[VS] Rinnegan Obito vs Hashirama

[OnPoint]

I understand that portrayal puts Hashirama above this version of Obito, but I just can't see how the former is going to get past Kamui. Moku Bunshin feints will of course prove useful, but i'm not buying them being the game changer considering Obito is the one who benefits from intel here. For me, Obito warps him.

 

[VongolaX]

I understand that portrayal puts Hashirama above this version of Obito, but I just can't see how the former is going to get past Kamui. Moku Bunshin feints will of course prove useful, but i'm not buying them being the game changer considering Obito is the one who benefits from intel here. For me, Obito warps him.

Obito's bijuu paths ttb was said in the DB to blow up a whole village with one blast.

It's called a "massive tailed beat bomb."

Hashirama's Buddah can't even compete at that level, Madara didn't even used massive ttb on Hashirama.

On top of that, Obito can absorb ninjustus:

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So he can absorb his mokuton

There's no way Hashirama is stronger, this is his a biased spite thread.

 

[Obito Loves Rin]

Hashirama wins, only jubi-jin obito can beat hashirama

 

[Pragmatic]

"God of Shinobi" is just a title. Should Minato lose the title of "Yellow Flash" because he gets surpassed in speed? Keep your dumbass off-topic opinions out of a vs thread.

No because hes still an extremely fast yellow haired shinobi. Hashirama on the other hand gets stomped hes no god

 

[Demonic.]

No because hes still an extremely fast yellow haired shinobi. Hashirama on the other hand gets stomped hes no god

You do realize "God" is just a nickname, right? People don't actually think he's a literal "God." You can't strip someone of a nickname they earned in their lifetime just because someone stronger comes along in the future. So again, keep your dumbass off topic opinions off the vs threads.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Hashirama wins, only jubi-jin obito can beat hashirama

DMS Obito.

 

[OnPoint]

Obito's bijuu paths ttb was said in the DB to blow up a whole village with one blast.

It's called a "massive tailed beat bomb."

Hashirama's Buddah can't even compete at that level, Madara didn't even used massive ttb on Hashirama.

On top of that, Obito can absorb ninjustus:

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So he can absorb his mokuton

There's no way Hashirama is stronger, this is his a biased spite thread.

Nah. The 9 tails took willy from Hashirama, so the other Bijuu won't be a problem. Kamui will be, though.

 

[ARGUS]

Nah. The 9 tails took willy from Hashirama, so the other Bijuu won't be a problem. Kamui will be, though.

Not really,
Mokuton clones and Flower Tree World Counter kamui hard,

seeing how obitos entire kamui based moveset is disrupted by the clones, and the Flower Tree World can easily bypasss his 5min kamui limit and put him to sleep

 

[synkross]

Hashi has no knowledge of kamui, This is how its gonna end.

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Hashirama has nothing to avoid this,any one who thinks otherwise is just fooling himself.

 

[Demonic.]

Hashi has no knowledge of kamui, This is how its gonna end.

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Hashirama has nothing to avoid this,any one who thinks otherwise is just fooling himself.

He warps a wood clone and gets gang banged from both dimensions. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling himself.

 

[Conspirator.]

Hashirama spanks Obito with intel on Kamui.

 

[Draphsin]

Stfu Obitard
God of Shinobi>>>Madara wanabe

Lel not even worth my time.

Not really,
Mokuton clones and Flower Tree World Counter kamui hard,

seeing how obitos entire kamui based moveset is disrupted by the clones, and the Flower Tree World can easily bypasss his 5min kamui limit and put him to sleep

Smh... So, how may times am I going to have to tell you how useless FTW is before you finally realize it for yourself? U_U

He warps a wood clone and gets gang banged from both dimensions. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling himself.

We both know that isn't happening without info.

 

[VongolaX]

Nah. The 9 tails took willy from Hashirama, so the other Bijuu won't be a problem. Kamui will be, though.

Well the nine tails doesn't equal all six bijuus put together.

Hashirama's SS is said to fight on par with a bijuu, two or more will be too much for under the perfect control of Obito.

When Madara used the kyuubi, it only destroyed one mountain (even with that Susanoo sword).

All six together could reck six mountains or one village in one shot, that's way beyond his league of power.

SS can't destroy a whole village in one go.

Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Chazzi]

Hashirama rips this fodder to pieces.

 

[OnPoint]

Not really,
Mokuton clones and Flower Tree World Counter kamui hard,

seeing how obitos entire kamui based moveset is disrupted by the clones, and the Flower Tree World can easily bypasss his 5min kamui limit and put him to sleep

They hardly 'counter Kamui hard' considering Hashirama knows fck all about the technique. Knowledge means so much here; he has no reason to assume Moku Bunshins are the key. I'm not buying Flower Tree World either as Obito could quite easily warp within sight of the battlefield and catch his breath in any five-minute interval.

Well the nine tails doesn't equal all six bijuus put together.

Hashirama's SS is said to fight on par with a bijuu, two or more will be too much for under the perfect control of Obito.

When Madara used the kyuubi, it only destroyed one mountain (even with that Susanoo sword).

