[Discussion] Brook Vs Gladius

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Gladius wins mid diff.
On what grounds besides you love Gladius lately?

Brook is fast enough to run away from Punk Rock Fest before it explodes if he runs once Gladius starts inflating the ground. He's durable enough to survive a Ursu Blast from Kuma, I highly doubt Gladius' Punk Rock Fest contains as much impact as an attack from Kuma. Brook has Lullaby Parry which can put him to sleep, Brook can change his opponents mood with his music and as he has shown against the New Fishman Pirates he can hypnotize his enemies as well. Brook also has a harder time being injured than a human body.

I guess I am disagreeing with you, though there's a chance Gladius could beat Brook, but I wonder what it is about Gladius you assume could beat Brook? Is it his speed? Is it his strength? Because I really don't see Gladius being significantly faste rthan Brook if at all and I don't think Gladius is as strong as Kuma who Brook stayed conscious from after being hit with his DF or Oars Jr. who actually knocked out Brooks.
 

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On what grounds besides you love Gladius lately?

Brook is fast enough to run away from Punk Rock Fest before it explodes if he runs once Gladius starts inflating the ground. He's durable enough to survive a Ursu Blast from Kuma, I highly doubt Gladius' Punk Rock Fest contains as much impact as an attack from Kuma. Brook has Lullaby Parry which can put him to sleep, Brook can change his opponents mood with his music and as he has shown against the New Fishman Pirates he can hypnotize his enemies as well. Brook also has a harder time being injured than a human body.

I guess I am disagreeing with you, though there's a chance Gladius could beat Brook, but I wonder what it is about Gladius you assume could beat Brook? Is it his speed? Is it his strength? Because I really don't see Gladius being significantly faste rthan Brook if at all and I don't think Gladius is as strong as Kuma who Brook stayed conscious from after being hit with his DF or Oars Jr. who actually knocked out Brooks.
Brook isn't very durable, he won't be able to handle much attacks from Gladius. Gladius is fast as well, he could catch Kabu (who was able to push all the Executives out of the way before a single tear could hit them) and then proceeded to easily catch Toy Soldier, and what speed feats does Brook have except for being called fast by fodders? Him withstanding Ursus Shock is not impressive at all considering that the Rolling Pirates did as well. If Brook tries to put Gladius to sleep, Gladius can either use Catapult Punk to put a stop to it or activate Fashion Punk so that even if he falls asleep, an attack from Brook would cause him to blow up and kill Brook.
 

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Gladius mid-high diff., I feel that people are going to underrate Brook on this one though. He can give Gladius a good fight.
 

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Brook isn't very durable, he won't be able to handle much attacks from Gladius. Gladius is fast as well, he could catch Kabu (who was able to push all the Executives out of the way before a single tear could hit them) and then proceeded to easily catch Toy Soldier, and what speed feats does Brook have except for being called fast by fodders? Him withstanding Ursus Shock is not impressive at all considering that the Rolling Pirates did as well. If Brook tries to put Gladius to sleep, Gladius can either use Catapult Punk to put a stop to it or activate Fashion Punk so that even if he falls asleep, an attack from Brook would cause him to blow up and kill Brook.
Brook would have already won the fight if Gladius falls asleep, no one said this has to be a fight to the death, also do we know for a fact Gladius' DF stays active after he loses consciousness?

Brook is very durable, besides fighting Kuma, he fought Oars jr and didn't break. Plus milk has been shown to heal his bones.

Brooks sword can freeze and his swordsmanship was praised by a Wano Samurai.

I know Gladius is fast which is why I said not significantly faster, Brook can run fast enough to run on water. His humming slash can also be considered a speed feat for how quick he can cut before an opponent can realize it. That slash and his freezing technique = game over for most.

The Rolling Pirates all got knocked out from Kuma didn't they, I don't recall, Brook remained conscious proving he has good durability, plus the fact that his body doesn't/can't take damage the same way a humans can because he has no organs or nerves. A fall would hurt a human more than Brook.

