" chakra, but his amount is on bijuu lvl's just like Kisame's and Naruto's are:

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Karin is the best non sage mode/kyuubi sensor in the manga with a unique sensing technique her conclusions are reliable.

Fair enough. I wouldn't say she was the best since her range is only 10 km+ and has no feats of sensing between dimensions like base obito does.

We'll indra's chakra was defintely stronger than the kyuubi's and the uchiha clans whole thing was that they had really powerful chakra so it's possible hebi Sasuke's chakra was stronger than the kyuubi's it really depends on how the transmigrant thing works.

I still doubt it is, sasuke's chakra potency should bleed into his ninjutsu should it not? Why do rasengan/chidori clashes always end in draws. Why is it that he needed the curse mark to overpower itachi's own fire ball jutsu? Sasuke's chakra potency only began to approuch indra's when he acquired EMS not when he was hebi sasuke. Nothing in the manga to my knowledge ever suggests that sasuke had ore powerful chakra than a bijuu.

One last thing, Sasuke's chakra has probably grown the most out of anyone in the series. Remember in part 1 he could only use chidori twice and he was completely out of cakra, but at the beginning of part 2 he was already spamming it. His reserves grew immensely in those two years and Ems Sasuke was spamming what Ms Sasuke couldn't. I'd say if they never got power-ups and Sasuke reached his prime as Ems (which was stated he would surpass Madara) he'd probably still have bijuu lvl chakra like Kisame and Raikage. Ems Madara fought for a whole day Sasuke would probably be similar:

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How do you know madara had bijuu level chakra reserves? You do know that eye techniques are less chakra taxing than normal techniques right? This has been shown time and time again. E.g nagato and kisame, we know kisame has larger reserves than nagato yet his most powerful techniques can't match nagato's in scale and power. Madara lasting an entire day in battle is more of a sign of efficient and less taxing jutsu than sheer chakra reserves. Since to my knowledge, madara's reserves were never said to be bijuu level. This isn't to say they aren't very large because they definitely are, but how large is difficult to say.

 

[HENI]

Base Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto if Naruto didn't have bijuu chakra at all, just his own. So human chakra.. Sasuke > Naruto.

 

[Gerkak]

Base Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto if Naruto didn't have bijuu chakra at all, just his own. So human chakra.. Sasuke > Naruto.

Both received half of hogoromo's chakra.

Half of hogoromo>>full kyuubi.

Both of them have higher chakra than the kyuubi. Naruto has half hogoromo + sage mode and kyuubi while sasuke only has half of hogoromo chakra. As a result naruto can use more chakra taxing jutsu than sasuke.

To put it simply RSM naruto chakra reserves>>rinnegan sasuke chakra reserves.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

WTF? Hagoromo directly inherited his chakra from the Juubi. So obviously, his chakra quality and quantity will be on par with the Juubi, which means it is greater than any Bijuu including Kurama.

And the rest of your post makes no sense at all.



I'm not objecting to this, but can you provide explanation of how Hashirama's DNA plays a part in boosting Sasuke's chakra? How does Sasuke even have Hashirama's DNA?

No hagoromo inherited the juubi eyes only and if that's the case naruto should have nine tail lvl natural but he don't

That would also explained why he needs he bother to help seal it rite

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Fair enough. I wouldn't say she was the best since her range is only 10 km+ and has no feats of sensing between dimensions like base obito does.

Can you name any better sensor than her who is non-Senjutsu/non-Bijuu/non-Rikodou?

I still doubt it is, sasuke's chakra potency should bleed into his ninjutsu should it not? Why do rasengan/chidori clashes always end in draws. Why is it that he needed the curse mark to overpower itachi's own fire ball jutsu? Sasuke's chakra potency only began to approuch indra's when he acquired EMS not when he was hebi sasuke.

That's true. Initially, Sasuke's chakra potency was nowhere near Indra. It's pretty obvious and common sense that Sasuke wasn't born with Indra level chakra potency. It only approached Indra after maturing enough and gaining higher dojutsu.

Rasengan and Chidori were an even clash due to many factors. The power of the technique isn't solely reliant of the power of chakra. The nature of the technique also plays a very important role in determining that.

And Itachi's chakra was more potent than Sasuke's chakra because it was more matured than Sasuke and Itachi had a higher dojutsu which also empowers chakra. That's why Sasuke needed CM to match Itachi's fireball jutsu.

Nothing in the manga to my knowledge ever suggests that sasuke had ore powerful chakra than a bijuu.

