Can ftg be used to escape the Kamui dimension?

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FTG and Kamui are not an obstacle for each other. In contrast, can amaterasu of a user burn another user's Susanoo?

Now you speak about it, it probably can if the user has enough chakra
 

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I do believe that reverse summoning would work now.

Reason: The requirement to summon Gamabunta, for example Is simply to have a contract with him. No matter where you are or where your contract holder is you'd be able to summon him to your location and vice-versa (I don't believe it requires sensing the location of Gamabunta to be able to summon him since Part 1 Naruto didn't have sensing skills when he first summoned him).

However, I don't think FTG would work.

Reason: the FTG user has to be able to sense the markings he's going to be teleporting to. I forgot where I read this but if it's not backed by Manga or Databook then disregard this since it would mean that he can FTG out. If he does have to sense the marking then he won't be able to get out since the only markings he'd be able to sense would be the ones in the same dimension.
 

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Kekkei Mora >>>>>>> any jutsu

It's an argument of probable comparison

Kamui = Kekkei Genkai >>>> Kekkei Mora

Yet Kamui is the one that got Sasuke out of the dimension...

Summoning jutsu is also one of millions. Yet summons can be summoned into other dimensions, which means summoning jutsu > Amenotejikara.

Eat your own logic
 

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Kamui = Kekkei Genkai >>>> Kekkei Mora

Yet Kamui is the one that got Sasuke out of the dimension...

Summoning jutsu is also one of millions. Yet summons can be summoned into other dimensions, which means summoning jutsu > Amenotejikara.

Eat your own logic

Sasuke had only just recived his rinnegan , but now that shit would mean nothing.
 

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Kamui = Kekkei Genkai >>>> Kekkei Mora

Yet Kamui is the one that got Sasuke out of the dimension...

Summoning jutsu is also one of millions. Yet summons can be summoned into other dimensions, which means summoning jutsu > Amenotejikara.

Eat your own logic

1. Kekkei Mora >>>>>> ems >>>>>> kekkei genkai(you should look it up if you don't know what they meant)

2. Sasuke teleported obito and sakura through that small hole(you should reread manga)

3. Summoning in other dimension = greater than amenotejikara???? What kind of conclusion is that?!

4. It's 100% your fan logic which I don't get one bit
 

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1. Kekkei Mora >>>>>> ems >>>>>> kekkei genkai(you should look it up if you don't know what they meant)

2. Sasuke teleported obito and sakura through that small hole(you should reread manga)

3. Summoning in other dimension = greater than amenotejikara???? What kind of conclusion is that?!

4. It's 100% your fan logic which I don't get one bit
1. Kamui is an Ms technique, not ems. And sharingan is a Kekkei Genkai.
2. Sasuke teleported through a hole made via obito said kamui. He cannot teleport through dimensions himself with Amenotejikara.
3. You said FTG fails because Ameno didn't work so FTG is fodder. So I'm using your same logic. Summoning jutsu succeeded while Ameno failed, ere fore Ameno is fodder.
4. I'm making fun of the nonsense you were spouting
 

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1. Kamui is an Ms technique, not ems. And sharingan is a Kekkei Genkai.
2. Sasuke teleported through a hole made via obito said kamui. He cannot teleport through dimensions himself with Amenotejikara.
3. You said FTG fails because Ameno didn't work so FTG is fodder. So I'm using your same logic. Summoning jutsu succeeded while Ameno failed, ere fore Ameno is fodder.
4. I'm making fun of the nonsense you were spouting

1. Rinnegan > ems > ms > random jutsu. I agree with what you state here

2. Very true which I don't deny, but obito certainly wasn't "the one that got him out". It helped like sakura

3. You using too much logic that kishi doesn't go by. In short, reverse summon doesn't work. Why?

a. It's mangafact that sasuke knew reverse summon before naruto even know what "sage mode" is

b. Sasuke said he tried everything in the dessert and nothing works.

You should forget about the summoning in kaguya dimension, it only confuse you more

4. You shouldnt make fun of something you don't understand
 

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Sasuke was able to use summoning jutsu in Kabuya's dimension and FTG is basically summoning jutsu on yourself, so I don't see why not he can't in Obito's dimension.
 

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Sasuke was able to use summoning jutsu in Kabuya's dimension and FTG is basically summoning jutsu on yourself, so I don't see why not he can't in Obito's dimension.

Reverse summon doesn't work
 

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1. Sasuke knows reverse summon(he's the only one in manga used that in battle)

2. Sasuke said he tried everything and nothing works

Also Sasuke is not an idiot, reverse summoning wouldn't get him to the dimension that Naruto is in, it will only get him out of the dimension he is already in. Staying where he was is ultimately better than going into the real world as he it would be more likely for him to get back to the dimension Naruto is in. This we already know to be true in cannon.
 

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Also Sasuke is not an idiot, reverse summoning wouldn't get him to the dimension that Naruto is in, it will only get him out of the dimension he is already in. Staying where he was is ultimately better than going into the real world as he it would be more likely for him to get back to the dimension Naruto is in. This we already know to be true in cannon.

Sasuke said, "nothing works after all I tried

If you are right, he shouldn't have tried that hard
 
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Sasuke said, "nothing works after all I tried"

If you are right, he shouldn't have tried that hard

If all of Sasuke's efforts were meant to be efficient then it would make sense that he would say that.
 

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If all of Sasuke's efforts were meant to be efficient then it would make sense that he would say that.

Yes they were all efficient. Kishi obviously was trying to show that, "once you are trapped in kaguya's world, its extremely difficult to get out even if you have rinnegan". That is still true even after sasuke can dimension hop
 

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Yes they were all efficient. Kishi obviously was trying to show that, "once you are trapped in kaguya's world, its extremely difficult to get out even if you have rinnegan". That is still true even after sasuke can dimension hop

I would assume they were all efficient, that's the type of guy Sasuke is. Reverserse Summon however isn't efficient thus why he wouldn't attempt use it.
 

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I would assume they were all efficient, that's the type of guy Sasuke is. Reverserse Summon however isn't efficient thus why he wouldn't attempt use it.

It appears you believe sasuke could easily escape kaguya dimension back there
 

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It appears you believe sasuke could easily escape kaguya dimension back there


Nothing I have said indicates that. I said he could have escaped but can't comeback. Thus not an efficient means of escape.
 

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Nothing I have said indicates that. I said he could have escaped but can't comeback. Thus not an efficient means of escape.

I supposed you have indicated now; however I don't remember anyone stating that sasuke could have escaped except you
 

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No. Kamui is a sealed dimension. Kaguya's portals aren't.
 
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