Base adult naruto vs adult sasuke (without ems or ms or rinnengn) normal sharingan

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Just come to think of it what do yo guys think who will win between base Naruto and base sasuke if they fight I think both of them are equals but what do you guys think. Like chidori vs rasengen, equal normal fight skills,thunder clap vs rasenshuriken.
 

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Versus section is there for a reason
 

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Rinnengn Sasuke is base Sasuke.
 

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Base sasuke is sasuke in boruto naruto the movie without amenotejikara and susanoo, and that guy's taijutsu was on par with RSM and whatever momoshiki's mode is. So I bet with sharingan, sasuke has an advantage. Naruto's not too good with genjutsu, he may have gotten better but so has sasuke. Kurama is restricted so that's out of the question. Base naruto vs sasuke would be a pretty good fight, but sasuke has an edge, seeing as naruto relies on mostly sage and bijuu chakra in most battles.
 

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hmmmmm so this is the powers of thread
 

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Naruto low difficulty. He can use his strongest moves in base. Sasuke most hax moves are with dojutu.
 

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Base sasuke is sasuke in boruto naruto the movie without amenotejikara and susanoo, and that guy's taijutsu was on par with RSM and whatever momoshiki's mode is. So I bet with sharingan, sasuke has an advantage. Naruto's not too good with genjutsu, he may have gotten better but so has sasuke. Kurama is restricted so that's out of the question. Base naruto vs sasuke would be a pretty good fight, but sasuke has an edge, seeing as naruto relies on mostly sage and bijuu chakra in most battles.

Wrong, Sasuke's taijutsu appeared to be equal to Naruto who wasn't using RSM's abilites. You need to understand that being in RSM doesn't automatically mean he is using those powers to his advantage. IE: Naruto never used frog fu once during the movie or RSM to enhance his speed.

Naruto does possess defensive genjutsu skills. When he faced Itachi in the beginning of part 2 Itachi was forced to change plans to defeat Naruto in genjutsu. He did that by attacking Naruto's emotions. Itachi doesn't waste movement. He wouldn't change plans if his current plan is working.

- Itachi placed Naruto in a genjutsu -
- Naruto remembers his training to defeat genjutsu -
- Naruto relies on his training and starts defeating the genjutsu -
- Itachi comments on Naruto's growth and switch his strategies - to
- Itachi's new plan involves attacking Naruto's emotions - to
- because Naruto didn't stay calm and rely on his training he couldn't defeat the genjutsu -

Sasuke relies on his eye power more. During Naruto the Last Naruto used SM/BM only 20% of the time. At the end of the gaiden Sasuke fought the Shins with his eye power (susanoo) and while Naruto fought the Shins in base mode.

I say Naruto wins. At the end of the Bolt movie base Naruto created the strongest rasengan ever. It defeated momoshiki's strongest jutsu.
 

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Sasuke blitz Naruto needed a cloak just to keep up with him
 

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Sasuke neg diffs. He was matching RSM Naruto in every speed category and he was matching him in the strength category too. He'd babyshake Base Naruto. Rasengan Barrages are evaded. Clone swarms are obliterated. Match ends with Sasuke putting his sword in Naruto's chest.

Wrong, Sasuke's taijutsu appeared to be equal to Naruto who wasn't using RSM's abilites. You need to understand that being in RSM doesn't automatically mean he is using those powers to his advantage. IE: Naruto never used frog fu once during the movie or RSM to enhance his speed.

The amount of reaching and denial in this statement is cringe worthy to say the least.
 

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Do they have rikudo chakra? If so Sasuke wins if not Naruto wins.
 

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It's either a tie or naruto wins high dif.. nőt sure.
 

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Is this a Sasuke without rinnegan and sharingan activated? If so Naruto wins
 

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Sasuke neg diffs. He was matching RSM Naruto in every speed category and he was matching him in the strength category too. He'd babyshake Base Naruto. Rasengan Barrages are evaded. Clone swarms are obliterated. Match ends with Sasuke putting his sword in Naruto's chest.



The amount of reaching and denial in this statement is cringe worthy to say the least.

Just because Naruto is in RSM doesn't mean he is using RSM to enchance his speed. It doesn't work that way. The war proved that. Everything I posted is supported by facts.

When Naruto first gained KCM, Yamato told him he must exercise control over his power - -

When KCM Naruto faced A the manga showed us he can use different levels of speed - -

KCM Naruto became faster than A using his fastest speed - - BM Naruto was even faster - - Kakashi nor Gai was able to see Naruto's movement. They were both amazed by Naruto's speed. Even though Naruto was that fast we don't see him use those levels of speed the entire time even though he was in KCM/BM most of the war.

When Naruto attack Obito in this scene the allies are moving at the same speed as Naruto - - Even with the chakra shroud they wouldn't become faster that A. Here Naruto is in BM yet the allies is moving just as fast as Naruto - - Other example proving have BM activated doesn't mean he is using it to enhance his speed.

So, If you want to claim Sasuke is as fast as RSM Naruto using RSM to enhance his speed then you need facts supporting your statement. The Bolt movie does't support that. But, the movie does support the fact Naruto was not using his RSM powers during their taijutsu battle. Naruto didn't use frog fu (one of the strongest taijutsu styles) even though he was fighting an opponent where taijutsu is required. Naruto didn't use RSM to enhance his strength. During Naruto the Last Naruto's physical attacks were so powerful he completely destroyed the ground underneath him. His attack was parallel with the ground. That was when he was using partial chakra mode.

