Hinata and Sakura comparison

[Dannie]

Wow so her mentality is to protect Naruto and what she believes in is Naruto's Ninja way?, wow this a lot of Naruto talk, even though we're talking about Hinata, go figure, also lets see well, sakura got into some fights, she has made other friendships, besides just Sasuke, also when she's shown, she doesn't just think about Sasuke, she worry's about Naruto and her other comrades and does things to help out the village.

She also cares about her clan as well as the people on her team.

At the end of the day, Sakura is just as Sasuke oriented as Hinata is Naruto, but the difference being, Hinata doesn't try to support someone who almost killed them or discouraged them.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Well not everyone sees with your eyes. Therefore what you consider canon does not mean it is canon. Also this thread was never about you so stop making it about you. Fact is this novel is not canon. So comparing something that is canon to it is a flawed arguement.

I'm speaking on behalf of my personal preference, I did not say anything with how I view is in "fact" canon but rather it's what I like to "consider" so if you got issues with my opinion , then don't bother rambling .

 

[6thHokage]

She also cares about her clan as well as the people on her team.

At the end of the day, Sakura is just as Sasuke oriented as Hinata is Naruto, but the difference being, Hinata doesn't try to support someone who almost killed them or discouraged them.

How about Karin?

 

[SPIRTofleo]

She also cares about her clan as well as the people on her team.

At the end of the day, Sakura is just as Sasuke oriented as Hinata is Naruto, but the difference being, Hinata doesn't try to support someone who almost killed them or discouraged them.

She barely talks about her clan or her teammates, espically not her teammates, unless her teammate is Naruto, and yea that is a difference

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Her characters a contradiction. So strong willed and mind and yet she keeps falling for a dude that continues to treat her like dirt and give her zero time. He's even tried to kill her 2 or 3 times. How are we suppose to buy that?

I say this without comparing her to anyone else. If you really want to know as to why I view Sakura as a horrible character, and probably why other's too. Consideirng he nailed every head on the spot. Watch this:
[video=youtube;27o0Q1yMhSY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27o0Q1yMhSY[/video]

Again I say this without comparing her to anyone else, nor saying anyone else is better than her (in the female group.

Lmao, I love my boy KOL!! He's hilarious!

 

[Shruikan]

I'm speaking on behalf of my personal preference, I did not say anything with how I view is in "fact" canon but rather it's what I like "consider" so if you got issues , then don't bother rambling on other people opinions.

I just dont understand why these people come on like every novel thread yelling "not canon" I mean you can just as easily avoid the threads because those who are gonna read them are gonna use em in arguments anyway and you can point out that at that point of time.Besides there is just no way opinions are gonna change

 

[6thHokage]

Lmao, I love my boy KOL!! He's hilarious!

KOL is just as bad as Fonever World.

 

[lndra]

Thats the point.It always zooms out on her the moments its an incident not Naruto related and we get a closeup shot for Naruto

That's what happens for couples in Naruto sadly.

Its bad because till that point mostly her character revovles around Naruto.Therefore her being out on an independant mission like Shikamaru was given would have removed some of the satellite character definition behind those words.When "being at Naruto's side or something Naruto related is emphasised too much it starts to get old

Sadly Hinata as a character is rarely seen not around Naruto. In fact someone made a percentage chart that showed 95% of Hinata's screen-time, Naruto was somewhere in the vicinity. Still though, the fact that her character benefits from Naruto as a whole, I don't see it as completely bad. Like you said "Anyways I am done. Sakura centres around Sasuke and Hinata around Naruto except Sakura being fleshed out more" -- Because she is a main character. Funny enough we both know her character did not contribute anything to the actual story-line, and when I mean that. I mean actually giving the story of Naruto depth and make it interesting. Though, this is what we get when the author cares more about males than females.

