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Sasuke teleported Kaguya to him and Naruto.
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Swapped with nothing vs Naruto.

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So there are different ways his eye ability works from what was shown in the manga.


Naruto = Sasuke. Yin = Yang. No other way around it it's the way Kishi made it.
He only uses the "swap" feature to extend his jutsu's range. He simply teleported in that last panel....
 
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I don't have the time nor the patience to explain how S/T works in this series and it's limitations.

Kamui can't warp someone from the inside,FTG can't teleport the user(or in this case marked kunai) inside a body.So what makes you think Sasuke's can do the same thing?
for the love of god.......

Kamui can only warp what the eye see so he can't us it inside the body.

FTG needs marking so he can't teleport inside someone and on top of that you can't teleport if there isn't enough space in the desired location (some one standing in the location or a something solid).

The human body have some free spaces like the lung for air so teleporting flames inside the lung is not far fetched.
 

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I can't deny manga facts, though that seems ... weird.

The Kaguya one seems a bit asspull-y doesn't it? Was he even looking in the direction of Kaguya, or did I miss something?

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Nah Naruto and Sasuke was standing side by side Naruto went and used sexy jutsu on Kaguya after Sasuke used Amaterasu on her. Naruto turned around and Sasuke either used his ST to get up there with Naruto or jumped and then used ST to teleport Kaguya in between them. But it's pretty hard to see in manga where stuff kind skips.
He only uses the "swap" feature to extend his jutsu's range. He simply teleported in that last panel....
Ya, to increase the range he needs to swap. But some people think he needs to swap with everything just to use his eye ability, when his eye ability works in different ways.
 
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I'm talking about the fight in general. Re-read the posts for better clarification, there was no downplay in the entirely. I brought up a few points if Kishimoto both made them fight unrestricted with my knowledge.
Then if that's the case then you are supporting my argument because plot is nerfing everybody.

they way you dished it out on my sounded as if I offended you by saying plot nerfing them.
 
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Sasuke teleported Kaguya to him and Naruto.
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Swapped with nothing vs Naruto.

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So there are different ways his eye ability works from what was shown in the manga.


Naruto = Sasuke. Yin = Yang. No other way around it it's the way Kishi made it.
I said that. You're missing the key point of my explaination.

Naruto will always overpower Sasuke in strength, but Sasuke's rinnegan absorbs Naruto's attacks.

We all know from VOTE 2 That Naruto's Ashura avatar + Sage Mode overpowers a Regular Rinne-Sharingan PS by A LOT. However Sasuke's powers of S/T allow him a greater range of flexability and other uses for him to counter's Naruto's brute strength.

Naruto - Yang - Brute power
Sasuke - Yin - Tactics and precise power

Nah Naruto and Sasuke was standing side by side Naruto went and used sexy jutsu on Kaguya after Sasuke used Amaterasu on her. Naruto turned around and Sasuke either used his ST to get up there with Naruto or jumped and then used ST to teleport Kaguya in between them. But it's pretty hard to see in manga where stuff kind skips.

Ya, to increase the range he needs to swap. But some people think he needs to swap with everything just to use his eye ability, when his eye ability works in different ways.
I guess we'll see it more clearly during the anime.
Thank you!
 
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Then if that's the case then you are supporting my argument because plot is nerfing everybody.

they way you dished it out on my sounded as if I offended you by saying plot nerfing them.
Yeah I agree with what you said. Kishimoto is always making fights one sided.

Though what I do disagree on is the lung thing. Sasuke would need to see the lung to swap with it bro, other than that you're making good points here.
 

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Nah Naruto and Sasuke was standing side by side Naruto went and used sexy jutsu on Kaguya after Sasuke used Amaterasu on her. Naruto turned around and Sasuke either used his ST to get up there with Naruto or jumped and then used ST to teleport Kaguya in between them. But it's pretty hard to see in manga where stuff kind skips.
the smoke from naruto's transformation was there so sasuke teleported kaguya between him and naruto without looking at her.....well his genjutsu: rinnegan is a genjutsu that does not need eye contact so maybe he doesn't need to look at somthing to teleport it as long he knows it's right there.
 

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I said that. You're missing the key point of my explaination.

Naruto will always overpower Sasuke in strength, but Sasuke's rinnegan absorbs Naruto's attacks.

We all know from VOTE 2 That Naruto's Ashura avatar + Sage Mode overpowers a Regular Rinne-Sharingan PS by A LOT. However Sasuke's powers of S/T allow him a greater range of flexability and other uses for him to counter's Naruto's brute strength.