The gaiden, which occurred right before the movie, gives use a good understanding of Naruto's and Sasuke's speed. Base Naruto was fast enough to save Sarada and Chocho - to - He moved Chocho out of the path of Shin's attack and reached Sarada before she fell to ground and caught her.

Yet, Sasuke wasn't even fast enough to move his daughter out of the path of Shin's blades. He was forced to use his body as a shield - - If Sasuke was as fast as RSM Naruto using his power to enhance his speed than Sasuke would have easily evaded that attack.

Naruto wins. It would be a hard battle, but he would still win. Sasuke isn't going through Naruto's clones. In fact Naruto doesn't fight that way any more. He only uses clones if they are required.
 

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Just because Naruto is in RSM doesn't mean he is using RSM to enchance his speed. It doesn't work that way. The war proved that. Everything I posted is supported by facts.

When Naruto first gained KCM, Yamato told him he must exercise control over his power - -

When KCM Naruto faced A the manga showed us he can use different levels of speed - -

KCM Naruto became faster than A using his fastest speed - - BM Naruto was even faster - - Kakashi nor Gai was able to see Naruto's movement. They were both amazed by Naruto's speed. Even though Naruto was that fast we don't see him use those levels of speed the entire time even though he was in KCM/BM most of the war.

When Naruto attack Obito in this scene the allies are moving at the same speed as Naruto - - Even with the chakra shroud they wouldn't become faster that A. Here Naruto is in BM yet the allies is moving just as fast as Naruto - - Other example proving have BM activated doesn't mean he is using it to enhance his speed.

So, If you want to claim Sasuke is as fast as RSM Naruto using RSM to enhance his speed then you need facts supporting your statement. The Bolt movie does't support that. But, the movie does support the fact Naruto was not using his RSM powers during their taijutsu battle. Naruto didn't use frog fu (one of the strongest taijutsu styles) even though he was fighting an opponent where taijutsu is required. Naruto didn't use RSM to enhance his strength. During Naruto the Last Naruto's physical attacks were so powerful he completely destroyed the ground underneath him. His attack was parallel with the ground. That was when he was using partial chakra mode.

The gaiden, which occurred right before the movie, gives use a good understanding of Naruto's and Sasuke's speed. Base Naruto was fast enough to save Sarada and Chocho - to - He moved Chocho out of the path of Shin's attack and reached Sarada before she fell to ground and caught her.

Yet, Sasuke wasn't even fast enough to move his daughter out of the path of Shin's blades. He was forced to use his body as a shield - - If Sasuke was as fast as RSM Naruto using his power to enhance his speed than Sasuke would have easily evaded that attack.

Naruto wins. It would be a hard battle, but he would still win. Sasuke isn't going through Naruto's clones. In fact Naruto doesn't fight that way any more. He only uses clones if they are required.

That is exactly what it means. You don't wear a cloak only for it to do nothing to your physical abilities, nor can Naruto choose what the cloak enhances and what it doesn't enhance. If the cloak is on, he's using Kurama's/Rikudo's chakra. If he's using said chakra, then he obviously gets stronger. Nothing you posted is supported by anything but an misunderstanding of the Manga.

1. Yamato told him to control his chakra so that he doesn't run into a wall when he uses Shunshin. Literally has nothing to do with Naruto being able to choose whether or not it powers him up, because he can't. That's a baseless assumption, and a hilariously ridiculous one at that. This point doesn't even refer to the power up as a whole, so mentioning it was useless.

2. Which has to do with gaining control of his speed like Yamato mentioned, and nothing to do with Naruto being able to "turn off" his power up. I almost don't want to read the rest since I know it will follow this same trend.

-BM moving faster than KCM would be because BM>KCM, not because Naruto can turn off his power up.

-Naruto wasn't using Shunshin in any of those scans, nor were they moving as fast as him in the 628 scan. All you see is them all charging at Obito, and Naruto was the closest. In the 617 scan, they combined into one giant bird, so of course they'd be moving the same speed, and again, Naruto didn't use Shunshin.

So once again, if you want to claim that Naruto can turn off his power up, please do it by bringing evidence and/or proof that actually relates to your claim. Because all the evidence you provided for your claim has to do with Naruto gaining control of his speed, and Naruto not using Shunshin at all. Even if I bought into this nonsense theory, then I'd have to ask myself why Naruto would turn on his cloak but not use any of it's enhancements.
Naruto's punch against Toneri was that powerful because he focused his transformation into his fist. I suggest you watch that movie again, because that was far from a regular partial transformation when it comes to strength.

What an ridiculously ingenious comparison you are making.

1. Good job using a Sasuke who had exhausted a buttload of his chakra as a reference for how strong a full powered Sasuke should be.
2. Good job using Naruto evading a completely different attack than the one Sasuke intercepted.

All you are showing me is that weakened Sasuke was too slow to move Sarada out of the way of an attack, and that said attack is faster than Kid Shin's attack. (Which should be obvious since one uses the Dojutsu and the other is just Shin swinging his blade)

Sasuke obliterates Naruto. Not debatable if you don't try and dance around what occurred in the Boruto movie.
 

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Normal sharingan isn't base for one, but adult Sasuke wrecks either way. Adult naruto is rather lackluster.
 

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Being completely honest i think it could go either way high diff. Naruto is rusty but sasuke only has 1 arm so blocking might be hard without susanoo. If sasuke can blitz naruto with his sword then he wins if not it goes either way high diff.
 
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