Who got trolled the hardest in the series?

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To me its between Sakura and Hinata. Both pretty much failed at almost to all of their goals.

Sakura:

-Didn't catch up to Naruto and Sasuke like she wanted.
-Kept being the dismal in distress despite planning to change that.
-Had no role in Sasuke's redemption despite promising so.
-The guy she was chasing after through the entire series isn't around her in the end.

Hinata:

-Never reclaimed her title as heiress and instead joined the Uzumaki Clan. Despite her nindo of never giving up.
-Despite her goal to be stronger, she is the only one out of the K11 to remain a Chunin.

Who do you think got trolled the hardest? Madara and Kaguya got trolled pretty hard as well. I don't even have to explain those two.
 
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Orochimaru. He got troll by Kishi the hardest to the point being a Caitlyn Jenner of NV.

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Anyone who isn't Sasuke, Naruto, or Kakashi.
 

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Madara Uchiha. He was hyped up to be this massive threat and equal to Hashirama, but in the end, he got played. He lost countless times to Hashirama, haven't even once beaten him as Indra's reincarnation. But Sasuke as Indra's reincarnation beat Naruto like 3-4 times in the series until VOTE 2, which ended in a nasty draw. Madara couldn't even beat Hashirama in Edo with the Rinnegan.

Plus, he kept getting owned after becoming the Juubi Jin, which was disappointing.
 

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lol is this your version of "isn't around her"?

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Those 2 are not anywhere near the worst, they fulfilled many of their goals. I would say Madara.
 

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Hinata's goal was never to be a heiress. Nor was it to be stronger. (Well actually that is very subjective. We have no clue to what extent she wanted to be stronger?)

If anything Sakura failed more out of the two.
 

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1. Sakura -- Got shit on the whole series. Even Kishi admits it was hard to find ways to include her. That's not a good sign for a "main heroine." He really needed to give her a backstory, make it relevant to the overall plot, and give her multiple arcs. People can't even imagine that, with her current implementation, and he wrote himself into a corner where fans wouldn't tolerate "Sakura-heavy" chapters, so eventually he was stuck with basically "Yeah, sorry, she's in this chapter, but look, there's also a Susano'o!"

2. Orochimaru -- This villain never got a proper arc; he was sort of a red herring. He was always "defeated" in unsatisfactory ways after the Akatsuki had completely overshadowed him as a threat/villain. However, later on, I liked the "not quite a villain anymore" Orochimaru, although his character development needed to be explained more. I think being humbled by Sasuke/Itachi, combined with witnessing Kabuto's failed attempt to live out Oro's philosophy, and finally learning about Jiraiya's death, all made Orochimaru question the value of his previous goals.

3. Madara; he was one of the best-developed villains in the series (either tied or second to Obito). He was a far better final villain than BZ/Kaguya, and inexplicably got backstabbed, despite having Sage Mode sensory powers. Guy's Evening Elephant couldn't punch through his back, but BZ's finger-jab went straight through his heart. That's plot.

4. Kabuto; he just got rekt by Izanami, the ultimate "Mind **** no Jutsu," and came back an entirely different person.

5. Killer Bee; he was a major player in the War Arc and the battle against Obito until the Shinobi Alliance showed up, and then he was suddenly basically written out of the series. Kishi really had to come up with lame ways for him to "contribute" while not stealing any of Naruto's thunder. Probably should have just given Bee an epic death.

6. Kaguya; defeated by a single "tag" from Naruto and Sasuke. Not really "trolled," but it's a lame way to go. She's obviously invincible, otherwise. Only other way to stop her is to somehow steal her chakra.

7. Nagato; not only was he a pawn (of a pawn of a pawn of a pawn), but his whole ideology was refuted by a very brief encounter with Naruto, who used some very vague logic and TnJ. Naruto did a much more convincing TnJ against Obito, and the TnJ in that case was built up over many chapters of interaction and explanation. Against Nagato, it was far less well-written, and felt somewhat unsatisfying. It was obviously meant more to develop Naruto's character and set things up for the War Arc and the conflict with Sasuke; Nagato himself was written off as a plot device at that point.

