[the last the movie proof] Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo, JJ Madara are casual moon busters

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys , I just watched New short clip/footage where Toneri well, just watch it yourself to see what did happened. The sole point of this thread is that Kaguya, Ten tails host Hagoromo and Ten tails host Madara are casual moon busters. Please bare with me as Here I go:



^^ as you can see Toneri just split the moon in last second of the video.

Keep in mind that Toneri was just dilluted version of Hamura, so he was most likely weaker then Hamura/Pre jin Hagoromo. Of course it was before Toneri got tenseigan chakra mode, so later on he could be on par with Hamura or a bit stronger, but still much weaker then JJ Hagoromo and Kaguya.

Ten tails Hagoromo was stated to be able to reshape whole world, and we know creation requires more energy then destruction.

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and Kaguya was even stated to able to destroy whole dimenssion, aka Whole World aka whole planet, but it was never stated if it was casual or would it take close to full power of her

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^^ It is not to farfetched to claim Kaguya could be close to planet buster...

In short: Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo, JJ Madara are casual moon busters, where these first two were could be easily more moon busters, Kaguya being planet buster

Thanks for reading !

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[Gagster]

And why not Obito?

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Brace yourselves
DBZ fans are coming

 

[KCMNaruto]

And why not Obito?

because it was Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri who did it, and he was compared to JJ Madara.

but well, JJ Obito with full power would also split the moon, as far as we know, but no casually.

 

[-immortal-]

Untill madara shows feats that can destroy warth i agrre. But he did not

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Untill madara shows feats that can destroy warth i agrre. But he did not

That's like saying, let Kaguya show feats of killing gaara, but since she never done so, therefore it means she can't ...

 

[Limbo]

i thought that everybody knew this

 

[-immortal-]

That's like saying, let Kaguya show feats of killing gaara, but since she never done so, therefore it means she can't ...

That doesn't make anysense. Just butthurt illogical post of yours
You guys are fukin dumb. Believe th OP who said toneri chakra mode is compares to JJ madara Lol read better next time because he was compared to RINNeGan madara lol!! These people man ohh my damn fukin god.

Anyways of naruto defeated toneri kcm mode that means

Dms kakashi
Sasuke
Jubito
8gates gai
All are planet busters. Since they're all stronger then toneri . Dont get salty now.. Im just using Op logic

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

because it was Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri who did it, and he was compared to JJ Madara.

but well, JJ Obito with full power would also split the moon, as far as we know, but no casually.

Um you sure you don't mean just REGULAR rinnegan madara. It seems like a stretch to compare him to jj madara, that would be saying that toneri had power that rivaled the juubi which in itself is laughable. JJ madara had the raw power (double rinnegan) to be able to man handle all of team seven and their coolest guy obito neg diff. How can you rank him to be just a little bit or equal to hamura then state that he's comparable to JUUBI JIN Madara????? If anything maybe in terms of raw power since the tenseigan is equivalent to the rinnegan due to it being the culmination of countless byakugan. But in the end it's still just a byakugan. So I would understand comparing him to regular rinnegan madara but juubi Jin is a stretch, in terms of abilities though rinnegan outmatches temseigan neg diff. Plus juubi Jin madara had rinne sharnningan you must be doing acid if you think that toneri is going to compare after that. Toneri only compares to regular double rinnegan madara and maybe just MAYBE can even APPROACH single rinnegan madara but double rinnegan madara just isn't phased. Replace toneri with double rinnegan madara and naruxhina get solo'd laughable diff, they'd have to bring sasuke back in. And even then, limbo though.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Um you sure you don't mean just REGULAR rinnegan madara. It seems like a stretch to compare him to jj madara, that would be saying that toneri had power that rivaled the juubi which in itself is laughable. JJ madara had the raw power (double rinnegan) to be able to man handle all of team seven and their coolest guy obito neg diff. How can you rank him to be just a little bit or equal to hamura then state that he's comparable to JUUBI JIN Madara????? If anything maybe in terms of raw power since the tenseigan is equivalent to the rinnegan due to it being the culmination of countless byakugan. But in the end it's still just a byakugan. So I would understand comparing him to regular rinnegan madara but juubi Jin is a stretch, in terms of abilities though rinnegan outmatches temseigan neg diff. Plus juubi Jin madara had rinne sharnningan you must be doing acid if you think that toneri is going to compare after that. Toneri only compares to regular double rinnegan madara and maybe just MAYBE can even APPROACH single rinnegan madara but double rinnegan madara just isn't phased. Replace toneri with double rinnegan madara and naruxhina get solo'd laughable diff, they'd have to bring sasuke back in. And even then, limbo though.

hmm... I am not sure but Pre Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to Rinnegan Madara from the manga aka SM one-RG Rinne tensei Madara.

While Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to JJ Madara, but be specific I found some rumor(unconfirmed) it was to one- RG Shinjuu absorbed JJ Madara (before getting other Rinnegan or Third eye), but it was never confirmed as far as my memory goes.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

That doesn't make anysense. Just butthurt illogical post of yours
You guys are fukin dumb. Believe th OP who said toneri chakra mode is compares to JJ madara Lol read better next time because he was compared to RINNeGan madara lol!! These people man ohh my damn fukin god.

Anyways of naruto defeated toneri kcm mode that means

Dms kakashi
Sasuke
Jubito
8gates gai
All are planet busters. Since they're all stronger then toneri . Dont get salty now.. Im just using Op logic

Um...no one even assumed that what TC said was even real. Legitimately I never assumed it and the obito guy was probably being sarcastic. So this entire post of yours doesn't even apply to anyone.

2nd: you're logic is that just because it hasn't been seen means they can't do it. Apply both logics, unless you can't grasp simple context, you're looking at this in CONCEPT when you SHOULD be looking at it in CONTEXT. You're words just say that if it hasn't been done it doesn't exist so I put another scenario like that. How can you not grasp the meaning of your own words? It'd be like saying since itachi never placed Sakura under genjutsu then I guess that means he can't. Same logic as saying since madara never blew up the moon or showed moon busting capabilities then I guess he can't. Freaking dude in Edo tensei madara's perfect susano annihilated an entire mountain and leveled the entire area. And Edo madara isn't even equivalent to reborn/alive madara. If Edo madara can level an area of that diameter then you're MASSIVELY underestimating JUUBI JIN madara. I guess juubi Jin madara can't destroy mountain ranges either since he hadn't done so right? You're logic is both amusing and laughable XD

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Um you sure you don't mean just REGULAR rinnegan madara. It seems like a stretch to compare him to jj madara, that would be saying that toneri had power that rivaled the juubi which in itself is laughable. JJ madara had the raw power (double rinnegan) to be able to man handle all of team seven and their coolest guy obito neg diff. How can you rank him to be just a little bit or equal to hamura then state that he's comparable to JUUBI JIN Madara????? If anything maybe in terms of raw power since the tenseigan is equivalent to the rinnegan due to it being the culmination of countless byakugan. But in the end it's still just a byakugan. So I would understand comparing him to regular rinnegan madara but juubi Jin is a stretch, in terms of abilities though rinnegan outmatches temseigan neg diff. Plus juubi Jin madara had rinne sharnningan you must be doing acid if you think that toneri is going to compare after that. Toneri only compares to regular double rinnegan madara and maybe just MAYBE can even APPROACH single rinnegan madara but double rinnegan madara just isn't phased. Replace toneri with double rinnegan madara and naruxhina get solo'd laughable diff, they'd have to bring sasuke back in. And even then, limbo though.

You seriously believe double rinnegan can split the moon in half?

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

hmm... I am not sure but Pre Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to Rinnegan Madara from the manga aka SM one-RG Rinne tensei Madara.

While Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to JJ Madara, but be specific I found some rumor(unconfirmed) it was to one- RG Shinjuu absorbed JJ Madara (before getting other Rinnegan or Third eye), but it was never confirmed as far as my memory goes.

Oh in that case that makes more logic sense than before. I thought you meant double rinnegan juubi Jin madara or rinne sharnningan madara. But if it's only pre juubi tree andone eyed sage mode madara than that is roughly accurate then. Which this in fact does make more sense, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Oh in that case that makes more logic sense than before. I thought you meant double rinnegan juubi Jin madara or rinne sharnningan madara. But if it's only pre juubi tree andone eyed sage mode madara than that is roughly accurate then. Which this in fact does make more sense, thanks for clearing it up.

no problem but I am not sure if you understood me correctly.

I mean:

Pre Tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to Rinnegan Madara from the manga aka SM one-RG Rinne tensei Madara.

and

tenseigan chakra mode Toneri was compared to one- RG Shinjuu absorbed JJ Madara.

and IT was tenseigan chakra mode Toneri who did it.

so it require Madara to be at least ONE-RG SHINJUU ABSORBED Juubi Jinchurki Madara to be casual moon buster.

