[VS] Alive Minato vs Edo Itachi

[DrProof]

Is that why Itachi had to warn Bee where he was despite the fact that the sharingan can percieve muscle movement before it's even made? In other words, if Bee tracked Itachi and was about to react, there wouldn't of been any reason for Itachi to warn him. Which is why we didn't see Bee react until after Itachi warned him, and Bee replying as if he didn't have a clue that the GOAT shinobi was about to run his shit.

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[Lord Tywin]

Is that why Itachi had to warn Bee where he was despite the fact that the sharingan can percieve muscle movement before it's even made? In other words, if Bee tracked Itachi and was about to react, there wouldn't of been any reason for Itachi to warn him. Which is why we didn't see Bee react until after Itachi warned him, and Bee replying as if he didn't have a clue that the GOAT shinobi was about to run his shit.

Man oh man the GOAT disrespected the name of shinobi when he pulled out the Susanoo. He's not even ninja
But Bee's phrase tells us that he knew Itachi's location already

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Man oh man the GOAT disrespected the name of shinobi when he pulled out the Susanoo. He's not even ninja
But Bee's phrase tells us that he knew Itachi's location already

Itachi is the most ninja like character in the manga, lmao. You're drunk.

Couldn't find the whole page, but here is the Viz translation:

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Which adds up with the fact that Itachi didn't forsee any movement from Bee with his sharingan, explaining why he felt the need to warn Bee.

 

[Beans2]

Honestly, can't believe people are still claiming Itachi's shunshin + strike > instant teleportation + strike. That was obviously not Minato's top striking speed since he didn't have killing intent. When people like MS Obito can't even mentally react to Minato's strike, and SM Madara barely reacted to a FTG blitz, it's pretty obvious Minato could have killed him before he reacted.

 

[DrProof]

Honestly, can't believe people are still claiming Itachi's shunshin + strike > instant teleportation + strike. That was obviously not Minato's top striking speed since he didn't have killing intent. When people like MS Obito can't even mentally react to Minato's strike, and SM Madara barely reacted to a FTG blitz, it's pretty obvious Minato could have killed him before he reacted.

You must've not heard of Flying Thunder Crow..

There's a lot of confusion on this and i want to clear it up. It's probably our fault as Itachi fans. Lol we shouldn't have named it the FTC.

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The FTC a.k.a Flying Thunder Crow in action

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Chapter 580, pg. 13,14,15.

How it works:

Basically, when Itachi gets touched/stabbed/attacked by someone, his body bursts into few dozens of crows, which all of them carry a portion of his chakra.

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He has few dozens of crows which he can replace with his own physical body, like we see in the 2nd and 3rd pic(FTC in action section)
The crows dont need to gather in order to form Itachi's body, as we can see there are countless crows still around Kabuto while Itachi is blitzing Kabuto with his whole body.

Meaning, he can use this as defense, but he can use this as a technique to blitz the enemy, like we see in the 3rd picture.
Just like FTG can be used to teleport to a tree or other mark away from enemy, for defense, and then the kunai can be thrown behind enemy for blitz.

This is the controversial part. If you don't want to believe that it could be more effective in certain situations than FTG i suggest you stop reading. Best thing to do because the truth hurts.

Reasons why this is better than FTG in 1v1 battles

1. few dozen possible targets to replace(crows) > 1 kunai.

If there one of the crows scattered is nearer to enemy's back, he can pick that one to substitute it and blitz enemy from behind.
If one of the crows is under the enemy, he can pick that one and blitz him from below etc.

There are so many crows around that the enemy will have to watch every single side, even behind him, in order to correctly predict where Itachi is going to blitz from, and it is impossible to do so, even byakugan has a blind spot...

Whereas Minato can only throw so many kunai's around the battle field but he can only blitz enemy with only 1 kunai in the air.

2. The enemy can drop their guard after thinking they actually landed a hit on Itachi.

3. And due to many crows flying about, a perfect Sage got distracted, not because of landing a hit, but simply because the crows disturb the target.

4. Instead of cutting Kabuto's horn, he could've easily slit his throat, but Kabuto was not allowed to be killed, rather just subtly attacked. Therefore, Itachi couldn't slit his throat to kill him, in this category, FTC at the very least can provide openings as useful/deadly as FTG.

Conclusion:
Besides the mentioned points above, after seeing a perfect snake SM (user), which provides super-enhanced sensory abilities, got blitzed and easily could've get his throat slit, do you really think someone with normal(inferior) sensing abilities or sensing abilities provided by other SM(inferior) or one with none at all(Obito)cannot be blitzed by FTC?