Yes.That is the reason behind it but it did lead to her being fleshed out more did it not?I agree had Sasuke stayed,she would probably throw Naruto to the wayside

Funny enough that when Sasuke came back during the Bridge Scene/War Arc, she showed she had not changed at ALL from the same person she was in Part one. I could go into depth on it, but I can tell you don't want to continue another long conversation of back and forth.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.I am nto denying there are panels of her caring for team mates except the Naruto related moments are far more impactful/more in number to provide a basis for summary

I am not trying to change people's opinions.They are gonna remain the same as you cant change my opinion as I cant change yours

I guess we can agree on that.

 

[Made in Heaven]

No thats not the point.Point is she showcased worry and her facial expression completely changed for Naruto and that was a lame kick into the water too whereas she didnt showcase that much care for Kiba.Than in 649 when Shikamaru has been healed he comments "I want to be Naruto's advisor" and while the others are busy chereing and shit Hinata comments "I want to be at Naruto's side" not even showing that much pleasure as the others on panel .Notice how the same shit makes Hinata more annoying?

Did she show care for Kiba ? Yes. Was it as much as for Naruto? most likely not. Does that matter ? No.

Hinata was silent throughout the whole time Shika was dying, the only ones who spoke up were Sakura and her team mates, Ino and Choji. After he was back to health, he says he wants to stay by Narutos side, as his advisor. and Hinata, hearing this, says she wishes to do the same. There is nothing wrong with this. You people just love jumping on her ass about everything

Shikamaru saying he wants to by Naruto’s side = Selfless

Hinata saying she wants to be by Naruto’s side as well, after hearing this from Shikamaru = Selfish

okay

It’s like you can’t even understand how writing works. Of course Hinata’s not gonna be shown doing such thigs over Shikamaru’s death because she is irrelevant to his character, not to mention her personality wouldn't allow for that. Did Shikamaru show any actual concern when he found out Hinata had been attacked by pain? No. Not at all. Did Gai, Tenten, Hiashi, or any of the K11 show any sadness over Neji? No. Oh! Here’s the best one…. did Shikamaru show any sadess over his dad dying? Nope .

Why do you care if she doesn't show sadness over someone she hardly knows despite him not even dying ?

She barely talks about her clan or her teammates, espically not her teammates, unless her teammate is Naruto, and yea that is a difference

She barely talks at all. This ain't even an argument.

 

[Dannie]

How about Karin?

Everyone knows that Karin is just a comedic side character with no purpose.

Stop getting off topic.

 

[6thHokage]

Did she show care for Kiba ? Yes. Was it as much as for Naruto? most likely not. Does that matter ? No.

Hinata was silent throughout the whole time Shika was dying, the only ones who spoke up were Sakura and her team mates, Ino and Choji. After he was back to health, he says he wants to stay by Narutos side, as his advisor. and Hinata, hearing this, says she wishes to do the same. There is nothing wrong with this. You people just love jumping on her ass about everything

Shikamaru saying he wants to by Naruto’s side = Selfless

Hinata saying she wants to be by Naruto’s side as well, after hearing this from Shikamaru = Selfish

okay

It’s like you can’t even understand how writing works. Of course Hinata’s not gonna be shown doing such thigs over Shikamaru’s death because she is irrelevant to his character, not to mention her personality wouldn't allow for that. Did Shikamaru show any actual concern when he found out Hinata had been attacked by pain? No. Not at all. Did Gai, Tenten, Hiashi, or any of the K11 show any sadness over Neji? No. Oh! Here’s the best one…. did Shikamaru show any sadess over his dad dying? Nope .

Why do you care if she doesn't show sadness over someone she hardly knows despite him not even dying ?



She barely talks at all. This ain't even an argument.

Hinata don't care about anyone besides her "Naruto-kun".

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

I just dont understand why these people come on like every novel thread yelling "not canon" I mean you can just as easily avoid the threads because those who are gonna read them are gonna use em in arguments anyway and you can point out that at that point of time.Besides there is just no way opinions are gonna change

Well I havn't been much active in this forum so I wouldn't really know but yeah I normally avoid these arguments, it's not worth my time when people will never be open minded.

 

[6thHokage]

Everyone knows that Karin is just a comedic side character with no purpose.

Stop getting off topic.

Then why do you like her?