Check if you understood me properly, anyway no problem and I am glad I would help

 

[-immortal-]

Um...no one even assumed that what TC said was even real. Legitimately I never assumed it and the obito guy was probably being sarcastic. So this entire post of yours doesn't even apply to anyone.

2nd: you're logic is that just because it hasn't been seen means they can't do it. Apply both logics, unless you can't grasp simple context, you're looking at this in CONCEPT when you SHOULD be looking at it in CONTEXT. You're words just say that if it hasn't been done it doesn't exist so I put another scenario like that. How can you not grasp the meaning of your own words? It'd be like saying since itachi never placed Sakura under genjutsu then I guess that means he can't. Same logic as saying since madara never blew up the moon or showed moon busting capabilities then I guess he can't. Freaking dude in Edo tensei madara's perfect susano annihilated an entire mountain and leveled the entire area. And Edo madara isn't even equivalent to reborn/alive madara. If Edo madara can level an area of that diameter then you're MASSIVELY underestimating JUUBI JIN madara. I guess juubi Jin madara can't destroy mountain ranges either since he hadn't done so right? You're logic is both amusing and laughable XD

You totally misunderstood my post. I've never said what isn't showed can't been done.

But f we asume jj madara can who is stronger the toneri. I have all reasons to think naruto and sasuke can
Edit: to correct the Op. Tenseigan was compared to rinnegan
Trnseigan chakra mode was compared to rinne maddy. Nowhere from all sources i've seen its said jj madara

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

You seriously believe double rinnegan can split the moon in half?

Depending on which double rinnegan you're referring too. If you mean juubidara then yes. How in the heck can it say that tenseigan is comparable to the rinnegan in terms of RAW power. So if the temseigan's capabilities can, then why can't the rinnegan. If you know the size/diameter of the moon it's not to far fetched to believe that the rinnegan can perform such a feat. It would however depend on the chairs of the user, negato can't for sure but sasuke can as with perfect susano he could cut through many satellites with ease and that was before he got used to the eye. Afterwards most likely even sasuke can. But if that's not satisfying, take shines tensei for example, negato who was only using a six path (yahiko) devastated Konoha and flattened it. The path of pain is nowhere near as strong as if it was the original pain meaning nagato could perform such a feat on a much bigger radius, then you have mountain busters like Madara who is far above nagato, see where I'm going with this? It depends on the chakra of the individual but shines tensei madara would do the job. I don't see why people can't believe this, it's not like madara was going to up and blow up the moon, he needed that thing.

 

[KCMNaruto]

You totally misunderstood my post. I've never said what isn't showed can't been done.

But f we asume jj madara can who is stronger the toneri. I have all reasons to think naruto and sasuke can

of course because each of them were roughly on par with JJ Shinjuu absorbed one -RG Madara back then.

Now considering they just become stronger, they would slightly below DRG JJ Madara on their own

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

You totally misunderstood my post. I've never said what isn't showed can't been done.

But f we asume jj madara can who is stronger the toneri. I have all reasons to think naruto and sasuke can
Edit: to correct the Op. Tenseigan was compared to rinnegan
Trnseigan chakra mode was compared to rinne maddy. Nowhere from all sources i've seen its said jj madara

Well I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but that is what I got from you stating "until madara shows feats of destroying warth (moon? Earth?) then I agree" if it's moon then it isn't that far fetched. But to have casual planet busting abilities seems a bit overdoing it, we can't however just assume that he can't, he wouldn't display that because well...he kind of needs the planet. The context of your words made it sound as if, until you see it "until madara displays feats" then you'll believe it "I'll agree". It is a fair point to not just ASSUME that one can do something but you'd have to remember the power madara had while having double rinnegan.

Naruto busting the moon isn't all that far fetched since he did if I remember correctly in the manga casually make six bijuu damas that busted several chibaku tensei's that were bigger than nagato's one. The potency of the bijuudamas if Naruto put enough chakra would be moon busting but nowhere near planet busting. And sasuke...with PS slash, I'm pretty sure the same goes for him as well, I can see sasuke slashing the moon in half but busting it?...hmm..well maybe shines tensei, depending on how much chakra he's willing to put.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Are you going by what the 5th databook says? Because the 4th one also said that Sakura caught up with Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Are you going by what the 5th databook says? Because the 4th one also said that Sakura caught up with Naruto and Sasuke.

only restricted EMS to v3 Susanoo and Enton and KCM Naruto, so it is not so farfetched