Frog Kata is SO overrated

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Some people tend to scream when they have pain.. others don't
Don't u think Jirayja was in agonizing pain when he was impaled? U know what happened? He shrugged it off.
Same with Neji, I did not see him screamin
Those wounds would lead to shock, so that is expected.

Sasuke wasn't even left with a visible burn, so was Madara's Katon jutsu just that weak? And if it was, why did Naruto mention anything at all?
 

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Didn't blind Madara blitz Sage Mode Naruto. Then blew him away with a fire jutsu that did shit to Sasuke at point blank range.

So why are we hyping this Frog Kara fighting style?
EMS Sasuke is an another tier when compared to SM Naruto.

Let's take into the fact that the Naruto Madara blitzed was already drained of chakra, hence why he was already out of breath before Madara even got to him. Besides Sasuke who fought against JJ Obito, Naruto was constantly sharing both his and Kurama's chakra over extended periods of time, and after that he sent a Bijuu-sized Rasenshuriken before he landed thanks to the help of Sai.

He obviously was not at his best.
 

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Some people tend to scream when they have pain.. others don't
Don't u think Jirayja was in agonizing pain when he was impaled? U know what happened? He shrugged it off.
Same with Neji, I did not see him screamin
Jiraiya was impaled in the throat and body.. Same with neji most doesn't scream, especially in mangas.. Sasuke was pierced by his sword and naruto with a chidori, neither scream.
 

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It is unexplained.

Either SM Naruto isn't as durable as one would believe, or Sasuke is far more durable than one would believe.
What? You seem to be confused on the question of durability. SM Naruto was stating that it was hot, but when did Sage Mode give them durability to remove the senses of being hot or cold? Funny enough neither Naruto, Sauske, or the Fodder shinobi were affeted by this so called "hot" jutsu.

Are we really arguing about who is more durable? Like I cannot possibly understand.
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The technique Madara used expelled chakra-infused ash that blanketed a wide area, burning anyone who came into contact with it. Seeing how neither Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, or anyone else was actually BURNED, it just means it was not used to actually sear. Just as a smokescreen to get away.

That was proved when a panel later Madara moved to the Tailed Beasts
 
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What? You seem to be confused on the question of durability. SM Naruto was stating that it was hot, but when did Sage Mode give them durability to remove the senses of being hot or cold? Funny enough neither Naruto, Sauske, or the Fodder shinobi were affeted by this so called "hot" jutsu.

Are we really arguing about who is more durable? Like I cannot possibly understand.
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That's why it's an inconsistency... U_U

Naruto was in SM, that accounts for his ability to tank the fire.
Fodders were covered by a Kyuubi Cloak, that accounts for their ability to tank the fire.
Sasuke was.... bare. Are we assuming that a katon jutsu from Madara uchiha isn't enough to leave a visible mark on a base shinobi?

Not to mention the fact that these fodders were severely wounded by this blast, despite being covered in a Kyuubi cloak, which cannonically tanked a Juubi Sized Katon.

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Not tanked. Yet tanked by Base Sasuke
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Why? That is all I'm trying to figure out.
 
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OP, you're wrong.

1 - Frog Fu is a jutsu that must be actively used. It's not an automatic jutsu.
2 - Manga proves Naruto blocked Madara's attack - - Naruto arms were in front of his body blocking his attack. People need to stop claiming he was blitz.
3 - Madara's attack was directed at Naruto not Sasuke - - That's the reason Naruto felt the heat from the fire jutsu. Naruto was running towards his back. Madara turns away from Sasuke and attack Naruto. Remember he didn't want to hurt Sasuke at that time. He even stated that. To the people claiming Sasuke tanked that attack need to back it up with fact. The scene i posted doesn't' show Sasuke being attacked.

Frog Fu is very impressive. Naruto juts haven't had the opportunity to master it.
 
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EMS Sasuke is an another tier when compared to SM Naruto.

Let's take into the fact that the Naruto Madara blitzed was already drained of chakra, hence why he was already out of breath before Madara even got to him. Besides Sasuke who fought against JJ Obito, Naruto was constantly sharing both his and Kurama's chakra over extended periods of time, and after that he sent a Bijuu-sized Rasenshuriken before he landed thanks to the help of Sai.

