Nukite>V4 Susanoo

Beans2 · Jul 28, 2015

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In this thread I will explain why One Fingered Nukite will pierce through MS Sasuke/Itachi's V4 Susanoos (discounting Yata).

Transcendence · Jul 28, 2015

Slightly faulty logic but I understand your premise to an extent. You can't really use the Nukite vs FRS comparison though. FRS is much more a wide AoE attack once the widespread ability of itself is activated. The energy that it possesses is much more spread out, so it never targeted one area of the body and was more spread out. The strongest version of the Sandaime's Nukite is concentrated in that one finger. Best example I can give is that Bee tanked his own Bijuu dama with his tails still intact (spread out energy) whereas Sandaime actually cut them all off when battling Hachibi. I don't think Nukite is doing no damage to a V4 Susano'o, but I severely doubt it outright pierces something that large.

Rιver · Jul 28, 2015

Stopped reading when FRS = Kirin.

Beans2 · Jul 28, 2015

Transcendence said:
Slightly faulty logic but I understand your premise to an extent. You can't really use the Nukite vs FRS comparison though. FRS is much more a wide AoE attack once the widespread ability of itself is activated. The energy that it possesses is much more spread out, so it never targeted one area of the body and was more spread out. The strongest version of the Sandaime's Nukite is concentrated in that one finger. Best example I can give is that Bee tanked his own Bijuu dama with his tails still intact (spread out energy) whereas Sandaime actually cut them all off when battling Hachibi. I don't think Nukite is doing no damage to a V4 Susano'o, but I severely doubt it outright pierces something that large.

Exactly. Nukite is a highly focused attack, therefore Susanoo would take more damage from that than it would from FRS which spreads its explosive power over a larger area. I gave evidence that FRS alone can do moderate damage to V4, so Nukite would do the job much easier.

And I pointed out how Nukite caused the Third Raikage's edo body to disintegrate, instead of injuring him in only the spot where Nukite pierced through.

Transcendence · Jul 28, 2015

Beans2 said:
Exactly. Nukite is a highly focused attack, therefore Susanoo would take more damage from that than it would from FRS which spreads its explosive power over a larger area. I gave evidence that FRS alone can do moderate damage to V4, so Nukite would do the job much easier.

That wasn't my point. FRS is much better suited to something like a V4 Susano'o given the nature of the attack. A bigger defence will take damage from a bigger attack. It spreads the damage around, weakening the integrity of the defence, which in this case is Susano'o. What you're suggesting is that something with a concentrated attack will be able to pierce and take out something much larger, and the integrity of the Susano'o will falter. That I disagree on seeing how Madara's V4 was able to take a Bijuudama from 100 percent Kurama and just shrug it off.

Beans2 · Jul 28, 2015

Transcendence said:
That wasn't my point. FRS is much better suited to something like a V4 Susano'o given the nature of the attack. A bigger defence will take damage from a bigger attack. It spreads the damage around, weakening the integrity of the defence, which in this case is Susano'o. What you're suggesting is that something with a concentrated attack will be able to pierce and take out something much larger, and the integrity of the Susano'o will falter. That I disagree on seeing how Madara's V4 was able to take a Bijuudama from 100 percent Kurama and just shrug it off.

A bigger attack won't be more effective against a bigger defense just because of size. My point was never that Nukite would destroy Susanoo. It was that it can pierce through the defense and kill the user. A focused attack will have a higher damage per unit ratio. Here is a picture of what I mean. Numbers represent durability per unit.

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NarutoX28 · Jul 28, 2015

Rιver said:
Stopped reading when FRS = Kirin.

Then you probably should.

TRE MERCER · Jul 28, 2015

The Nukite wank begins. Also being able to cut Hachibi is nothing. .

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. Also Kirin did infact take out this. .

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. Kirin shits on FRS in DC. Also so wait KM Naruto Rasengans are stronger than normal Naruto's? It's not like his rasengans in KM are infused with Kurama chakra? Plus the 3rd Raikage base body was cut by Temari and some fodders wind tech. .

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. Baku also increased Danzo wind tech by a huge margin seeing as a skeleton Susanoo later tanked the same attack without any damage. .

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. Also the Baku sucking plus the wind slice would have worked on the 3rd Raikage as well. Wind sucks his armor wind slice from the behide rips it right off/open.

L0l V4 Susanoo tanks Nukite.

KidGamer65 · Jul 28, 2015

Agreed 100%.

NarutoX28 · Jul 28, 2015

TRE MERCER said:
The Nukite wank begins. Also being able to cut Hachibi is nothing. .
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. Also Kirin did infact take out this. .
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. Kirin shits on FRS in DC. Also so wait KM Naruto Rasengans are stronger than normal Naruto's? It's not like his rasengans in KM are infused with Kurama chakra? Plus the 3rd Raikage base body was cut by Temari and some fodders wind tech. .
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. Baku also increased Danzo wind tech by a huge margin seeing as a skeleton Susanoo later tanked the same attack without any damage. .
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. Also the Baku sucking plus the wind slice would have worked on the 3rd Raikage as well. Wind sucks his armor wind slice from the behide rips it right off/open.

L0l V4 Susanoo tanks Nukite.

Good thing there's the dislike feature. I feel like you completely ignored what the OP presented here.

TRE MERCER · Jul 28, 2015

NarutoX28 said:
Good thing there's the dislike feature. I feel like you completely ignored what the OP presented here.

No i just completely countered it but he made this thread so it can get hot and indeed it will my friend.

BenjerminGaye · Jul 28, 2015

Smoking on the floor passed out...

Naww dog he tanked it.

Lariatoo · Jul 28, 2015

Don't really see it. Yata repels it.

