Susano is actually deadlier than most people think...

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We all know about the famed susano, what it can do, it's weaknesses and even wikia gives us the information but there's something with susano that susano users rarely do. And that's use their techniques THROUGH susano. So now I'm going to compare techs as they are originally used to techs amped by susano (using only manga facts of course) and then I'll expand on what this means for possible future techniques.

First we shall start with madara and we'll use Nagato as a comparison (mind you this is their Edo and Edos are not as strong as when they are alive). We all remember Nagato's meteor right? The small one he hurled at Naruto and co., say Madara can do the same but Madara used the technique through susano which resulted in tengai tensei and that was a mammoth meteorite that destroyed most of the fourth division and made earthquakes that could be felt all the way back at the alliance HQ. See the power difference? Another testament is that this was only Madara's complete Susano now if this had been PS then the mammoth scale would really be high as the power difference between PS and CS is immense.

Another one is Sasuke who is more known for it, we all know how his use of ameterssu is without Susano but when he used final susano the orb of black flames forges multiple weapons with thick flames also known as Susano:Enton. And the fire spreads noticeably quicker than if it was just a regular ameterasu, noted by how quickly it spread on a white zetsu as it instantly set them ablaze. Also lets not forget the power difference of a regular chidori and a susano chidori, a susano chidori was capable of cancelling out with a TBB. One can also use rinnegan techs through susano, as Sasuke's amenojikara limit is 10 meters I believe but when Susano blitz'd kurama from the distance that it was, it was several yards taking into account the mammoth size of susano and kurama.

Susano is basically the manifestation of the user's spirit, Uchiha's are yin so Susano is pretty much their yin inner self brought forth while senju are yang with their outer selves being sage mode (because lets face it, the average senju would get slaughtered by sussno unless they have sage mode) keeping the yin-yang balance. But my question is, why aren't techniques through Susano abused more? I mean the sheer destructive force us immense compared to a user using it without susano. I mean I will take into account that it's incredibly chakra taxing when one thinks about it but think about it. A susano enhanced shines tensei, asura path(a susano with multiple arms and weaponry but Naruto would probably get sued by gundam or Tranformers' Michael bay :lmao:), naraka path (a susano like king of hell), CT (that'd be epic), etc etc, I mean even preta through susano isn't a problem as shown that susano can double over as the gedo mazou and absorb chakra and sasuke mixed the chairs of 8.5 beasts perfectly according to yin kurama, it was on hagoromo level (not in terms of power probably but in terms of skills).

Even though it was a video game, shisui susano even had it's own deadly moveset, I think that Susano's destructive force is seriously undermined along with it's usefulness. The possibilities with Susano are endless but they aren't exactly fluently shown, I wish it was possible to have a perfect susano vs a perfect susano match-up that'd be a show of the ages and both sides using sussno enhanced techniques, would be epic for sure but so far only saauke has perfect susano but I still wish it was possible. What do you guys think? About the susano enhanced notion (and PS fight if you wish to include that)
 

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Its fact. Just Kishi hesitated to used it to the fullest because to over power
 

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Shinsu Senju, Ashura Avatar and juubi jin owns without diff. Manga fact
 

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Shinsu Senju, Ashura Avatar and juubi jin owns without diff. Manga fact

Can't deny them manga facts though, shinsu doesn't own neg diff as Hashirama was still huffing and puffing while using it so it was more of a low to mid diff, Madara's Kurama Susano wasn't going to last as wood style puts kurama too sleep. But that was madara without the rinnegan and Madara doesn't even have any EMS abilities that we know of anyway but indeed Madara got smacked.

And show me in the manga where ashura avatar negs perfect susano and I hope you realize neg means with literally no effort, a neg would be what Itachi did to Deidara, literally no effort not even Tsukyomi :lmao:.

No juubi Jin has ever fought a perfect susano user, Kaguya doesn't count because she IS the juubi so how can you be a Jin of yourself??? And even then Kaguya used a kekkei Mora technique that was noted to be capable of being the strongest taijutsu technique when coupled with her byakugan I believe it was the eighty gods technique, so how is a jutsu like that a neg diff??? Naruto got blasted back from one hit direct hit of that thing, it took several to take down Sasuke's perfect Susano while striking all of it's vital points :lmao:
 

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My bad for the wall of texts, basically to concise it.
>Jutsus used through perfect susano are incredibly augmented so why aren't they used more? Like susano Shinra Tensei, or susano asura path (mechanized multiple arms susano), etc.
 
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This is a good question. Wow. This is a pretty cool theory(I guess?) but yeah, the amount of chakra used for an attack would be immense. We've seen what happened to sasuke when he unleashed susanoo against danzo and combined amaterasu with susanoo. This would be beneficial only when you need to kill your opponent in one turn.
 

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Can't deny them manga facts though, shinsu doesn't own neg diff as Hashirama was still huffing and puffing while using it so it was more of a low to mid diff, Madara's Kurama Susano wasn't going to last as wood style puts kurama too sleep. But that was madara without the rinnegan and Madara doesn't even have any EMS abilities that we know of anyway but indeed Madara got smacked.