He obviously was not at his best.
LMAO i expected nothing less from Naruto's top lawyer. You just can't take a L. smh
 

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Maybe Sasuke (Uchiha who have fire element) have a higher resistance to fire?
When they perform fire jutsu the fire comes from their mouth. It should be hot. When it's so close to his face it should burn him. So fire users have some sort of naural immunity? Or Kishi is just inconsistent which would be no suprise
 

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OP, you're wrong.

1 - Frog Fu is a jutsu that must be actively used. It's not an automatic jutsu.
2 - Manga proves Naruto blocked Madara's attack - - Naruto arms were in front of his body blocking his attack. People need to stop claiming he was blitz.
3 - Madara's attack was directed at Naruto not Sasuke - - That's the reason Naruto felt the heat from the fire jutsu.

Frog Fu is very impressive. Naruto juts haven't had the opportunity to master it.
lmao wrong!! He aimed at the ground!

well Sasuke just haven't had the opportunity to master his EMS or susanno.
 

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That's why it's an inconsistency... U_U

Naruto was in SM, that accounts for his ability to tank the fire.
Fodders were covered by a Kyuubi Cloak, that accounts for their ability to tank the fire.
Sasuke was.... bare. Are we assuming that a katon jutsu from Madara uchiha isn't enough to leave a visible mark on a base shinobi?
I see. I'll explain on what happened below a little bit in more detail on why I think this happend, and what actually happened.

Not to mention the fact that these fodders were severely wounded by this blast, despite being covered in a Kyuubi cloak, which cannonically tanked a Juubi Sized Katon.
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Why? That is all I'm trying to figure out.
Alright the ash infused chakra smokescreen did not really seem to be of an attack, but merely a way to push everyone away from him. That was clearly evident to the point of the lower panel where all those who held a Kyuubi cloak were being forced backwards, but it did not really damage them at all. It was more or less like a tiny explosion in that sense, of pushing them backwards.

There really is no clear indication as for why the Kyuubi cloak would be less powerful than the one holding it's own against the ash cloud. Other than the fact of Kurama's chakra being low? Naruto was KCM at that time, probably meaning that Kurama's chakra was more durable and potent, than the one in SM. Again this is just speculation of course. It could just be a inconsisenty.

The only people who were really damaged from the chakra cloud fell faced down, but it happened off-panel so for all we know he could have hit his head on the ground with so much concussive force, he fainted. Because their Kyuubi cloaks still remain on, which probably means that the Kyuubi cloak can only protect you from chakra techniques but not actual physical damage? Whereas Madara stands above one and taking in the Kyuubi's chakra with his left foot.


The only possibly reason for as to why Sasuke could have tanked that would be some sort of fire resistance to the heat. Whether that is possible or not, we have to some conclusion because at that time Kishimoto placed a technique onto Sasuke to remove his Sage Mode via Hashirama. So that could have been an indication for some sort of technique for Sasuke, or something on those lines.

What do you think?
 
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Well blind Madara is a lot more powerful than his previous state.

To have strength like to send sm naruto flying back is now joke.

But...
 

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Well blind Madara is a lot more powerful than his previous state.

To have strength like to send sm naruto flying back is now joke.

But...
SM naruto should've been able to stand right there and eat that kick with no problem. I guess Madara's strength was over 9000 at the time.
 

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It's not a blitz if Naruto blocked the punch/kick whatever madara used, his sensing working as usual.

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The numerous feats by jiraiya and naruto aside even a tiny frog like fukasaku was able to throw something as big as gamabunta.

It is overrated he used it alone twice and both those occasions he was manhandled (Pain and Blind Madara)
"manhandled"

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who is manhandling whom seems pretty clear.
 
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lmao wrong!! He aimed at the ground!

well Sasuke just haven't had the opportunity to master his EMS or susanno.
The fact it knocked Naruto back proves it was directed towards Naruto. The fact he turned his head away from Sasuke and towards Naruto proves it was directed at Naruto. If Madara just aimed it at the ground in front of him instead of directing it at Naruto Sasuke would have been hit. - to

Try again, but next time back up your claim with manga facts.
 

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It's so op kishi realized he can't use it anymore, similar to the substitution jutsu, but honestly it creams just about everything that Naruto can get within punching distance of.
 

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The fact it knocked Naruto back proves it was directed towards Naruto. The fact he turned his head away from Sasuke and towards Naruto proves it was directed at Naruto. If Madara just aimed it at the ground in front of him instead of directing it at Naruto Sasuke would have been hit. - to

Try again, but next time back up your claim with manga facts.

wwhatttt? You better look at that shit again.
 
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