why are people downing Pain

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Pains stomps MS Sasuke
 

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Gonna need some proof that he'll be able to do that,

No need for that. It's not a very difficult move.

& you completely ignored my post regarding the hawk dodging it.

No, I didn't. I replied to that.

It is irrelevant, because your just tacking on shit to say.

You're choosing to be ignorant. What can I do?

Smh. If Naruto threw the Odama Rasenshuriken 200 meters away from one page & it hit them both the next page it's fast end of story. Neither even knew it was coming.

Ignorance and BS at its finest. Where did you get the "200 meter" figure? LOL. And someone who calculates time from manga scans (@bold) can be safely ignored.

@underlined They saw it, alright. Hashi was praising Naruto for what he was doing. Just trying to use BS to support your argument...

addressed above, this is besides War arc SM naruto vs ms sasuke

It's not. Madara couldn't try to escape because he was binded.

quite changing the subject

How is including something the same as changing the subject? Damn.

MS Sasuke has no Susanoo that would let him live that Odama FRS.

Firstly, Sasuke doesn't necessarily need Susanoo to counter Odama FRS. Secondly, "Susanoo can't let him live Odama FRS" is only your assumption.

A regular senpo FRS destroys versions 1-3

You have no proof for that.

And don't you dare bring Danzo's attack here. Danzo's attack was a concussive attack, not a pin type attack like FRS. Plus, Danzo's attack applied pressure on that area and forced Sasuke to lose control. It didn't literally rip open the Susanoo.

your blatantly denying the manga here pal.

You are doing pretty much the same thing.

Literally one page flip & they were hit. Stop denying it

very Next page bruh

Again, that's stupid. No one but you calculates time using pages.

Bruh you didn't show me anything! You just said "Sasuke will maneuver in the air" That's some BS!

Everything is BS if it does not come to terms with your mindset...

The hawk will maneuver past the FRS. It's not a difficult move to pull off in any sort of way.

Especially if the FRS is aimed at the ground, it'll explode on impact & here is the AOE to shut up your nonsense.

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I'm well aware of that. The thing is in air, it WON'T explode on impact so worrying about blast range is not needed.

Once again you failed to provide any proof.

What proof do you need for such a simple and logical thing? The hawk can fly so it can easily get out of the toads range. What's so brainstorming in that?

He's not gonna know which Naruto is the real Naruto. & SM Naruto bunshin throwing FRS, Cho odama Rasengan

Knowing which Naruto is the real Naruto is not important at all. The FRS creation will be disturbed regardless of Naruto or his clones create it. If Naruto or his clone dodges the Susanoo Arrow, they will disturb the creation of FRS while simultaneously wasting chakra, and if Naruto or his clone does not dodge it, Naruto will be killed while disturbing the creation of FRS and his clone will be removed while also disturbing the creation of FRS. So it doesn't matter whether Naruto or his clones make FRS.

& frog katas at him will keep him busy

Chidori Nagashi > Frog Kata

for his inevitable death by Odama FRS.

Imagination...

Please did you just say Susanoo arrow would cause Odama FRS to explode :lol The microscopic wind blades shit on it without enton. Come on

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, dude. Shooting a Susanoo Arrow at Odama FRS will make Susanoo Arrow the victim of Odama FRS wind blades thus saving Sasuke. Why is it so hard to understand?

Because Naruto's Fire power is much >>> Danzo's thus hI'm launching an offensive while needing breathing room is fallacious.

That isn't the reply to what I was asking.

Not before it's GG by Odama Rasenshuriken, also I'd like too see Susanoo tank .

LOL. What's that? A barrage of Odama Rasengans? Madara's similar Susanoo as Sasuke tanked Odama Rasengan, so Sasuke can do that same.

you provided no proof that'd work so it's merely a baseless counter.

All your counters are baseless much in the same way.

So you agree to that his only chance of winning is to run away? :lol Shit your making this easy on me man :lmao.

No, that's not what I meant. You're getting too excited to understand what I'm saying. I said Sasuke can waste Naruto's Sage chakra by this method, and make a fool out of him.

