Who would've won if Naruto and Sasuke fought at this level?

[KidGamer65]

Peak MS Sasuke would slaughter any Naruto who isn't War Arc.

 

[To Whatever]

Peak MS Sasuke would slaughter any Naruto who isn't War Arc.

Peak MS Sasuke lasted for like 4 seconds..

 

[KidGamer65]

Peak MS Sasuke lasted for 4 seconds..

True, but irrelevant.

 

[To Whatever]

True, but irrelevant.

Yes, peak MS Sasuke is irrelevant.

How can Peak MS Sasuke fight someone in 4 seconds when it took 2 for his Susanoo to peak + form and the remaining 2 for him to double over in pain and go blind.

The MS Sasuke that fought Danzo vs Naruto stands a better chance.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Naruto would win but it all depends on who runs out of chakra first

It depends on more than that. How would Naruto win?

You're basing this off an unexpected meet up.

i know right plus what is sasuke going to do about frog kata. He can't see it and knowing sasuke he won't be using susanoo straight away because Naruto isn't "strong" enough to see it

If you payed enough attention then you would have noticed i did it both ways, hence talking about how long Sage Mode last, how Sasuke could counter Flying RS, which Naruto can only be done in SM, etc....if i didn't give him prep time then i would never have mentioned that because it would be irrelevant.

Besides, should we always give Naruto prep time advantage & not Sasuke? That's one sided. If Naruto gets prep time then so does Sasuke, which means he preps up Kirin.

Yes, peak MS Sasuke is irrelevant.

How can Peak MS Sasuke fight someone in 4 seconds when it took 2 for his Susanoo to peak + form and the remaining 2 for him to double over in pain and go blind.

The MS Sasuke that fought Danzo vs Naruto stands a better chance.

He doesn't need MS to defeat SM Naruto. Sharingan Genjutsu is enough, as i mentioned in my first comment, which suppousedly was based on an unexpected meeting.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yes, peak MS Sasuke is irrelevant.

How can Peak MS Sasuke fight someone in 4 seconds when it took 2 for his Susanoo to peak + form and the remaining 2 for him to double over in pain and go blind.

The MS Sasuke that fought Danzo vs Naruto stands a better chance.

Well yeah, in a canon scenario. But in a hypothetical scenario he'd wreck.

MS Sasuke vs. Danzo can beat Pain Arc Naruto too though. High diff tho.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Well yeah, in a canon scenario. But in a hypothetical scenario he'd wreck.

MS Sasuke vs. Danzo can beat Pain Arc Naruto too though. High diff tho.

Neg Diff with Genjutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Neg Diff with Genjutsu.

If you senselessly wank and don't use common sense, sure. Neg diff.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

If you senselessly wank and don't use common sense, sure. Neg diff.

How is it wank when without the Kyuubi's assistance, Naruto has no counter to High Level Genjutsu?

 

[KidGamer65]

How is it wank when without the Kyuubi's assistance, Naruto has no counter to High Level Genjutsu?

Most high tiers who aren't Uchiha don't have a Dojutsu or a being that lets them break Genjutsu. If I used this nonsense logic, I'd be running around here saying nonsense like "Madara neg diffs Hashirama because lol Genjutsu".

Having Genjutsu=/=Being able to land it.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Most high tiers who aren't Uchiha don't have a Dojutsu or a being that lets them break Genjutsu. If I used this nonsense logic, I'd be running around here saying nonsense like "Madara neg diffs Hashirama because lol Genjutsu".

Having Genjutsu=/=Being able to land it.

I agree, Naruto doesn't have a counter to Genjutsu, but you're not factoring in Genjutsu to atleast give Naruto a fighting chance.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree, Naruto doesn't have a counter to Genjutsu, but you're not factoring in Genjutsu to atleast give Naruto a fighting chance.

Most high tiers who aren't Uchiha don't have a Dojutsu or a being that lets them break Genjutsu. If I used this nonsense logic, I'd be running around here saying nonsense like "Madara neg diffs Hashirama because lol Genjutsu".

Having Genjutsu=/=Being able to land it.

Read carefully this time. Your logic is basically: "Sasuke possess Genjutsu, thus anyone and everyone who doesn't have a partner automatically loses" while forgetting the fact that one actually has to be able to land Genjutsu before it can be effective.