So again I don't really see speed being a factor as they are both quick, You didn't really make any argument about Gladius' explosions being stronger than Kuma's shock and it's safe to say Kuma's shocks>Bart's Barriers. Why would Catapult Punc be a threat, that can be dodged it's just a simple projectile attack. You act like Fashion Punc is and be all end all of defense, Brook could pop him and take the explosion without fear of dying as he's already dead, it'd be pointless for Gladius to use.
 

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Brook would have already won the fight if Gladius falls asleep, no one said this has to be a fight to the death, also do we know for a fact Gladius' DF stays active after he loses consciousness?
Gladius isn't just going to stand there and let Brook put him to sleep. He can just use Catapult Punk on Brook before he can finish playing his song.

Brook is very durable, besides fighting Kuma, he fought Oars jr and didn't break. Plus milk has been shown to heal his bones.
He took one punch from Oars, who is pretty weak by NW standards. Multiple hits from Gladius can easily do more damage than that. Why would you bring milk into this? Unless they are fighting on a dairy farm, I don't see where Brook would get this milk from.

Brooks sword can freeze and his swordsmanship was praised by a Wano Samurai.
Kin'emon isn't even that strong so being praised by him isn't much of a feat.

I know Gladius is fast which is why I said not significantly faster, Brook can run fast enough to run on water. His humming slash can also be considered a speed feat for how quick he can cut before an opponent can realize it. That slash and his freezing technique = game over for most. .
Brook can run on water because of his light weight iirc. I don't see how Brook's humming slash would be useful. There isn't much of a benefit from it taking a few seconds for your opponents to realize they were damaged, it just gives them some extra time to attack.
The Rolling Pirates all got knocked out from Kuma didn't they, I don't recall, Brook remained conscious proving he has good durability, plus the fact that his body doesn't/can't take damage the same way a humans can because he has no organs or nerves. A fall would hurt a human more than Brook. .
All of the SHs except for Zoro and Sanji got knocked out for a few minutes. A fall, depending on how big it is, can shatter Brook's bones, which is fatal for him.

So again I don't really see speed being a factor as they are both quick, You didn't really make any argument about Gladius' explosions being stronger than Kuma's shock and it's safe to say Kuma's shocks>Bart's Barriers. Why would Catapult Punc be a threat, that can be dodged it's just a simple projectile attack. You act like Fashion Punc is and be all end all of defense, Brook could pop him and take the explosion without fear of dying as he's already dead, it'd be pointless for Gladius to use.
Bart's barriers are a lot stronger than the Ursus Shock that Kuma used on the SHs. That attack could only knock out Paradise fodders for a few minutes, so it isn't very strong at all. Brook would have some trouble playing his song if he's constantly having to dodge Catapult Punk and Gladius is the best marksman in the DD Pirates so hitting Brook wouldn't be too hard. I don't think you understand Brook's DF. It allows him to live twice, and he's already died once, so if he dies again, it's game over. His bones would be shattered and he would die if he tried to tank Fashion Punk.
 

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Gladius isn't just going to stand there and let Brook put him to sleep. He can just use Catapult Punk on Brook before he can finish playing his song.


He took one punch from Oars, who is pretty weak by NW standards. Multiple hits from Gladius can easily do more damage than that. Why would you bring milk into this? Unless they are fighting on a dairy farm, I don't see where Brook would get this milk from.

Kin'emon isn't even that strong so being praised by him isn't much of a feat.


Brook can run on water because of his light weight iirc. I don't see how Brook's humming slash would be useful. There isn't much of a benefit from it taking a few seconds for your opponents to realize they were damaged, it just gives them some extra time to attack.

All of the SHs except for Zoro and Sanji got knocked out for a few minutes. A fall, depending on how big it is, can shatter Brook's bones, which is fatal for him.


Bart's barriers are a lot stronger than the Ursus Shock that Kuma used on the SHs. That attack could only knock out Paradise fodders for a few minutes, so it isn't very strong at all. Brook would have some trouble playing his song if he's constantly having to dodge Catapult Punk and Gladius is the best marksman in the DD Pirates so hitting Brook wouldn't be too hard. I don't think you understand Brook's DF. It allows him to live twice, and he's already died once, so if he dies again, it's game over. His bones would be shattered and he would die if he tried to tank Fashion Punk.
Yeah Oars is weak, which is why he's a legend and why MarineFord kinda lost their shit when Oars jr appeared, you're right.