Winning is not difficult for Sasuke. If Naruto looks in Sasuke's eyes, he gets genjutsu'd. If he doesn't look in Sasuke's eyes, he gets Amaterasu'd (Amaterasu can't be sensed by SM). That's as simple as victory can get for Sasuke.

Not to mention this provides an opportunity for Naruto to gather more Natural Energy,

He can't summon more natural energy while he's still in Sage Mode.

summon his toad army + ma & Pa etc. Toad confrontation chant will get prepped, & that'll be GG.

Aoda + Amaterasu is enough counter for that.

You know aside from Odama FRS GG.

As if it can land...

Nope that's going by the manga, you like your fav to much to admit he's outclassed here.

I never said that.

You even believed he was equal with KCM Naruto! LOLOL

Yes, KCM Naruto >= MS Sasuke (blindness excluded). Sasuke is inferior in raw power, but he is on par when it comes to counters.
 

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MS Sasuke easily evades FRS. If the guy can evade and attack Ae in V1, then FRS is a walk in the park for him.
 

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Pain would destroy Sasuke he doesn't have a bijuu or senjutsu lol

MS sasuke is just an Uchiha half blind in way over his head
 

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Link me. I must've forgotten.

Link what. We've seen all the Paths talk to ppl directly, and hold conversations. How can nagato do it if he can't hear them?

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No need for that. It's not a very difficult move.



No, I didn't. I replied to that.



You're choosing to be ignorant. What can I do?



Ignorance and BS at its finest. Where did you get the "200 meter" figure? LOL. And someone who calculates time from manga scans (@bold) can be safely ignored.

@underlined They saw it, alright. Hashi was praising Naruto for what he was doing. Just trying to use BS to support your argument...



It's not. Madara couldn't try to escape because he was binded.



How is including something the same as changing the subject? Damn.



Firstly, Sasuke doesn't necessarily need Susanoo to counter Odama FRS. Secondly, "Susanoo can't let him live Odama FRS" is only your assumption.



You have no proof for that.

And don't you dare bring Danzo's attack here. Danzo's attack was a concussive attack, not a pin type attack like FRS. Plus, Danzo's attack applied pressure on that area and forced Sasuke to lose control. It didn't literally rip open the Susanoo.



You are doing pretty much the same thing.



Again, that's stupid. No one but you calculates time using pages.



Everything is BS if it does not come to terms with your mindset...

The hawk will maneuver past the FRS. It's not a difficult move to pull off in any sort of way.



I'm well aware of that. The thing is in air, it WON'T explode on impact so worrying about blast range is not needed.



What proof do you need for such a simple and logical thing? The hawk can fly so it can easily get out of the toads range. What's so brainstorming in that?



Knowing which Naruto is the real Naruto is not important at all. The FRS creation will be disturbed regardless of Naruto or his clones create it. If Naruto or his clone dodges the Susanoo Arrow, they will disturb the creation of FRS while simultaneously wasting chakra, and if Naruto or his clone does not dodge it, Naruto will be killed while disturbing the creation of FRS and his clone will be removed while also disturbing the creation of FRS. So it doesn't matter whether Naruto or his clones make FRS.



Chidori Nagashi > Frog Kata



Imagination...



That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, dude. Shooting a Susanoo Arrow at Odama FRS will make Susanoo Arrow the victim of Odama FRS wind blades thus saving Sasuke. Why is it so hard to understand?



That isn't the reply to what I was asking.



LOL. What's that? A barrage of Odama Rasengans? Madara's similar Susanoo as Sasuke tanked Odama Rasengan, so Sasuke can do that same.



All your counters are baseless much in the same way.



No, that's not what I meant. You're getting too excited to understand what I'm saying. I said Sasuke can waste Naruto's Sage chakra by this method, and make a fool out of him.

Winning is not difficult for Sasuke. If Naruto looks in Sasuke's eyes, he gets genjutsu'd. If he doesn't look in Sasuke's eyes, he gets Amaterasu'd (Amaterasu can't be sensed by SM). That's as simple as victory can get for Sasuke.