All six together could reck six mountains or one village in one shot, that's way beyond his league of power.

SS can't destroy a whole village in one go.

Wouldn't you agree?

No, I just don't think it'd be too difficult to bind/immobilize them with his Mokuton. Rather than reverting to their full forms and making themselves into several large targets, it'd probably be better for them to remain in their Jinchuuriki forms and rely on their shared vision (Rinnegan).

 

[Strict]

Hashirama can't get past Kamui, but what are Obito's options in an environment which is changed and controlled by Hashirama and using Mokuton bunshin, which are using the original's abilities and are more durable than usual Kagebunshin? It's a stalemating; Hashirama can't get past Kamui but Obito can't stick to fighting multiple clones and try to absorb them, while Hashirama is perfectly hid in his tree-world. Obito has no firepower, and the Bijuu as the Mazou are a non-factor before Mokuton and the gates, which restrained even the Juubi. In the long run, Hashirama will prevail for his versatility.

 

[OnPoint]

Why would Hashirama rely so heavily on clones against what he sees as only one opponent? I reckon he'd match Obito and his paths on a numerical level and leave it at that. What if Obito decides to absorb chakra from the doppelgangers? Can't Obito decide where in Kamuiland the foe is warped, rendering a bi-dimensional 2 piece useless? Fuu and Torune didn't take advantage of one being warped before the other, and I can only recall slight careless from Obito being the reason a seemingly passed out Kakashi was able to land a few blows (since he was unaware that the Kyuubi had recharged him). I don't think he'll take Hashirama lightly at any stage.

Obito is more than versatile to remain competitive against a guy heavily reliant on Ninjutsu with a touch of Senjutsu thrown in, so that won't be where this fight is won or lost.

 

[Strict]

Though the usage of clone feints is a common way to grope one's way towards the opponent's unknown abilities. Gakido is mainly designed for absorbing Ninjutsu; absorbing Chakra from an individual would be rather ineffective, as it would assume not only the opponent's immobility but altogether inability to perform any Jutsu, to ensure an unmolested performance. Hence it is even said you need to fight Gaikido physically. In addition, if the clone uses Senchakra, he may turns to stone as well.

But I also think that Obito decides where to warp the opponent in Kamuiland. But against multiple Mokuton-Bunshin which are optionally enhanced with Senjutsu, Obito might be outmatched. As I said, the Bijuu should not be a problem with Mokuton and the gates. Once they are restrained, their Chakra is drained.

 

[VongolaX]

They hardly 'counter Kamui hard' considering Hashirama knows fck all about the technique. Knowledge means so much here; he has no reason to assume Moku Bunshins are the key. I'm not buying Flower Tree World either as Obito could quite easily warp within sight of the battlefield and catch his breath in any five-minute interval.


No, I just don't think it'd be too difficult to bind/immobilize them with his Mokuton. Rather than reverting to their full forms and making themselves into several large targets, it'd probably be better for them to remain in their Jinchuuriki forms and rely on their shared vision (Rinnegan).

The bijuus are under the contract of the Gedo mazou, once sealed inside the mazou there is no other binding that can do harm/restrain to the bijuus.

When Hashirama fought Madara, he released the kyuubi from its genjustu.

Outerpath is a different bondage enterly, only through extracting the bijuus from the Gedo can the beast be free again.
Hashirama can't do that...

Even the wood dragon couldn't bind the kyuubi under Madara's basic sharingan genjustu.

Six bijuus and a Gedo mazou is way out of Hashirama's league.

You either get blown to bits by a village destroying ttb or your soul gets consumed by Gedo.

Whe are talking about a guy who took on a taijustu master, a technician that had excess to his weakness, and two perfect jinchuuriki's Hachibi/kyuubi.

If EMS Madara with the kyuubi were to fight these four, he would be utterly destroyed.

The fact that after EMS Madara lost the kyuubi, he still had to fight off the wood dragon and wood golem off panel before reaching the stalemate.

 

[Demonic.]

Lel not even worth my time.



Smh... So, how may times am I going to have to tell you how useless FTW is before you finally realize it for yourself? U_U



We both know that isn't happening without info.

You never countered KidGamer's response to you Lol

Info isn't needed, Hashirama will need SM to deal with the Bijuu, Sage Mode increases sensing, reflexes, and reaction time (so much so that it shat on FTG, which shat on Kamui) and considering Base Gai managed to overwhelm Obito, Obito isn't warping a SM user so easily. Once Hashirama sees Obito is a S/T user, the clones will come out

Hashirama can't get past Kamui, but what are Obito's options in an environment which is changed and controlled by Hashirama and using Mokuton bunshin, which are using the original's abilities and are more durable than usual Kagebunshin? It's a stalemating; Hashirama can't get past Kamui but Obito can't stick to fighting multiple clones and try to absorb them, while Hashirama is perfectly hid in his tree-world. Obito has no firepower, and the Bijuu as the Mazou are a non-factor before Mokuton and the gates, which restrained even the Juubi. In the long run, Hashirama will prevail for his versatility.

Excellent post.