8. Suigetsu; really has no reason to exist after Sasuke joins up with Tobi. Suigetsu never got the swords, and in any case we never will get to see him use them. His character/goal were just forgotten. I think Kishi intended to do more with Taka; they should have been involved more in the early War Arc (Sasuke's absence was too long). Suigetsu should have somehow been there when the Seven Swordsmen fight happened. In fact, that entire fight needed to be extended, rather than being off-panel. I'd rather have seen that, and skipped the abomination that was the Kin Gin bros.

9. Hanzo was also trolled. Obviously it's impossible to see him defeating the Sannin with that level of skill. They were either weak as hell at that point, or Hanzo was trolled. There's no way Mifune is actually too fast for Hanzo to use any jutsu.

10. Edo Minato; never used that big jutsu he kept hyping, and eventually had to spend several chapters fighting without any arms. Like, why the hell did Kishi need to take Minato's arms?! He was already a balanced character; he couldn't really contribute that much to the fight outside of Bijuu Mode, and was better off giving that chakra to BSM Naruto.

11. The Bjuu; they're a bunch of badass chakra monsters. They were freed from Obito, only to be caught by Madara within a few chapters.. and then freed from Kaguya, only to immediately be placed under Sasuke's Genjutsu. Really sad day to be a Bijuu.
 

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Madara- Did everything he wanted, still got 1shotted by Zetsu
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lol is this your version of "isn't around her"?

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Those 2 are not anywhere near the worst, they fulfilled many of their goals. I would say Madara.

You're forgetting all the years he ignored for no good reason(Black Zetsu already told Sasuke what the army was for). He leaves in the end because Kaguya's enemy is still out there. The novel went further in depth with it.

What other goals did those two have?

Hinata's goal was never to be a heiress. Nor was it to be stronger. (Well actually that is very subjective. We have no clue to what extent she wanted to be stronger?)

If anything Sakura failed more out of the two.

Those were her goals. Reread her fight with Neji.
 
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1..Madara....by BZ
2. Nagato...Twice
 

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Not even close.

Madara, Minato, TObirama, Itachi etc
 

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You're forgetting all the years he ignored for no good reason(Black Zetsu already told Sasuke what the army was for). He leaves in the end because Kaguya's enemy is still out there. The novel went further in depth with it.

What other goals did those two have?

He did not ignore her, he was away and for a good reason, but that is besides the point. The extra content in the Novel is not canon and even so it does not mention that sasuke leaves the village. The pics I posted are the last canon appearances of Sasuke and Sakura and they are together. Seems like Kishi likes to to end it with complete family portrayals, he did so in gaiden as well.
 
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He did not ignore her, he was away and for a good reason, but that is besides the point.

He spend half of that time to discover something that he already knew.

The extra content in the Novel is not canon and even so it beer mentions that sasuke leaves the village. The pics I posted are the last canon appearances of Sasuke and Sakura and they are together. Seems like Kishi likes to to end it with complete famiies, he did so in gaiden as well.

What makes you think he is not going to leave? His mission isn't done.
 

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He spend half of that time to discover something that he already knew.



What makes you think he is not going to leave? His mission isn't done.

There is nothing that makes me think he will leave.

Nowhere does it mention that his mission is still on going or give any reference to it, and the series is done. With Sarada saying that her father is back home before we saw him with his fam in the end.
 

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There is nothing that makes me think he will leave.

Nowhere does it mention that his mission is still on going or give any reference to it, and the series is done. With Sarada saying that her father is back home before we saw him with his fam in the end.

>Common sense. The villains in the movie are Kaguya's underlings, not the enemy she was threaten(they are not even stronger than her) by whom Sasuke was going looking for.
 

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Anyone who isn't Sasuke, Naruto, or Kakashi.

Madara. He covered more ground than almost anyone, deceived & manipulated almost everyone, got what he want & then shanked by a "Plot-Armor-No-More-Jutsu"
 
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