 

[SPIRTofleo]

Did she show care for Kiba ? Yes. Was it as much as for Naruto? most likely not. Does that matter ? No.

Hinata was silent throughout the whole time Shika was dying, the only ones who spoke up were Sakura and her team mates, Ino and Choji. After he was back to health, he says he wants to stay by Narutos side, as his advisor. and Hinata, hearing this, says she wishes to do the same. There is nothing wrong with this. You people just love jumping on her ass about everything

Shikamaru saying he wants to by Naruto’s side = Selfless

Hinata saying she wants to be by Naruto’s side as well, after hearing this from Shikamaru = Selfish

okay

It’s like you can’t even understand how writing works. Of course Hinata’s not gonna be shown doing such thigs over Shikamaru’s death because she is irrelevant to his character, not to mention her personality wouldn't allow for that. Did Shikamaru show any actual concern when he found out Hinata had been attacked by pain? No. Not at all. Did Gai, Tenten, Hiashi, or any of the K11 show any sadness over Neji? No. Oh! Here’s the best one…. did Shikamaru show any sadess over his dad dying? Nope .

Why do you care if she doesn't show sadness over someone she hardly knows despite him not even dying ?



She barely talks at all. This ain't even an argument.

I mean mostly everytime she talks or thinks, it's about seeing or believing in Naruto, or just something about Naruto, it's like kishimoto just uses Hinata to hype up Naruto

 

[Angelic.]

every thread turns into a canon non canon argument XD kishi dont care

who knows hinata could be with her dad doing stuff. or just making uzumaki babbies

 

[lndra]

Hinata don't care about anyone besides her "Naruto-kun".

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[Natsu Shazneel]

I'm speaking on behalf of my personal preference, I did not say anything with how I view is in "fact" canon but rather it's what I like to "consider" so if you got issues with my opinion , then don't bother rambling .

I know very well that you were talking through your personal preference. But none of what I said had to do with that. Even if you think its canon or not canon. It does not change the fact one is canon while the other isn't. You can't use a filler in a arguement.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I mean mostly everytime she talks or thinks, it's about seeing or believing in Naruto, or just something about Naruto, it's like kishimoto just uses Hinata to hype up Naruto

I know that, I'm not gonna disagree with you on that. that doesn't change the fact that there are abundant moments of her caring for others.

 

[Shruikan]

That's what happens for couples in Naruto sadly.

Yup

Sadly Hinata as a character is rarely seen around Naruto. In fact someone made a percentage chart that showed 95% of Hinata's screen-time, Naruto was somewhere in the vicinity. Still though, the fact that her character benefits from Naruto as a whole, I don't see it as completely bad.

Yeah.I am just pointing out the facts here.People keep trying to shove their opion that Hinata has a life outside of Naruto except the manga emphasis is different

Like you said "Anyways I am done. Sakura centres around Sasuke and Hinata around Naruto except Sakura being fleshed out more" -- Because she is a main character. Funny enough we both know her character did not contribute anything to the actual story-line, and when I mean that. I mean actually giving the story of Naruto depth and make it interesting. Though, this is what we get when the author cares more about males than females.

Yeah but those are reasons as to why she was fleshed out more.I am just saying some prefer her to Hinata as a outcome of that reason.Hinata being side and Sakura main are just excuses for the results but it doesnt change the results
You cant tell me that had Kishi replaced Sakura with Hinata,we wouldnt have Hinata blushing all over Naruto throughut the series

Funny enough that when Sasuke came back during the Bridge Scene/War Arc, she showed she had not changed at ALL from the same person she was in Part one. I could go into depth on it, but I can tell you don't want to continue another long conversation of back and forth.

I can see where you are coming from somewhat.You know what left a slight bad taste in my mouth?At the end,she didnt bother to thank Naruto as a result of which she was able to get together with Sasuke.Even in the Shikamaru novel,she acts cold towards Naruto saying something to the tune of "Why dont you just **** off with Hinata?"
But TBH neither Hinata nor Sakura ever deviated from their love interests so it cuts both ways.

 

[6thHokage]

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She did offer her Naruto-kun the medicine first.