Gai vs Third Raikage

[Beans2]

Restrictions: 8th Gate

 

[Gold Lightning]

Third Raikage all day everyday.

 

[EZQ]

This is really simple.

Can the sandaime tank hirudora? To answer that question we must ask ourselves, is the 3rd harder than a v3 susano?

My personal opinion is that sandaime can tank it with moderate damage. Against FRS, he was facing a wind style technique, which means his lightining armour got completely removed, and his body alone without the armour tanked FRS.

Hirudora doesn't have the elemental advantage here, and it would have to destroy the armour and the raikage's hard body too. And if you ask me, i don't think there's a huge gap between hirudora and FRS.

Just my toughts tho. If hirudora fails, Gai gets outlasted and eventually killed.

 

[Gold Lightning]

This is really simple.

Can the sandaime tank hirudora? To answer that question we must ask ourselves, is the 3rd harder than a v3 susano?

My personal opinion is that sandaime can tank it with moderate damage. Against FRS, he was facing a wind style technique, which means his lightining armour got completely removed, and his body alone without the armour tanked FRS.

Hirudora doesn't have the elemental advantage here, and it would have to destroy the armour and the raikage's hard body too. And if you ask me, i don't think there's a huge gap between hirudora and FRS.

Just my toughts tho. If hirudora fails, Gai gets outlasted and eventually killed.

Would kisame tank Mabuis teleportation?

 

[EZQ]

Would kisame tank Mabuis teleportation?

I think he would. With some injuries.

But if this comes because of the fact thar kisame tanked hirudora, have in mind that Gai's first hirudora was not as strong as his second one. On the first one he did not have intent to kill, and in the second one he destroyed a susano.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay III wins.

He need at least 7G to compete with Ay III even then none of attacks are putting him down. Nukite ends it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I think he would. With some injuries.

But if this comes because of the fact thar kisame tanked hirudora, have in mind that Gai's first hirudora was not as strong as his second one. On the first one he did not have intent to kill, and in the second one he destroyed a susano.

Fourth raikage had a chidori blade bounce off his armor. Meanwhile Kisame is getting pierced by killer bees pencil. Thats fourth raikage, imagine 3rd raikage. Not in a million years is kisame tanking that teleportation.

 

[EZQ]

Fourth raikage had a chidori blade bounce off his armor. Meanwhile Kisame is getting pierced by killer bees pencil. Thats fourth raikage, imagine 3rd raikage. Not in a million years is kisame tanking that teleportation.

Tsunade tanked it while healing. I mean, that's not the definition of tanking, i meant he can survive it.

He can heal the damage with samehada.

But now that i think of it, Samehada would die, lol. So you're right he doesn't tank it.

 

[Beans2]

Fourth raikage had a chidori blade bounce off his armor. Meanwhile Kisame is getting pierced by killer bees pencil. Thats fourth raikage, imagine 3rd raikage. Not in a million years is kisame tanking that teleportation.

Tsunade survived it and Kisame is more durable than Tsunade. Instead of Byakogou he has his sword to heal him.

 

[LuckyMan]

Tsunade survived it and Kisame is more durable than Tsunade. Instead of Byakogou he has his sword to heal him.

Not sure about the bold. You think Kisame can is surviving that light beam transfer shit? I think he'll end up a nice pile of tuna for us to enjoy. His own sharks ate him, he can't be that durable.

 

[Beans2]

Not sure about the bold. You think Kisame can is surviving that light beam transfer shit? I think he'll end up a nice pile of tuna for us to enjoy. His own sharks ate him, he can't be that durable.

What durability feat puts Tsunade above Kisame? I don't see her tanking shark bites to vital areas without Byakogou.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tsunade survived it and Kisame is more durable than Tsunade. Instead of Byakogou he has his sword to heal him.

Where are these kisame durability feats? Even Aoba easily pierced his skin with regular kunai.

Tsuande survived because of her healing jutsu. She already had it activated as soon as she reached the battlefield. She was bleeding and bruised, you could even see the wounds regenerating. Like Mabui said, she would have died. Thats nothing to do with tsuandes durability, she was repairing the damage while simultaneously receiving damage. Even Mabui saud the four raikage was unable to previously handle it, so how can kisame?

Its just like when Orochimaru if i remember correctly, stabbed her in the heart. She didnt die, she healed it. Doesnt mean shes durable, it means her healing is OP. And why are you telling me samehada will heal kisame? That wasnt the point. The point is if his body can tank it, and it cant. 3rd raikage tanks it in base, not even in lightning chakra mode.

 

[EZQ]

Tsunade survived it and Kisame is more durable than Tsunade. Instead of Byakogou he has his sword to heal him.