Chaosmark101 · Jul 28, 2015

I don't agree that the Third Raikage tanked a BD from the Hachibi considering you don't have to just expend chakra to become exhausted. But still reading so far.

Edit: OT yes Nukite cuts through as if Susanoo was paper mache

ComplexCity · Jul 28, 2015

TRE MERCER said:
No i just completely countered it but he made this thread so it can get hot and indeed it will my friend.

Didn't Danzo's Baku powered Fuuton open part of Sasuke's Sussano?

RedRobin · Jul 28, 2015

The 3rd raikage gets super overrated because people think he survived a TBB when he didnt.

There is literally no evidence the 3rd survived a TBB. The fight was close combat as seen by Hachibi saying the 3rd cut all his tails off , meaning the 3rd was jumping all over Hachibi making hits, there is no way Hachibi could use a TBB at this range. Plus if he had survived a TBB then Hachibi wouldnt be so

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3rd raikage didnt take damage from FRS because of how FRS works. Its

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cutting into the body, however if the little blades cannot even get through the shell than they cant damage the body. The moment 3rd raikage was up against a bigger blade he was cut open

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The only feat the one fingered nukite has is piercing the 3rd raikage.
3rd Raikage did not survive a TBB.
He did tank FRS but no other technique works like FRS using tiny little blades.
Bigger blades were shown to cut into the 3rd.

So using FRS to prove something about Nukite doesnt works because FRS works different from all other techniques.

EZQ · Jul 28, 2015

RedRobin said:
The 3rd raikage gets super overrated because people think he survived a TBB when he didnt.

There is literally no evidence the 3rd survived a TBB. The fight was close combat as seen by Hachibi saying the 3rd cut all his tails off , meaning the 3rd was jumping all over Hachibi making hits, there is no way Hachibi could use a TBB at this range. Plus if he had survived a TBB then Hachibi wouldnt be so
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3rd raikage didnt take damage from FRS because of how FRS works. Its
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cutting into the body, however if the little blades cannot even get through the shell than they cant damage the body. The moment 3rd raikage was up against a bigger blade he was cut open
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The only feat the one fingered nukite has is piercing the 3rd raikage.

3rd Raikage did not survive a TBB.

He did tank FRS but no other technique works like FRS using tiny little blades.

Bigger blades were shown to cut into the 3rd.

So using FRS to prove something about Nukite doesnt works because FRS works different from all other techniques.

There's a bunch of evidence. There's no proof.

Proof is not the same as evidence. Here on this same thread we've got a lot of evidence of raikage being able to handle TBB, via tanking or dodging... and given the fact that he's not insanely fast as his son, people tend to think he tanked it.

Even the hachibi mentioned TBB giving hard evidence that he in fact used it in battle. And on the flashback we saw right there on the panel we see the raikage several mts away from the hachibi, implying it wasn't a CQC battle as you are implying (with even less evidence than the people you think is "overrating" the raikage).

OT: Nice thread beans i agree, tough i think you are underrating a lil bit the power jump that exists between v3 susano and v4 susano. I'd say nukite stomps a v3 susano but i'd say it wouldn't pierce completely a v4 susano since it has been shown in the manga how much more shield and chakra v4 susano gains compared with a v3.

RedRobin · Jul 28, 2015

ezequielosses said:
There's a bunch of evidence. There's no proof.

Proof is not the same as evidence. Here on this same thread we've got a lot of evidence of raikage being able to handle TBB, via tanking or dodging... and given the fact that he's not insanely fast as his son, people tend to think he tanked it.

Even the hachibi mentioned TBB giving hard evidence that he in fact used it in battle. And on the flashback we saw right there on the panel we see the raikage several mts away from the hachibi, implying it wasn't a CQC battle as you are implying (with even less evidence than the people you think is "overrating" the raikage).

OT: Nice thread beans i agree, tough i think you are underrating a lil bit the power jump that exists between v3 susano and v4 susano. I'd say nukite stomps a v3 susano but i'd say it wouldn't pierce completely a v4 susano since it has been shown in the manga how much more shield and chakra v4 susano gains compared with a v3.

Evidence is used to prove something. Whatever evidence you think is there doesnt prove he survived a TBB.

Hachibi remembered 3rd raikage had cut off all his tails so if he used a TBB and it didnt work than he wouldnt be questioning it.

A bunch of Akatsuki fought Bijuu, doesnt mean they have the means of surviving a TBB.

EZQ · Jul 28, 2015

RedRobin said:
Evidence is used to prove something. Whatever evidence you think is there doesnt prove he survived a TBB.

Hachibi remembered 3rd raikage had cut off all his tails so if he used a TBB and it didnt work than he wouldnt be questioning it.

A bunch of Akatsuki fought Bijuu, doesnt mean they have the means of surviving a TBB.

Bold: No, evidence is useful to make something evident when there is lack of proof. Is there evidence that the 3rd raikage can handle TBB? Yes. Is there evidence that the akatsuki can handle TBB? Yes. Each one does it with his own means. How did the raikage do it? (its evident he did), Well, probably tanking it.

The hachibi said "it wasn't his TBB" meaning his TBB wasn't the atack that hurt the raikage, implying the raikage survived TBB.

RedRobin · Jul 28, 2015

ezequielosses said:
Bold: No, evidence is useful to make something evident when there is lack of proof. Is there evidence that the 3rd raikage can handle TBB? Yes. Is there evidence that the akatsuki can handle TBB? Yes. Each one does it with his own means. How did the raikage do it? (its evident he did), Well, probably tanking it.

The hachibi said "it wasn't his TBB" meaning his TBB wasn't the atack that hurt the raikage, implying the raikage survived TBB.

No there isnt.
No there isnt.

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, if he could remember that the 3rd cut off all his tails then he would have remembered a TBB not working on the 3rd.

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