And show me in the manga where ashura avatar negs perfect susano and I hope you realize neg means with literally no effort, a neg would be what Itachi did to Deidara, literally no effort not even Tsukyomi :lmao:.

No juubi Jin has ever fought a perfect susano user, Kaguya doesn't count because she IS the juubi so how can you be a Jin of yourself??? And even then Kaguya used a kekkei Mora technique that was noted to be capable of being the strongest taijutsu technique when coupled with her byakugan I believe it was the eighty gods technique, so how is a jutsu like that a neg diff??? Naruto got blasted back from one hit direct hit of that thing, it took several to take down Sasuke's perfect Susano while striking all of it's vital points :lmao:
i dont need to use manga scan but right before madara got double crossed by zetsu he used a finger to ****ing undo sasuke's PS and about ashura avatar, i was just exaggerating
 

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Well, back when physical limits actually existed in Naruto, using Susano'o was extremely taxing on the body. On top of using up a ton of chakra it put the user in extreme pain, making it extremely hard to concentrate.

The only people who would be able to use Susano'o in this way would be Sasuke and Madara, since the EMS seems to take away a lot of the burden put on the user of Susano'o (and all other MS techniques). (Also they started showing off their Susano'os in a time when chakra limits didn't exist because plot demanded they keep fighting).
 

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and then no uchiha without upgraded chakra reserves has the ability to pull that stunt
 

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i dont need to use manga scan but right before madara got double crossed by zetsu he used a finger to ****ing undo sasuke's PS and about ashura avatar, i was just exaggerating

Didn't sasuke undo that by himself since IT was over and Naruto no longer needed protection?

I think Kakashi's PS can actually take on Juubito and Juubidara(briefly) due to hax kumai being haxed.

I would love to see asura avatar vs asura susano though, but kishi would never be that gracious
 

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Didn't sasuke undo that by himself since IT was over and Naruto no longer needed protection?
it was more of destroyed than undon

I think Kakashi's PS can actually take on Juubito and Juubidara(briefly) due to hax kumai being haxed.
kakashi's susanoo was just plot ms using PS and kamui at the same time, kakashi don't have the chakra to do that

I would love to see asura avatar vs asura susano though, but kishi would never be that gracious
me too the battle will be OP
 

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Who underrates Susano'o? :| It's just we seen it so many times.
 

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Shinsu Senju, Ashura Avatar and juubi jin owns without diff. Manga fact

Susanoo tanked Shinsu Senju, Ashura avatar was on the defensive against Sasuke's Susanoo and if I recall EMS sword negated Nunoboku
 

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Susanoo tanked Shinsu Senju, Ashura avatar was on the defensive against Sasuke's Susanoo and if I recall EMS sword negated Nunoboku

hashirama's shinsu ended madara's PS with a single move

Sasuke's susanoo was upgraded with the chakra of nine tailed beasts so that's not a fair PS fight

actually BSM naruto + PS soloed obito's DNA sword so please use valid arguments
 

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My bad for the wall of texts, basically to concise it.
>Jutsus used through perfect susano are incredibly augmented so why aren't they used more? Like susano Shinra Tensei, or susano asura path (mechanized multiple arms susano), etc.

Oh, in that case i agree. Jutsu used through susano'o are of larger scale. If u think about it. Shinra Tensei was enough to level the village and that was from Pain who is <Nagato<Madara (original owner) If u put that on Susano'o scale that seems like it could be country wide :|
I mean Sasuke did already use BT to bring the bijuu trapped in CTs from at least a country's distance.
 

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it was more of destroyed than undon


kakashi's susanoo was just plot ms using PS and kamui at the same time, kakashi don't have the chakra to do that


me too the battle will be OP

What are you talking about? sasuke undid his susanoo before madara even landed on the ground. And then he landed and zetsu negged him.
 

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hashirama's shinsu ended madara's PS with a single move

Nope, only a part of the armour was removed, the Susanoo itself was still intact

Sasuke's susanoo was upgraded with the chakra of nine tailed beasts so that's not a fair PS fight

actually BSM naruto + PS soloed obito's DNA sword so please use valid arguments

It was only a portion of their chakra, besides 50% Kurama has equal power to all those bijuu and Naruto absorbed Juubi levels of NE in addition to that
 

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actually BSM naruto + PS soloed obito's DNA sword so please use valid arguments

You missed his point.

- Sasuke covered Naruto Bijuu avatar with his Susano'o.

- Sasuke then placed his Susano'o sword in the Bijuu avatar hand that also = Susano'o hand.

- It's Sasuke sword so he was the only one Stabilizing/Maintaining it.

- But they both pushed it through.


We all know that the result if the combined powers.


Nope, only a part of the armour was removed, the Susanoo itself was still intact



It was only a portion of their chakra, besides 50% Kurama has equal power to all those bijuu and Naruto absorbed Juubi levels of NE in addition to that

At that time, Naruto only linked Sasuke to his/Minato chakra to escape.

- He didn't give Sasuke a chakra boost.

- His Susano'o and everything was still the same afterwards.

- Then Sasuke fought some more before using Curse Mark Susano'o.
 
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Nagato summoned a meteor?

On topic: how would Susanoo shrina tensei work?

Wouldn't it interfere with the Susanoo since the repulsion expels from the body?
 
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