I used to think that way. But now that i think about it, Tsunade was able to use byakugo because its her jutsu, but Kisame's healing depends on another being. Samehada can't tank the teletransportation, meaning Kisame won't be able to use it to heal himself. (because samehada would be dead)

 

[Forbidden Technique]

This is really simple.

Can the sandaime tank hirudora? To answer that question we must ask ourselves, is the 3rd harder than a v3 susano?

My personal opinion is that sandaime can tank it with moderate damage. Against FRS, he was facing a wind style technique, which means his lightining armour got completely removed, and his body alone without the armour tanked FRS.

Hirudora doesn't have the elemental advantage here, and it would have to destroy the armour and the raikage's hard body too. And if you ask me, i don't think there's a huge gap between hirudora and FRS.

Just my toughts tho. If hirudora fails, Gai gets outlasted and eventually killed.

Gai can use more then one Hirudora though. Perhaps not consecutively... but that wouldn't matter, because the Raikage doesn't have Edo Tensei's regeneration to renew him here. Against Kisame, Gai used Morning Peacock on a huge scale, then Hirudora immediately after, and felt no immediate drawbacks. So stating the Raikage takes a direct Hirudora, then finishes off Gai immediately after is not an argument.

 

[LuckyMan]

What durability feat puts Tsunade above Kisame? I don't see her tanking shark bites to vital areas without Byakogou.

She took Yasaka Beads point blank to the torso. Even though she healed the damage, you can see just before it healed it gave her a cut to the stomach. I doubt Kisame is receiving little damage like that.

 

[Beans2]

Where are these kisame durability feats? Even Aoba easily pierced his skin with regular kunai.

Tsuande survived because of her healing jutsu. She already had it activated as soon as she reached the battlefield. She was bleeding and bruised, you could even see the wounds regenerating. Like Mabui said, she would have died. Thats nothing to do with tsuandes durability, she was repairing the damage while simultaneously receiving damage. Even Mabui saud the four raikage was unable to previously handle it, so how can kisame?

Its just like when Orochimaru if i remember correctly, stabbed her in the heart. She didnt die, she healed it. Doesnt mean shes durable, it means her healing is OP. And why are you telling me samehada will heal kisame? That wasnt the point. The point is if his body can tank it, and it cant. 3rd raikage tanks it in base, not even in lightning chakra mode.

You completely contradicted yourself here. In the first paragraph you said it has nothing to do with her durability and only survived because it was her healing jutsu which heals her while simultaneously taking damage. This is wrong because Tsunade didn't activate her yin seal until after teleporting took place.

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At the end of the second paragraph you said it's about whether his body can tank it and his healing won't help. This is wrong because Tsunade could tank it and Kisame is more durable than Tsunade. After that his sword heals him the same way Byakogou did to Tsunade.

Not sure why are we debating this though, because the thread's title is Gai vs Third Raikage.

I used to think that way. But now that i think about it, Tsunade was able to use byakugo because its her jutsu, but Kisame's healing depends on another being. Samehada can't tank the teletransportation, meaning Kisame won't be able to use it to heal himself. (because samehada would be dead)

This problem is easily solved by Kisame fusing with Samehada.

She took Yasaka Beads point blank to the torso. Even though she healed the damage, you can see just before it healed it gave her a cut to the stomach. I doubt Kisame is receiving little damage like that.

Based on what?

Those Yasaka Magatamas were used by a ribcage Susanoo and weren't thrown with the Susanoo hand so there was less force behind them. I don't see them completely cutting through Kisame either, especially when a V2 Lariat didn't cut through him (granted, Samehada was protecting him but he can fuse with Samehada which adds Samehada's durability on top of Kisame's.

 

[Null Man]

Gai can only win if he can fire 2 consecutive Hirudora. Assuming the first one peels off the Third's cloak like FRS did, a second Hirudora could be fired to finish him off while the cloak is down. Though that would require intel. Otherwise Ay outlasts and kills him when the gates drop.

 

[Beans2]

Gai can use more then one Hirudora though. Perhaps not consecutively... but that wouldn't matter, because the Raikage doesn't have Edo Tensei's regeneration to renew him here. Against Kisame, Gai used Morning Peacock on a huge scale, then Hirudora immediately after, and felt no immediate drawbacks. So stating the Raikage takes a direct Hirudora, then finishes off Gai immediately after is not an argument.

Rasenshuriken was tanked without damage. It only removed his cloak and made TWO edo flakes come off his body. Now take into account the fact that Raikage is less durable when Edo Tensei, and Hirudora does not have an elemental advantage against Raiton shroud like FRS, and it's evident Raikage would tank Hirudora without damage.

So after Hirudora hits and blows off his cloak, he tanks, then puts his cloak up again for the next Hirudora.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Without the eighth gate. Gai can't hurt Ay.

 

[Lariatoo]

Third Raikage wins.