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Is FK something that has to be activated? Isn't it the extension of force from a punch as to increase its range? Everything else can just be attributed to the strength SM gives you can it not? I also don't see why Jiraiya would take it easy or not have it his strongest punch when he was hyping the rinnegan and his opponent the entire fight.
Whether or not SM Jiraiya has frog kata, he could still easily overpower Preta in taijutsu.
Yes it did :lol as that means he could distract each one singularly, and easier to cut one off from the other, he didnt summon boss toads in the open area either. Im saying that animal path would have had enough time to summon something to stop his fall, or to block the katon or even just avoid it, not to mention he was flying towards preta path.
It has some implications that it merely needs to reach the ears to begin having effects. You can see their eyes going crazy in the manga I believe a few times as well.
Also Animal path showed signs of being physically affected by it
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Bottom line is SM Jiraiya can easily take out those paths by feats, and doesn't need Frog Song or boss summons to beat them. Maybe Frog Song does affect the target before putting them in genjutsu, but it's unclear if it actually affects their performance in battle and if it does, it's certainly to a minor degree. Now I'm going to move on from this since it's off topic.
Proof of this? It removes souls, pretty sure Kabuto was going to use it to remove the nine tails or something.
No he wasn't. It is called human path so it only works on humans.
Dai Endan = Fire and Oil correct? Of course its going to be stronger than Ma's katon but Ma's katon itself is also being combined with Oil basically meaning its the same exact strength with maybe a little added range.
It heats up the oil more making it hotter.
Yes that is what happens, giving Kakuzu the ability to merely harden his feet with Domu and come out unscathed, without walls to bottle it up the amount on the ground would get increasingly thin, and since Kakuzu's fuuton impacts the ground severely, he can easily clear it no matter of the element advantage it may once have had I think we both can agree an inch of goamon on the ground isn't somehow withstanding a natural disaster like fuuton.
In the end it does next to nothing, and okay Beans if he cancels the jutsu the purpose has been achieved, although I don't see how a COR is blocking his fuuton (raiton might rip through it honestly, could raikiri pierce that large rasengan?) or the fuuton that travels under, not to mention the combination. Jiraiya has much better defenses then that (summoning toad mouth,even his hair may protect him from base Katon) its a question of if he can do this in time.
1. The oil would melt right through his Domu hardened feet. Domu just hardens the user's skin, doesn't actually change the properties of the skin to make them immune to burns.
2. The reason Goemon piled up to make waves has nothing to do with it being used indoors. It's because they produce such a huge amount of oil so quickly that it piles up and makes waves faster than it can spread out, so yes, Kakuzu would fall right into a sea of burning oil and dies a terrible death. It takes time before it spreads out enough to whe
3. Fuuton does not beat Goemon. Goemon is Fuuton, Katon, and oil combined, with a sage mode enhancement and element advantage on top of that, and is an overall stronger jutsu. It kicking up rocks on the ground is irrelevant. If you really believe Kakuzu's fuuton will clear Goemon, I'm going to need some proof.
4. If he cancels the jutsu, there's still a bunch of oil on the ground and Kakuzu will fall in. Kakuzu's fuuton goes outward from a single source (the mask's mouth.) If Jiraiya is holding a shield in front of him that is much bigger than him, the fuuton will not hit him. Raiton will not rip through it because Gian=Raikiri. Raikiri is stronger than Chidori, but Chou Oodama Rasengan is way way way way stronger than ordinary Rasengan, and Chidori=Rasengan.
What? I said the fact that he used it twice is why Preta path was so caught up, not because that clone was continuously using it.
Oh. You may be right, but that has nothing to do with durability and you said my durability stat was off.
I don't see how Jiraiya who wasn't granted the durability SM Naruto had would "plow through" any of the attacks without any defenses.
He holds COR in front of him.
When does Rasengan explode?
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ribcage Susano'o tanked it, and Domu is around an average rib cage if not V1 Susano'o level by portrayl,maybe not Madara's.
All Rasengans explode [
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]. Madara's Susanoo did not tank it. In fact, it did the very definition of not tank it. In the scan you linked, Rasengan is boring through Susanoo in the bottom left panel. For that very reason Madara upgraded Susanoo to V2. Now if that Rasengan had exploded, the ribcage Susanoo would have been demolished. And this is base Naruto's COR, Jiraiya's has the Sage Mode enhancement to make it even stronger.
That still doesn't explain how exactly that COR is going to damage Kakuzu's hearts? It can throw him around all it likes but if its not physically damaging the heart then I don't see what its going to do. Are you arguing its going to actually "Obliterate" Kakuzu into nothing? Pretty sure he survived a RS which has a pretty large explosion in itself and something that actually slices the body due to his threads durability.
Kakuzu's hearts are less durable than Susanoo, so... that's the end of that discussion. Kakuzu
was killed by FRS. It took out two of his lives. It was literally so strong, that it killed him twice.
Then theres the fact that Jiraiya ISN'T that much faster than him, and if hes charging head first at him he can be caught by threads or hit by jutsu that he will certainly not be "plowing" through.
Yes he is that much faster than him. All that needs to be shown is this shunshin feat:
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Whereas...Shikamaru reacted to Kakuzu...from his blind spot... Jiraiya wouldn't be caught be threads or hit by jutsu if he's holding Rasengan in front of him.
Not really by feats again....Jiraiya was having trouble with the slower paths. Also Kakuzu was able to deal with Kakashi's speed whether they're on equal footing or not.
Read the feat I just linked you to.
The same toad army that was effortlesly avoided by a levitating Deva path? Kakuzu's hearts are quicker in the air and harder to damage with threaded bodies. They could dodge and weave enough to get them in range.
Good thing the toad army isn't here to actually kill off the hearts, but to just buy Jiraiya time.
:lol what is that sounds travels farther in the pipes? Jiraiya said "I have a plan" than specifically looked at the pipes
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and Pain had to listen and feel the vibrations within the pipes to figure out where he was
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meaning yes it was carried and the effects started earlier than usual.
So what? It's range is still enough to catch Kakuzu. As long as he can hear it, he gets caught.
This is true but I was assuming they would be within range, so they'd have to move back and then be put on the defensive for more attacks until they'd need to stop croaking to survive.
Kakuzu's fuuton can't be spammed