 

[KesOnFire]

Naruto doesn't take a genius to know

common sense

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Most high tiers who aren't Uchiha don't have a Dojutsu or a being that lets them break Genjutsu. If I used this nonsense logic, I'd be running around here saying nonsense like "Madara neg diffs Hashirama because lol Genjutsu".

Having Genjutsu=/=Being able to land it.

Read carefully this time. Your logic is basically: "Sasuke possess Genjutsu, thus anyone and everyone who doesn't have a partner automatically loses" while forgetting the fact that one actually has to be able to land Genjutsu before it can be effective.

All it requires is eye contact. Are you suggesting Naruto won't make eye contact?

Naruto doesn't take a genius to know

common sense

Great explanation, you've explained nothing, & expect people to agree with you.

 

[KesOnFire]

Great explanation, you've explained nothing, & expect people to agree with you.

Do I need to explain anything here? :| If you deny then you deny the manga lol

 

[The Amazing Kaguya]

All it requires is eye contact. Are you suggest Naruto won't make eye contact?

Naruto and Sasuke have clashed several times during the manga.

Hospital rooftop
VOTE 1
Oro Hideout
Five Kage Summit bridge
VOTE 2


And not once has Sasuke ever used or tried to use genjutsu on Naruto. In fact, Sasuke has only ever used genjutsu in battle when he gets desperate. E.g Deidara, Bee, Danzo.

It's not something Sasuke is liable to use, even though he has it.

 

[KidGamer65]

All it requires is eye contact. Are you suggest Naruto won't make eye contact?
.

Fighting from long range and can sense the entire battlefield with Sage Mode alone? Yeah, not happening. EMS Madara vs. Hashirama, who wins? :lol. Don't use "Sasuke has Genjutsu so he automatically wins" as an argument when you won't do the same for EMS Madara and Hashirama.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Do I need to explain anything here? :| If you deny then you deny the manga lol

Obviously you need to do some explaining. Several people said Sasuke would win. Do you even know the limits of Sage Mode back then?

I posted the pages in my first comment, you'd probably be surprised.

Naruto and Sasuke have clashed several times during the manga.

Hospital rooftop
VOTE 1
Oro Hideout
Five Kage Summit bridge
VOTE 2


And not once has Sasuke ever used or tried to use genjutsu on Naruto. In fact, Sasuke has only ever used genjutsu in battle when he gets desperate. E.g Deidara, Bee, Danzo.

It's not something Sasuke is liable to use, even though he has it.

Sasuke didn't start using Genjutsu until in between Part one & two. He couldn't use it until he had the third tomoe. We shouldn't factor it out because he doesn't use it right away in battle.

He's used Genjutsu on multiple people, and even completely defeated people with it alone. Anyway, the fact that we have too 1) Give Naruto prep time so he starts the battle in SM, & 2) Are pretty much restricting Genjutsu says alot about who's the greater fighter & would most likely win.

Fighting from long range and can sense the entire battlefield with Sage Mode alone? Yeah, not happening. EMS Madara vs. Hashirama, who wins? :lol. Don't use "Sasuke has Genjutsu so he automatically wins" as an argument when you won't do the same for EMS Madara and Hashirama.

Hashirama obviously has some way to counter Genjutsu since he's faced Madara many times, & even defeated him, but it's not like Naruto has faced multiple Sharingan users who used Genjutsu on him which he was able to counter each time himself.

Genjutsu was shown to easily defeat those who couldn't counter, & Naruto himself can't counter. Keep in mind Sasuke even managed to get Danzo in Genjutsu without him even noticing until Sasuke revealed it, despite Danzo having decades of experience, known Uchiha all his life, and even had Sharingan for years, including Shisui's Ultimate Genjutsu. He was fully aware of Uchiha Sharingan Genjutsu, still got caught, yet Naruto doesn't?

Yeah, sure.

 

[KesOnFire]

Obviously you need to do some explaining. Several people said Sasuke would win. Do you even know the limits of Sage Mode back then?

I postes the pages in my first comment, you'd probably be surprised.

I don't need to becuz this thread has already been made and explained several times not my problem if you missed it. This is pathetic :|

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[Naruto X Hunter]

I don't need to becuz this thread has already been made and explained several times not my problem if you missed it. This is pathetic :|

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