Do you know how sounds work, as long as you're in the vicinity to hear it, it's already got you. Catapult Punc won't stop Brook playing his guitar. "creating a soothing tune that makes anyone who hears it immediately fall asleep. " He doesn't have to finish the entire song.

The milk enhances his durability stats, and where does Franky get cola from, it's a work of fiction where good guys get the edge, he'd find milk in some weird round-about comedic way as is the style for most of Brooks fights, maybe he carries an extra in his afro which is one of the reasons he protects it so much. Either way the point is Brook can repair damage done to him while Gladius can not, your trivializing of the stat doesn't nullify it's validity.

Wano Samurai are known for their skill and Kinemon is able to cut fire a feat which gained praise from Zoro the inevitable strongest swordsman. I love that you try to downplay stats and hype from characters like Elbaf Giants and Wano Samurai, let me guess next Fishmen aren't really strong either?

"There isn't much of a benefit from it taking a few seconds for your opponents to realize they were damaged, it just gives them some extra time to attack." Brooks' sword now freezes the opponent so it wouldn't give them any extra time to attack, plus if the cut's deep enough when they tried is when they'd realized how bad they'd been cut and no attack would follow. The attack itself is still impressive with how quick and efficient the strike is, it's not the top skill of his nations assault squad for nothing.

Brook can run on water because he is light, yes but it's the same light-ness(?) of his bones that allow him to run fast enough to stay on water.
Brook's main advantage is his tremendous speed, which is possible because of the light weight of his skeleton body. This allows him to deal extremely accurate blows and quick maneuvers before his opponent can react...One advantage is that because he is just comprised of light weighted bones, he can use his speed and light weight to run across water, but, like all Devil Fruit users, he can still drown when submerged

" A fall, depending on how big it is, can shatter Brook's bones, which is fatal for him."
Yes, but that same fall would be fatal for a human as well, but a stab that kills a human won't kill Brook.

"All of the SHs except for Zoro and Sanji got knocked out for a few minutes"
"Brook also has somewhat good endurance, as he was able to remain conscious after Bartholomew Kuma used his Ursus Shock on Thriller Bark, however he could not get up or he simply decided not to."

"Bart's barriers are a lot stronger than the Ursus Shock that Kuma used on the SHs"
We're done here, Kuma is so far above Bart it's not funny. People really need to stop jumping on the current chapter guys so much, everytime someone new comes it's "oh they're the greatest" and everyone ignores the previous stuff. Kuma would slap Bart and his barriers around and this is coming from someone who likes Bart wayyyy more than Kuma as a character.


Brook can heal his bones with calcium and can reattach his bones with his energy from the yomi yomi. There's no proof breaking his bones will remove his soul from existence and as long as his soul is around he can repair and reorganize his body. I think you're going off pre-skip Brooks skills.
 
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Yeah Oars is weak, which is why he's a legend and why MarineFord kinda lost their shit when Oars jr appeared, you're right.

Do you know how sounds work, as long as you're in the vicinity to hear it, it's already got you. Catapult Punc won't stop Brook playing his guitar. "creating a soothing tune that makes anyone who hears it immediately fall asleep. " He doesn't have to finish the entire song.

The milk enhances his durability stats, and where does Franky get cola from, it's a work of fiction where good guys get the edge, he'd find milk in some weird round-about comedic way as is the style for most of Brooks fights, maybe he carries an extra in his afro which is one of the reasons he protects it so much. Either way the point is Brook can repair damage done to him while Gladius can not, your trivializing of the stat doesn't nullify it's validity.

Wano Samurai are known for their skill and Kinemon is able to cut fire a feat which gained praise from Zoro the inevitable strongest swordsman. I love that you try to downplay stats and hype from characters like Elbaf Giants and Wano Samurai, let me guess next Fishmen aren't really strong either?