Pre-Rikodou Sasuke did not have chakra power equal to a bijuu. But post-Rikodou Sasuke did. And even non-Rikodou Sasuke would have had equal power to a bijuu if his chakra was matured enough like Madara.

How do you know madara had bijuu level chakra reserves? You do know that eye techniques are less chakra taxing than normal techniques right? This has been shown time and time again. E.g nagato and kisame, we know kisame has larger reserves than nagato yet his most powerful techniques can't match nagato's in scale and power. Madara lasting an entire day in battle is more of a sign of efficient and less taxing jutsu than sheer chakra reserves. Since to my knowledge, madara's reserves were never said to be bijuu level. This isn't to say they aren't very large because they definitely are, but how large is difficult to say.

Eye techniques are not less chakra taxing than normal techniques. Actually, Uchiha's chakra potency is so great than they appear to be consuming less chakra. Nagato's chakra quality > Kisame's chakra quality as well.

@bold You're absolutely right. But lasting an entire day in battle is not the reason Madara's chakra reserves are comparable to a Bijuu. Actually, Hashirama compared half Kurama's chakra reserves to his own which implied he had around 50% Kurama chakra quantity. So Madara should have had at least 10-20% Kurama chakra quantity, which is safely Bijuu level.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

No hagoromo inherited the juubi eyes only and if that's the case naruto should have nine tail lvl natural but he don't

That would also explained why he needs he bother to help seal it rite

By what logic should Naruto have Kyuubi level chakra naturally?

And Hagoromo directly inherited chakra from Kaguya (Juubi). So he has Juubi level chakra quality and quantity, safely greater than any Bijuu in both departments.

He needs his brother to seal Kaguya (Juubi) because Yin and Yang seals were distributed between them.

 

[Gerkak]

Can you name any better sensor than her who is non-Senjutsu/non-Bijuu/non-Rikodou?

I did, obito. He can sesne chakra from other dimensions something karin was never shown to do. He even claimed he could find anyone.

That's true. Initially, Sasuke's chakra potency was nowhere near Indra. It's pretty obvious and common sense that Sasuke wasn't born with Indra level chakra potency. It only approached Indra after maturing enough and gaining higher dojutsu.

Nice to see you agree.

Rasengan and Chidori were an even clash due to many factors. The power of the technique isn't solely reliant of the power of chakra. The nature of the technique also plays a very important role in determining that.

Agreed.

And Itachi's chakra was more potent than Sasuke's chakra because it was more matured than Sasuke and Itachi had a higher dojutsu which also empowers chakra. That's why Sasuke needed CM to match Itachi's fireball jutsu.

Really, despite being a non transmigrant? Does that mean that shisui's chakra potency for example was more potent than hebi sasuke's as well? What do you mean by mature, as in itachi being more experienced?

Pre-Rikodou Sasuke did not have chakra power equal to a bijuu. But post-Rikodou Sasuke did. And even non-Rikodou Sasuke would have had equal power to a bijuu if his chakra was matured enough like Madara

I believe post rikudo sasuke has both stronger and larger reserves than any bijuu. As far as potency of chakra for a non rikudo sasuke that's not easy to say. No one knows how powerful indra's chakra was, it is an assumption to believe sasuke even with EMS could match someone who was the son of the sage himself.

Eye techniques are not less chakra taxing than normal techniques. Actually, Uchiha's chakra potency is so great than they appear to be consuming less chakra. Nagato's chakra quality > Kisame's chakra quality as well.

They are, it explains why amaterasu was able to mix with FRS in the right ratio despite the large chakra difference between KCM naruto and EMS sasuke. Sasuke's regular jutsu like chidori could never match the chakra of a FRS. Look at how powerful sasuke's chidori became when amplified by an eye technique like susanoo. I think this is enough evidence to show that while uchiha have strong chakra, eye techniques help a great deal in toning down the amount of chakra consumed.

@bold You're absolutely right. But lasting an entire day in battle is not the reason Madara's chakra reserves are comparable to a Bijuu. Actually, Hashirama compared half Kurama's chakra reserves to his own which implied he had around 50% Kurama chakra quantity. So Madara should have had at least 10-20% Kurama chakra quantity, which is safely Bijuu level.

I suppose so.

 

[Seventh Sama]

WTF? Hagoromo directly inherited his chakra from the Juubi. So obviously, his chakra quality and quantity will be on par with the Juubi, which means it is greater than any Bijuu including Kurama.

And the rest of your post makes no sense at all.