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[Lord Tywin]

Itachi is the most ninja like character in the manga, lmao. You're drunk.

Couldn't find the whole page, but here is the Viz translation:

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Which adds up with the fact that Itachi didn't forsee any movement from Bee with his sharingan, explaining why he felt the need to warn Bee.

What part of susanoo is ninja like cuz?
smh I sometimes wonder what kind of manga I've read without Viz
But Bee was most likely distracted by Nagato summoning

 

[Great Master Minato]

Mad cause Sick Itachi neg-no diffs Base Minato?

What? You can't be serious! What am I reading? Is this really KG65?! :|

 

[KidGamer65]

Dusk Crow Genjutsu+Kunai Slash to the throat ends Namikaze's career.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Dusk Crow Genjutsu+Kunai Slash to the throat ends Namikaze's career.

Coming from someone who always said, Genjutsu won't land on Minato...what makes you change your opinion?

 

[KidGamer65]

Coming from someone who always said, Genjutsu won't land on Minato...what makes you change your opinion?

Because Itachi is god and Minato is a plebe.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Because Itachi is god and Minato is a plebe.

Now I'm pretty sure you're joking, welcome to the Itachism by the way :lol

 

[BLAZE]

Dusk Crow Genjutsu+Kunai Slash to the throat ends Namikaze's career.

:|:|:| okay :lol

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[Apêx1]

I am agreeing with you Apex.​

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Oh, I was unsure of which exclamation urgency you were talking about.

 

[Apêx1]

Honestly, can't believe people are still claiming Itachi's shunshin + strike > instant teleportation + strike. That was obviously not Minato's top striking speed since he didn't have killing intent. When people like MS Obito can't even mentally react to Minato's strike, and SM Madara barely reacted to a FTG blitz, it's pretty obvious Minato could have killed him before he reacted.

What the manga shows.. is what the manga shows. Either way, all people are trying to say is that Itachi is on a higher level of portrayal, nobody actually thinks he's faster then teleportation. However, Minato still needs to strike, and in both occasions someone much less intelligent then Itachi could anticipate Minato's location and counter. So why someone with Itachi's level of intelligence, kit, superior reaction speed and Sharingan can't do so is beyond me. "Pretty obvious he could've done so" is the most unsubstantiated claim you will ever make. You have literally nothing but your own opinion as evidence, so you can throw that claim back in the garbage. MS Obito was a child and MS Obito's feats are not Rinnegan Obito's given he was having slight trouble with Torune and Fu, and Konan was destroying him

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.. MS Obito is not very impressive, and child MS OBito is even less impressive. Then there's SM Madara reacting to Tobirama's Hirashin with no prior knowledge, Tobirama merely appeared and went for the hit, with Madara not even knowing there's a fight. Yet despite that Madara reacted to several Hirashin's from point blank. Not sure how this is a feat, because it seemed that he was reacting to Hirashin effortlessly.

@Proof FOH with that Itachi turns into crows shit lmaoo.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

What part of susanoo is ninja like cuz?
smh I sometimes wonder what kind of manga I've read without Viz
But Bee was most likely distracted by Nagato summoning

How does a single jutsu overshadow someones entire skillset and character..?

You can make that excuse, but then that just means Bee is extremely prone to being distracted and feinted. Plus, this doesn't change the fact that on the first occasion, Bee completely failed to track Itachi's shunshin, despite looking directly at him when it was used.

 

[Lord Tywin]

How does a single jutsu overshadow someones entire skillset and character..?

You can make that excuse, but then that just means Bee is extremely prone to being distracted and feinted. Plus, this doesn't change the fact that on the first occasion, Bee completely failed to track Itachi's shunshin, despite looking directly at him when it was used.

You only need one technique to ruin you forever U_U
In a straight up battle, Itachi ain't getting behind Bee. Not with Bee looking at him. But I believe Bee was extremely nerfed in that fight in CQC. Or it was Kishi's way of making Itachi that impressive in order for him to hang with Kabuto.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

You only need one technique to ruin you forever U_U
In a straight up battle, Itachi ain't getting behind Bee. Not with Bee looking at him. But I believe Bee was extremely nerfed in that fight in CQC. Or it was Kishi's way of making Itachi that impressive in order for him to hang with Kabuto.

Now... now. Let's not dance around what Kishimoto made evident. Itachi the GOAT>Little Bumblebee.

 

[Kagustuchi]

^^ Plot is never a valid excuse

 

[Forbidden Technique]

^^Better point those damn arrows elsewhere lad.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Now... now. Let's not dance around what Kishimoto made evident. Itachi the GOAT>Little Bumblebee.

Yep Kishi made it obvious that Kabuto>Itachi