"There isn't much of a benefit from it taking a few seconds for your opponents to realize they were damaged, it just gives them some extra time to attack." Brooks' sword now freezes the opponent so it wouldn't give them any extra time to attack, plus if the cut's deep enough when they tried is when they'd realized how bad they'd been cut and no attack would follow. The attack itself is still impressive with how quick and efficient the strike is, it's not the top skill of his nations assault squad for nothing.

Brook can run on water because he is light, yes but it's the same light-ness(?) of his bones that allow him to run fast enough to stay on water.
Brook's main advantage is his tremendous speed, which is possible because of the light weight of his skeleton body. This allows him to deal extremely accurate blows and quick maneuvers before his opponent can react...One advantage is that because he is just comprised of light weighted bones, he can use his speed and light weight to run across water, but, like all Devil Fruit users, he can still drown when submerged

" A fall, depending on how big it is, can shatter Brook's bones, which is fatal for him."
Yes, but that same fall would be fatal for a human as well, but a stab that kills a human won't kill Brook.

"All of the SHs except for Zoro and Sanji got knocked out for a few minutes"
"Brook also has somewhat good endurance, as he was able to remain conscious after Bartholomew Kuma used his Ursus Shock on Thriller Bark, however he could not get up or he simply decided not to."

"Bart's barriers are a lot stronger than the Ursus Shock that Kuma used on the SHs"
We're done here, Kuma is so far above Bart it's not funny. People really need to stop jumping on the current chapter guys so much, everytime someone new comes it's "oh they're the greatest" and everyone ignores the previous stuff. Kuma would slap Bart and his barriers around and this is coming from someone who likes Bart wayyyy more than Kuma as a character.


Brook can heal his bones with calcium and can reattach his bones with his energy from the yomi yomi. There's no proof breaking his bones will remove his soul from existence and as long as his soul is around he can repair and reorganize his body. I think you're going off pre-skip Brooks skills.
And yet the Pre-TS Straw Hats beat him and Nighmare Luffy curbstomped his ass even though he had help from Moria.

So I guess Brook>>Roger since all he needs to do is start playing the song to make the victim fall asleep. What proof do you have that he doesn't need to complete the song before it effects the victim?

That's not how VS threads work dude.

Zoro said that he would be interested in learning that technique. Doesn't make Kin'emon strong. Nami wanted to learn about the weather from the Weatherians, so I guess they are stronger than we thought.

Still doesn't make him faster than Gladius.

Not if that stab shatters his bones.

Still not impressive since fodders got up a few minutes after that attack.

Don't act like a simple-minded plebeian. I said the version Kuma used on the SHs is weaker than Barto's barriers. Just because Kuma is stronger than Barto doesn't mean that his attacks, no matter what, will be stronger than Barto's. The version of Ursus Shock that Kuma used on the SHs is weaker than Barto's barriers.

Plot doesn't affect this match, so Brook isn't going to randomly have a bottle of milk on him. As long as his bones are not hurt any attacks will not go to his core like when Zeo beheaded Brook, his soul managed to repair it and connect his bones together again. An explosion would damage his bones, and he would die if it was severe enough.
 

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Gladius > Franky >= Pink > Brook

Gladius takes this with mid difficulty at most
Really?!?!
What does gladuis do to a Radical beam or a Fucking coup de vent?!?!
Nothing. He has no speed feats nor any endurance feats nor does he have any indacation of long range power.


Pretty sure pink could roflstomp gladius anyways.
 

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How can you even consider that?
Brook stomps.
From the great mind that brought you Robin>Zoro and Sanji.
Brook can't be killed .
Yes he can.
If brook gets his violin out he just hypno's him.
Gladius isn't just going to stand there and let Brook finish his song.
If brook gets his sword out he just slashes him up before Gladus can blink.
Gladius is just as fast, if not faster than Brook, so no.

Really?!?!
What does gladuis do to a Radical beam or a Fucking coup de vent?!?!
Nothing. He has no speed feats nor any endurance feats nor does he have any indacation of long range power.


