Yea, never said anything about 13 clones, all I did was provide a scan showing that Naruto back then without Kurama's friendship can make up to 13 clones in KCM let alone after they became friends. If you read through my argument you'll see that I only argued for 4 clones for his initial attack which was the whole FRS barrage. Now can we agree that Naruto can make 4 KCM clones and they all can launch at least 1 FRS? We've seen Naruto in KCM after becoming friends with Kurama and he was able to do
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even after using so much chakra already. I see no reason why he can't use CORS with a clone or the original if he's using 9 less clones than he did when he 1st headed to all the battlefields and is now friends with Kurama.
Ok, my bad for the misinterpretation. I'll agree that 4 clones is reasonable.
Ok Sasuke jumps away, then what? Like I mentioned before, he won't only have to dodge the FRS itself but the blast radius of 4 FRS and one CORS. Unless Sasuke knows the how large the blast radius will be of those combined attacks then he gets caught in the explosion.
Lol, what?
1. If FRS is coming at him from multiple sides, jumping means they go right past each other and he never gets anywhere near the blast radius, then the COFRS coming from above is hit with Amaterasu.
2. Even if it'd magically explode w/o touching anything, the blast radius of a normal FRS is
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, something Sasuke already knows as he's seen Naruto's FRS. Ay, and KCM Naruto can jump higher than that along with Ay's father let alone a Complete Legged or an Armored Legged Susanoo. The width is irrelevant since as long as he's higher than the blast, it won't touch him.
Naruto fires 4 FRS from the sides, and one from above. That's your initial set up. They come at Sasuke from the sides, he jumps, COFRS comes from above, Amaterasu turns it to flame, and then Naruto gets cut down in a heartbeat.
Even if he does survive he would have to use more chakra to reconstruct Susano as soon as possible, if not he dies.
If he does survive, it'll be because he tanked it with PS, so he won't need to reconstruct anything as there will be no damage.
Btw EMS Sasuke isn't a chakra beast like Naruto.
He doesn't need to be a chakra beast like Naruto to use his own techniques with little drawback.
-Multiple uses of Amaterasu.
-Multiple uses of Susanoo.
-Multiple uses of other techs.
-Summoning a Boss Summon.
-Using PS.
And he never showed fatigue.
While he focuses on the CORS he gets tagged by the others,
Impossible. If they throw FRS and Sasuke jumps, he won't be able to tag the others. The only time he'll take care of COFRS is when he's evaded the other FRS. Besides, Amaterasu can be used so quickly that he can handle it and still have enough time to take care of the rest.
I firmly believe that 2-3 FRS would blow the legs off of legged Susano.
Reasonable.
Once again Sasuke is going to use more chakra to reconstruct Susano. How long you think he can keep up legged Susano for?
He won't get hit, so he won't need to reconstruct everything, and like I said above. Sasuke spammed Susanoo, Amaterasu, used Genjutsu, and summoned at least twice along with using PS and he wasn't anywhere near empty. Attrition is a non factor in this fight.
Sasuke never shown
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until that chapter if he had it he would have shown that instead of legged Susano. I mean he fought Obito with only legged Susano for the duration of their fight, why? When PS would have been far more beneficial to him.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. He didn't show it simply because he unlocked it on the spot, or he chose not to. Either way, making up explanations to try and invalidate a feat that already happened isn't going to help your case.
He only showed PS after receiving Hagoromo's power up. But I could already tell that your not going to agree with this and seeing as I'll be making a thread about this later, let's agree to disagree on the PS thing till then. That by itself will be a discussion of it's own.
Fine. I'll be posting in that thread shortly.
This PS thing again...annyways never did I make "speed" the basis of my argument, hell, it was even someone else who brought it up. I just countered his argument, so I don't know why you felt the need to bring that up.
"PS Chidori won't be able to hit KCM Naruto dashing around"
Is that not your argument? Lol. That definitely seems like an assertion to me, not a counter. Anyway...
Whateves, and btw KCM Naruto's shunshin speed (even though only in short burst) is faster than jubito's flying speed. Proof of this is that mindless jubito was blitzing the shit out of everyone including Naruto and Sasuke. When he used his shunshin he was shown at one place then the next, no trajectory motion from place to place like he did in flight.
Oh boy...So now KCM Naruto moves faster than a Juubi Jinchuuriki?
1. BSM Naruto said Obito is fast. Why would he be having trouble with Obito if he's slower than Naruto in a weaker form? Makes no sense unless you assert that KCM Naruto>BSM Naruto in speed, which also makes no sense.
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If he was only as fast as Naruto himself in a weaker form, then Naruto would've easily tagged him with zero difficulty.
2. Mindless Juubito blitzed an EMS Sasuke who hadn't adjusted to his speed, and KCM Naruto, who is far slower than BSM Naruto. Second of all, EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto had to actually get used to his speed before they could track it, hence why they got blitzed earlier.
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Then there's the fact that Shunshin is trajectory motion. You not being able to see it doesn't make it some kind of teleportation. Shunshin is only high speed movement by using chakra to explode off the ground, giving the impression that you teleported. Then there's the other fact that Shunshin being burst speed doesn't automatically put it above any other speed that isn't burst speed....otherwise we'd be saying everyone's Shunshin>Fastest character's flight speed, which is false.
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Saw Naruto use shunshin and even reacted to it.
Lol, JJ Madara. How is this suppose to prove your point anyway? I figured you were going to link someone close to his actual level.