I'm not objecting to this, but can you provide explanation of how Hashirama's DNA plays a part in boosting Sasuke's chakra? How does Sasuke even have Hashirama's DNA?

In the viz translation. Kabuto implied he gave sasuke hashi dna and is it not common knowledge that hashi DNA gives one a boost in physical and chakra capabilities?

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke has half of the Rikudō Sennin's chakra (which allows him to travel through dimensions far away from Earth), but his chakra being Bijuu is in question?

It's really sad.

its NB. were idiocy is repeatedly spewed.

whats funny as other have highkighted is someone like v2 ay whose chakra was being put at bijju lv yet the chakra of the guy who can travel exteremely far dimensions and spam ps is not biju lv? same guy with half the chakra of the son of kaguya, same kaguya stated to have more chakra than the juubi. clowns everywere.

jjs, naruto those related to kaguya are the only ones with more chakra than him

 

[To Whatever]

I think his chakra control + it's potency makes his reserves seem massive. No one's ever commented on the size of his reserves and he did have his chakra refilled during the war arc by Naruto.


But who's to say? He may have as much chakra as Shukaku by now, if not, as much chakra as Madara had when he was edo'd. Onnoki did comment on the amount of stabilized chakra Madara was using for PS.

 

[Nick01]

Not as much as Naruto without Kurama.

 

[Warlocks]

am not sure but naruto and sasuke did get chakra form so6p if so6p has tail beast lvl chakra then both naruto & sasuke should have half of so6p chakra if they didnt get any then no

 

[WalksInShadows]

if Sasuke is stronger than the Fourth Raikage whose chakra lvls were stated to be near bijuu lvls, i'm beyond sure Sasuke is at those lvls if he has a PS. I definitely won't be going so far to say it's anything comparable to Kurama's chakra lvls though. That would be saying his lvls are near limitless, and it's been shown to be anything but that.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I did, obito. He can sesne chakra from other dimensions something karin was never shown to do. He even claimed he could find anyone.

I need scans to understand what you are talking about. And was that Pre-rikodou or Post-rikodou Obito?

Really, despite being a non transmigrant? Does that mean that shisui's chakra potency for example was more potent than hebi sasuke's as well? What do you mean by mature, as in itachi being more experienced?

Actually, due to being a transmigrant, Sasuke has innately larger and more powerful reserves as compared to Itachi at the same level. But as we already discussed, Sasuke's chakra gradually comes to Indra's level. So that means it's larger and stronger with respect to his age, but not necessarily the largest and strongest in the clan initially.

And while Itachi has lower and less powerful chakra reserves naturally, his progression is a lot greater compared to Hebi Sasuke.
1. Itachi had MS. A higher dojutsu is illustrative of larger and stronger chakra reserves.
2. As time passes, your chakra grows in quantity and quality, called chakra maturing, and considering Itachi was quite a bit older than Sasuke, his chakra was considerably more matured than Sasuke.
3. Honing of physical and mental capabilities result in increased physical and spiritual energies respectively resulting in a stronger and greater chakra. Itachi excelled in this as well.

So all these reasons combined put MS Itachi above Hebi Sasuke in chakra.

I believe post rikudo sasuke has both stronger and larger reserves than any bijuu. As far as potency of chakra for a non rikudo sasuke that's not easy to say. No one knows how powerful indra's chakra was, it is an assumption to believe sasuke even with EMS could match someone who was the son of the sage himself.

This has already been addressed. Sasuke's chakra is initially not Indra's level, it needs to fully mature to come to that level like Madara, and for that he has to reach adulthood at least. Even with EMS, Sasuke couldn't match Indra because his chakra wasn't matured enough.

They are, it explains why amaterasu was able to mix with FRS in the right ratio despite the large chakra difference between KCM naruto and EMS sasuke. Sasuke's regular jutsu like chidori could never match the chakra of a FRS.

Large chakra difference between KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke doesn't mean every technique they produce will also have a similarly large power difference.

Also, collaboration jutsu doesn't require same power from both sides.

Look at how powerful sasuke's chidori became when amplified by an eye technique like susanoo.

It wasn't amplified by Susanoo. It was amplified by Rikodou chakra and channeled through Susanoo.

I think this is enough evidence to show that while uchiha have strong chakra, eye techniques help a great deal in toning down the amount of chakra consumed.

As I explained, that's not really the case. Uchiha's superior chakra quality make it seem like their techniques are consuming less chakra. Eye techniques may consume comparatively less chakra, but not that big a margin. And for Uchihas in general, all their jutsu consume very little chakra due to their chakra quality.