Pretty sure pink could roflstomp gladius anyways.
Please do not post in this section if you do not read the One Piece Manga. Gladius was fast enough to grab Kabu (who could push all the Executives out of the way before a single tear could hit them). Gladius was durable enough to only receive a small amount of damage from Jet Stamp, an attack that is stronger than Coup de Vent. Radical Beam takes time to charge, so Gladius has plenty of time to get out of the way. Franky is mostly inorganic material, so if Gladius touches Franky, he can just pop him. Senor Pink gets beat by Gladius, seriously, what makes you think Pink can beat Gladius? The only thing Pink has over Gladius is slightly better durability. Gladius is faster and more powerful than Pink.
 
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Please do not post in this section if you do not read the One Piece Manga. Gladius was fast enough to grab Kabu (who could push all the Executives out of the way before a single tear could hit them). Gladius was durable enough to only receive a small amount of damage from Jet Stamp, an attack that is stronger than Coup de Vent. Radical Beam takes time to charge, so Gladius has plenty of time to get out of the way. Franky is mostly inorganic material, so if Gladius touches Franky, he can just pop him. Senor Pink gets beat by Gladius, seriously, what makes you think Pink can beat Gladius? The only thing Pink has over Gladius is slightly better durability. Gladius is faster and more powerful than Pink.[/QUOTE]

Jet stamp is not stronger than Post-TS Franky's Signature attack.

Franky is mostly inorganic material yes but if you are close enough to touch franky what is stopping him from punching gladuis in the face with Franky boxing or a Iron hammer?

Gladuis isn't fast. You know who could outspeed him, Barto. Barto's round barrier was faster than the time it took for Gladuis to blow up robin..

Speaking of charging. All Gladuis'es attacks take time to charge. All of them.

Franky can hit him hard in the face while he's charging.
Pink can swim away.
Brook can just pop him with a sword and then put himself back together.

Please dont respond if you don't properly read one piece.
 

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Jet stamp is not stronger than Post-TS Franky's Signature attack.

Franky is mostly inorganic material yes but if you are close enough to touch franky what is stopping him from punching gladuis in the face with Franky boxing or a Iron hammer?

Gladuis isn't fast. You know who could outspeed him, Barto. Barto's round barrier was faster than the time it took for Gladuis to blow up robin..

Speaking of charging. All Gladuis'es attacks take time to charge. All of them.

Franky can hit him hard in the face while he's charging.
Pink can swim away.
Brook can just pop him with a sword and then put himself back together.

Please dont respond if you don't properly read one piece.
Coup de Vent has no feats.

All he has to do is simply touch Franky, and he will pop in a few seconds.

I'm talking about foot speed. Fashion Punk doesn't detonate until someone damages Gladius

The difference is Franky is slow and won't be able to dodge most of them.

If Cavendish couldn't strike Gladius when he was charging up Punk Rock Fest, then I don't see how Franky would be able to easily hit him like that.

Assuming he can swim fast enough to escape the explosion's range.

Brook can't heal cracked bones without milk. He can only reconnect bones, not repair bones. Gladius can match Brook's speed so he isn't just going to be able to speed blitz Gladius. Brook also has no way of surviving Fashion Punk without running away from the fight.

I don't think you should be saying people aren't reading the manga properly when you believe that Robin is stronger than Zoro and Sanji.
 

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Coup de Vent has no feats.

All he has to do is simply touch Franky, and he will pop in a few seconds.

I'm talking about foot speed. Fashion Punk doesn't detonate until someone damages Gladius

The difference is Franky is slow and won't be able to dodge most of them.

If Cavendish couldn't strike Gladius when he was charging up Punk Rock Fest, then I don't see how Franky would be able to easily hit him like that.

Assuming he can swim fast enough to escape the explosion's range.

Brook can't heal cracked bones without milk. He can only reconnect bones, not repair bones. Gladius can match Brook's speed so he isn't just going to be able to speed blitz Gladius. Brook also has no way of surviving Fashion Punk without running away from the fight.

