MS Sasuke vs Shisui

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Conditions
Due to lack of feats in the Anime and Manga you can use Shisui's feats from the Video game for this Match up plus he has both his MS and MS Sasuke is uninjured and has no eyesight problems at the start of this Match.

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Sasuke vs Danzo

Intel
Full Intel on both sides

Restrictions
Shisui can't use KA until 25 Minutes after the match starts
Sasuke can't use Armored Susano'o


Mindset
Both sides are looking to spill blood
 
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[video=youtube;bW-i-BGEiyw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW-i-BGEiyw[/video]

These are Shisui's feats
 

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Sasuke wins high diff. Shisui's Susanoo from the Video Game only seems to be a Complete Susanoo. Sasuke matches it with his own, sets up Kirin and obliterates his Susanoo, then Sasuke finishes it with Susanoo or Amaterasu.
 

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Sasuke has a wider variety of moves he can use, with KA restricted sasuke wins well within the time limit. Due to the caliber of the battle shisui may not even have enough chakra to use KA should he manage to survive before he can use it.

Also another note, the video game poorly portrays shisui's speed, we'd need manga panels to accurately judge that.
 

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Sasuke has a wider variety of moves he can use, with KA restricted sasuke wins well within the time limit. Due to the caliber of the battle shisui may not even have enough chakra to use KA should he manage to survive before he can use it.

Also another note, the video game poorly portrays shisui's speed, we'd need manga panels to accurately judge that.

He was considered Konoha's fastest Ninja not including Minato
 

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He was considered Konoha's fastest Ninja not including Minato

Hiruzen was considered konoha's strongest kage. Hype is meaningless without the actual feats, all we have to base shisui's speed on is word of mouth.
 

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Unrestrict KA and Sasuke still wins.

Shisui's shunshin probably no better than V1 Ay, which Sasuke was able to track and fight against just fine.

MS counters other MS Genjutsu does it not. Sasuke dispelled/resisted Tsukuyomi with just 3 tomoe. The sharingan sees chakra and it's colour. So Sasuke can clearly see when Shisui is trying to use KA, just like Ao did, and then break the genjutsu.

Shisui's speed and shadow clones will be a bit problematic. But Sasuke has more versatility feat wise. Chidori stream help, Aoda summon can distract shisui as well.
 

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Unrestrict KA and Sasuke still wins.

Shisui's shunshin probably no better than V1 Ay, which Sasuke was able to track and fight against just fine.

MS counters other MS Genjutsu does it not. Sasuke dispelled/resisted Tsukuyomi with just 3 tomoe. The sharingan sees chakra and it's colour. So Sasuke can clearly see when Shisui is trying to use KA, just like Ao did, and then break the genjutsu.

Shisui's speed and shadow clones will be a bit problematic. But Sasuke has more versatility feat wise. Chidori stream help, Aoda summon can distract shisui as well.

KA can't be resisted by anybody bar Perfect Jins (Possibly) and Rinnegan users if I'm not mistaken. It was said it would work on Obito who is also an MS user. That's why it's the strongest genjutsu in the Manga excluding IT.
 

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KA can't be resisted by anybody bar Perfect Jins (Possibly) and Rinnegan users if I'm not mistaken. It was said it would work on Obito who is also an MS user. That's why it's the strongest genjutsu in the Manga excluding IT.

who said it would work on obito? did obito himself state that, or danzo make that assumption?
 

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Sasuke takes it mid-diff.
He has a wider variety of justu and better feats to back him up.
Shisui is cool and all, but that's not his match. :yeah:
 

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Danzo himself stated it. Why do you think Obito wanted Shisui's eye so badly?

everyone wanted shisuis eye. its a useful eye. kabuto wanted it too. That's no different to obito wanted the rinnegan so badly as well.

Danzo is neither an uchiha, nor does he know all their clan secrets. It wouldn't be the first time someone made a claim that was false. Kakashi said he'd use his kamui to make Obito vanish, kakashi was so sure of himself. Yet we all know full well it doesn't work.
 

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Unrestrict KA and Sasuke still wins.

Shisui's shunshin probably no better than V1 Ay, which Sasuke was able to track and fight against just fine.