Naruto - Yang - Brute power
Sasuke - Yin - Tactics and precise power



I guess we'll see it more clearly during the anime.
Thank you!
Well i can sorta agree if it's Naruto's SM and above. Because i think base Naruto = Base Sasuke in strength.

the smoke from naruto's transformation was there so sasuke teleported kaguya between him and naruto without looking at her.....well his genjutsu: rinnegan is a genjutsu that does not need eye contact so maybe he doesn't need to look at somthing to teleport it as long he knows it's right there.
That wouldn't make sense teleportation without eye contact would be to OP. Sasuke had to at least saw her to teleport her into the middle of them both.
 
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Yeah I agree with what you said. Kishimoto is always making fights one sided.

Though what I do disagree on is the lung thing. Sasuke would need to see the lung to swap with it bro, other than that you're making good points here.
not really since he teleported kaguya between him and naruto without looking at her so and the same goes for madara so maybe he does not need to see it to teleport it or anything else as long he know it's right there.
 
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not really since he teleported kaguya between him and naruto without looking at her so and the same goes for madara so maybe he does not need to see it to teleport it or anything else as long he know it's right there.
Being able to see Kaguya and seeing her lung are two different things. He managed to use a genjutsu on the tailed beasts with a GLANCE, so it's safe to assume he can use his S/T on objects he viewed momentarily.

Saying he can swap with a lung is straight up inaccurate.
 

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for the love of god.......

Kamui can only warp what the eye see so he can't us it inside the body.

FTG needs marking so he can't teleport inside someone and on top of that you can't teleport if there isn't enough space in the desired location (some one standing in the location or a something solid).

The human body have some free spaces like the lung for air so teleporting flames inside the lung is not far fetched.
And Sasuke's S/T jutsu is bound by the same mechanics,ergo he can't teleport anything that his eye is incapable of seeing.How f*cking hard is that to understand?:|
 

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Well i can sorta agree if it's Naruto's SM and above. Because i think base Naruto = Base Sasuke in strength.


That wouldn't make sense teleportation without eye contact would be to OP. Sasuke had to at least saw her to teleport her into the middle of them both.
OP=/=wrong just look at kamui.

he wasn't looking at kaguya and he didn't when he teleported madara too the requirements are:

1-the target is in the radius.

2-he knows where the target is and where it should be moved no eye contact needed.

when sasuke used katon on naruto and teleported behind him I'm sure he couldn't see him from the flames but he knew naruto was there so he teleported.
 

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Being able to see Kaguya and seeing her lung are two different things. He managed to use a genjutsu on the tailed beasts with a GLANCE, so it's safe to assume he can use his S/T on objects he viewed momentarily.

Saying he can swap with a lung is straight up inaccurate.
and that's what I meant when I said "as long he know the target is right there" he was facing another direction when he teleported madara and kaguya so it should be easy to teleport somthing insdie something as long he know's it right there right?
 

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And Sasuke's S/T jutsu is bound by the same mechanics,ergo he can't teleport anything that his eye is incapable of seeing.How f*cking hard is that to understand?:|
for the last time:

he does not need to see it to teleport to it as long he know's it right there kamui have it's cons and pros and the same goes to sasuke's tech and one of it's pros is it does not need eye contact as long he know it's right there.
 

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OP=/=wrong just look at kamui.

he wasn't looking at kaguya and he didn't when he teleported madara too the requirements are:

1-the target is in the radius.

2-he knows where the target is and where it should be moved no eye contact needed.

when sasuke used katon on naruto and teleported behind him I'm sure he couldn't see him from the flames but he knew naruto was there so he teleported.
So like a FTG that can only teleport people around them if they're in his radius? Like FTG users do when they mark someone. I can see that but i'm a little skeptical about it.
 

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And Sasuke's S/T jutsu is bound by the same mechanics,ergo he can't teleport anything that his eye is incapable of seeing.How f*cking hard is that to understand?:|
for the last time:

he does not need to see it to teleport to it as long he know's it right there kamui have it's cons and pros and the same goes to sasuke's tech and one of it's pros is it does not need eye contact as long he know it's right there.
 

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for the last time:

he does not need to see it to teleport to it as long he know's it right there kamui have it's cons and pros and the same goes to sasuke's tech and one of it's pros is it does not need eye contact as long he know it's right there.
I'm not even going to bother anymore.Believe what you want.
 

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I said that. You're missing the key point of my explaination.

Naruto will always overpower Sasuke in strength, but Sasuke's rinnegan absorbs Naruto's attacks.

We all know from VOTE 2 That Naruto's Ashura avatar + Sage Mode overpowers a Regular Rinne-Sharingan PS by A LOT. However Sasuke's powers of S/T allow him a greater range of flexability and other uses for him to counter's Naruto's brute strength.

Naruto - Yang - Brute power
Sasuke - Yin - Tactics and precise power



I guess we'll see it more clearly during the anime.
Thank you!
Agree with this, however Base Sasuke > base Naruto in like everything lol
 
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