I don't think you should be saying people aren't reading the manga properly when you believe that Robin is stronger than Zoro and Sanji.
First of all.

A FEW SECONDS
LMFAO
you know what can be done in a few seconds?!!? How many times someone can be stabbed in a few seconds?!

Second of all.
Gladius can't match brooks speed. Brook moves so fast that no one has yet to see him do his quick kill. Nigga can run on water. He is like speed jesus. Call him Brook D sonic cause his attacks go fast.
Definitely faster than a second.

Third of all
I said robin can beat them
Not that she is stronger.

And I am done with your stupid ass.
It took me less than a few seconds to write this.
LEL
 

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First of all.

A FEW SECONDS
LMFAO
you know what can be done in a few seconds?!!? How many times someone can be stabbed in a few seconds?!

Second of all.
Gladius can't match brooks speed. Brook moves so fast that no one has yet to see him do his quick kill. Nigga can run on water. He is like speed jesus. Call him Brook D sonic cause his attacks go fast.
Definitely faster than a second.

Third of all
I said robin can beat them
Not that she is stronger.

And I am done with your stupid ass.
It took me less than a few seconds to write this.
LEL
Yes, plenty can be done in a few seconds, but, you see, Gladius isn't a statue that is just going to stand there and let Franky's attacks hit him. Franky doesn't even have a knife or sword, so I have no idea why you brought up stabbing.

Speed blitzing fodders is the only speed feat Brook has. He can run on water because of his light weight.

In a SH ranking list, you put Robin at number 2, so that means you thought she was stronger than them.

Enzoo might have been on to something. You are the most retarded dude in the OP section, either that, or you're just a troll. It took you less than a few seconds to type that because you didn't even refute any of my statements.
 

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Yes, plenty can be done in a few seconds, but, you see, Gladius isn't a statue that is just going to stand there and let Franky's attacks hit him. Franky doesn't even have a knife or sword, so I have no idea why you brought up stabbing.
1. He has to keep contact as show when he tried to blow up Kryos in toy form
2. Radical beam cuts and is way quicker to charge than a few seconds.
3. His fruit is the inflation fruit so even if he did inflate franky wouldn't Coup' de vent VENT the pressure anyways...

Speed blitzing fodders is the only speed feat Brook has. He can run on water because of his light weight.
Also he speed blitz through a chain that was spinning so fast it could cut things.
You know how fast you have to swing a big chain so it can cut things?!
And then brook walked through that shit at FI and then was fine.

In a SH ranking list, you put Robin at number 2, so that means you thought she was stronger than them.
Because she can beat them.
Not because she is stronger than them.
...
I don't think you know how list work.
Enzoo might have been on to something. You are the most retarded dude in the OP section, either that, or you're just a troll. It took you less than a few seconds to type that because you didn't even refute any of my statements.
Coming from the guy who told me in a vm that Enzoo is just a troll and to not care about what he has to say..
 

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1. He has to keep contact as show when he tried to blow up Kryos in toy form
2. Radical beam cuts and is way quicker to charge than a few seconds.
3. His fruit is the inflation fruit so even if he did inflate franky wouldn't Coup' de vent VENT the pressure anyways1. No he doesn't, as seen with Punk Rock Fest, He just chose to stay there when he was inflating Toy Soldier..
2. It has a charge time and Franky inflating would change the direction of his attack.
3. Coup de Vent uses up cola, so if Gladius can just keep doing that until Franky is out of cola. Assuming Franky could even stop the inflation that way.


Also he speed blitz through a chain that was spinning so fast it could cut things.
You know how fast you have to swing a big chain so it can cut things?!
And then brook walked through that shit at FI and then was fine..
Scans?

Because she can beat them.
Not because she is stronger than them.
..I don't think you know how list work.
In lists, you rank the characters based on who is stronger. For example, Enel would be higher than Pre-TS Luffy in a tier list.


Coming from the guy who told me in a vm that Enzoo is just a troll and to not care about what he has to say..
Just ignore that last part of my post, I said it in the spur of the moment and don't really mean it.
 
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