MS counters other MS Genjutsu does it not. Sasuke dispelled/resisted Tsukuyomi with just 3 tomoe. The sharingan sees chakra and it's colour. So Sasuke can clearly see when Shisui is trying to use KA, just like Ao did, and then break the genjutsu.

Shisui's speed and shadow clones will be a bit problematic. But Sasuke has more versatility feat wise. Chidori stream help, Aoda summon can distract shisui as well.


Break Kotoamatsukami ? Infinite Tsukuyomi couldn't even catch 4 edo into it's genjutsu when Kotoamatsukami could. Sasuke isn't breaking that no way in hell aspecially with A mangekyou
 

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Unrestrict KA and Sasuke still wins.

Shisui's shunshin probably no better than V1 Ay, which Sasuke was able to track and fight against just fine.

MS counters other MS Genjutsu does it not. Sasuke dispelled/resisted Tsukuyomi with just 3 tomoe. The sharingan sees chakra and it's colour. So Sasuke can clearly see when Shisui is trying to use KA, just like Ao did, and then break the genjutsu.

Shisui's speed and shadow clones will be a bit problematic. But Sasuke has more versatility feat wise. Chidori stream help, Aoda summon can distract shisui as well.

Uh, Itachi was planning on controlling EMS Sasuke w/ Koto let alone MS Sasuke. He isn't breaking it. He won't be able to anticipate it, nor will he be able to stop it from happening. There is no breaking it considering once he's caught, he won't even know that he's being controlled. There's also the fact that it doesn't require eye contact.
 

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"Shisui of the Body Flicker"

[ ][ ]. Danzo totally outsped Sasuke in this instance and had already blitzed Karin by the time Sasuke could react. Danzo never displayed this kind of speed in his entire fight with Sasuke, until he regained control of Shisui's eye. Obito even notes how Danzo regains control over the eye right after Danzo uses his shunshin. This leads me to think that this specific form of shunshin is actually a sort of dojutsu linked to Shisui's eye enhancing his speed hence why Shisui was called "Shunshin no Shisui". So Shisui could potentially pull off a win here if he can consistently avoid Sasuke's attacks until he's able to use KA then one shots him...though 25 minutes is way too long for him to wait, or fight completely on the defensive.

Sasuke still wins this though, Shisui just lacks feats. Kirin would destroy his featless Susano'o then Sasuke kills him.
 

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"Shisui of the Body Flicker"

[ ][ ]. Danzo totally outsped Sasuke in this instance and had already blitzed Karin by the time Sasuke could react. Danzo never displayed this kind of speed in his entire fight with Sasuke, until he regained control of Shisui's eye. Obito even notes how Danzo regains control over the eye right after Danzo uses his shunshin. This leads me to think that this specific form of shunshin is actually a sort of dojutsu linked to Shisui's eye enhancing his speed hence why Shisui was called "Shunshin no Shisui". So Shisui could potentially pull off a win here if he can consistently avoid Sasuke's attacks until he's able to use KA then one shots him...though 25 minutes is way too long for him to wait, or fight completely on the defensive.

Sasuke still wins this though, Shisui just lacks feats. Kirin would destroy his featless Susano'o then Sasuke kills him.

Or Danzo just used the sharingans ability of enhanced precog to avoid sasuke and move out of the way. That's some speculation you have there, but I think you're over thinking it.

3 tomoe danzo will of course be able to avoid a sharinganless sasuke strike.

Danzo didn't have sharigan precog for the entirety of that fight. The sharingan in his arm only acted as pawns for izanagi. But they weren't connected to his eye sockets, so they didn't actually act as eyes.
Uh, Itachi was planning on controlling EMS Sasuke w/ Koto let alone MS Sasuke. He isn't breaking it. He won't be able to anticipate it, nor will he be able to stop it from happening. There is no breaking it considering once he's caught, he won't even know that he's being controlled. There's also the fact that it doesn't require eye contact.

yeah that's true. I just thought that if you are aware you are being controlled, then you can overcome it. So if sasuke sees the change in color in shisuis eyes, then he'd know it's KA.
 
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