He can't summon more natural energy while he's still in Sage Mode.



Aoda + Amaterasu is enough counter for that.



As if it can land...



I never said that.



Yes, KCM Naruto >= MS Sasuke (blindness excluded). Sasuke is inferior in raw power, but he is on par when it comes to counters.

Lol, was with my friend's replying once I'm off work later
 

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Pain would destroy Sasuke he doesn't have a bijuu or senjutsu lol

MS sasuke is just an Uchiha half blind in way over his head

Senjutsu is not required to defeat Pain and neither is it a match for Pain.

Bijuu is a different story though.
 

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Senjutsu is not required to defeat Pain and neither is it a match for Pain.

Bijuu is a different story though.

Never said it was needed and yea Naruto kicked his a$$ with senjutsu pain couldn't even fight him he was sent flying when Naruto reentered SM
 

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Link what. We've seen all the Paths talk to ppl directly, and hold conversations. How can nagato do it if he can't hear them?

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Then why didn't Frog Song oneshot. Answer that.
 

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Then why didn't Frog Song oneshot. Answer that.

Same reason why sharingan genjutsu won't one shot:

Just because he can see and hear what they see and hear, it doesn't mean that his senses are linked to theirs.

It's like saying someone can fall for visual genjutsu by watching it happen from a video camera (what jman likened their audio/video link to).
 

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Never said it was needed and yea Naruto kicked his a$$ with senjutsu pain couldn't even fight him he was sent flying when Naruto reentered SM

SM Naruto got his ass handed to him by Deva Path alone and without any effort. As soon as Deva Pain got his powers back, Naruto started to get owned and continued to get owned.

What you are talking about happened when Naruto REENTERED Sage Mode, and Pain couldn't fight because he was EXTREMELY weakened by that time. Good job taking on a weakened Pain... If Pain wasn't weakened by then, then Naruto would get owned again.
 

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SM Naruto got his ass handed to him by Deva Path alone and without any effort. As soon as Deva Pain got his powers back, Naruto started to get owned and continued to get owned.

What you are talking about happened when Naruto REENTERED Sage Mode, and Pain couldn't fight because he was EXTREMELY weakened by that time. Good job taking on a weakened Pain... If Pain wasn't weakened by then, then Naruto would get owned again.

That's not Naruto's fault though lmfaooooooooooooo
Also he is using Madara's power not his own
 

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Sasuke was inexperienced with MS during the Bee battle, while Naruto was experienced with SM and had intel during the Pain battle. If Sasuke MS (With Susano) with Intel against Pain, Sasuke would win. Even Naruto, who had SM at the time, admitted he could not beat Sasuke without the Nine Tails.

Lol, Naruto had just gotten SM and left as soon as he learnt how to enter the mode.
 

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SM Naruto got his ass handed to him by Deva Path alone and without any effort. As soon as Deva Pain got his powers back, Naruto started to get owned and continued to get owned.

What you are talking about happened when Naruto REENTERED Sage Mode, and Pain couldn't fight because he was EXTREMELY weakened by that time. Good job taking on a weakened Pain... If Pain wasn't weakened by then, then Naruto would get owned again.

Yeah but sasuke wouldnt fair better.

Naruto had:
2 clones in reserve
3 boss toads
2 sage toads
A slug feeding him info as match went on
Kurama
Hinata
Minato.
Yet he barley won.

Sasuke by himself gets pwned.
 

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Yeah but sasuke wouldnt fair better.

Naruto had:
2 clones in reserve
3 boss toads
2 sage toads
A slug feeding him info as match went on
Kurama
Hinata
Minato.
Yet he barley won.

Sasuke by himself gets pwned.

Yes, if the fight goes on to the same extent as Naruto's, then Sasuke loses even if he gets the same circumstances as Naruto. Because Chibaku Tensei will definitely destroy Sasuke even if Sasuke gets past the other jutsus. Sasuke doesn't have a parallel to Kurama to save him.
 
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