Sakura is only book-mart with no strategy at all (?)

[RedRobin]

Where does it state that I said Hinata is better than Sakura?
It's obvious Sakura > Hinata
I'm merely showing you why that is ~
Please learn how to read.

Still a terrible point. ****ing Mizuki could have been stronger than Sasuke if he was a main character.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

In part 1 Sakura:
-was useless
-barely could defend herself
-mocked Naruto for being alone and treated him badly
-fangirled over Sasuke

Part 2 Sakura:
-became Tsunade's disciple
-one of the best medical ninjas
-defeated an Akatsuki member with 15 years old
-saved countless lives with her skills
-started to care for Naruto and to support his dream, not to mention that she saved his life and even defended him during the Kage Summit, when Sasuke tried to kill all the Team 7 members
-her fangirlism became a selfless love for Sasuke, even Kakashi stated that her goal was to save him from darkness

If this isn't some development, I really don't know what it is. I fail to see how "terrible" she is.

And why should part 1 be ignored? Lol

Thats like saying ignore any development SS had in part 1. Just worship SK because it happen in part 2.

 

[lndra]

Please say something to everything I said in this post instead of acting condescending.

"-I'm only talking about provided battle smarts, you are the one talking about who is "better".
-I did not call her "fodder trash" show me where I said that. I bet you can't because you made that up in order to react butthurt to my comment.
-Yes you are, remember the Lee thread? It was just like in this thread. You came along with filler stuff and assumptions while I used the provided feats.
-Why do you use what if scenarios in a thread about established feats and facts? This is called faulty logic."

I was the one bringing up facts. You only what if scenarios, your opinion, your twisting of my words and insults.

Are you always bringing this meme up when you lose a debate?

Your bringing up manga facts on Sakura who has way more features than Hinata, I'm bringing up a discussion on why Sakura is better than Hinata.

My parallel in the post is why Sakura IS better than HINATA, but you couldn't understand that yourself could you? Please man ... can you learn how to read? I don't even understand why you log on into this site if you can't even read..

 

[jimbobbity]

So can anyone debunk this or nah?

One word debunks this all. Feats. You have little to no proof to support your claims and neither do the other party. Basically its just two sides blindly saying "Sakura-San rocks" and "Suckura sucks".

 

[Brünhild]

Only in her abilities.

In personality too. She treated Naruto badly and used to fangirl over Sasuke. Now she truly cares for Naruto and supports him and her fangirlism became a selfless love. This is a personality development.

 

[lndra]

Still a terrible point. ****ing Mizuki could have been stronger than Sasuke if he was a main character.

Thank's for understanding I was never wrong in the first place.
Also thanks for contributing to my original thought on how you wank Sakura. Your wank for the character surpassed your vision for my post entirely, meaning you skipped everything I wrote and took it as character bashing immediately. When I write something logical, people get mad like SSSA and try to flame me. I have said not one thing that regards to Sakura being better than Hinata, what I'm trying to explain is the differences in the characters and what could have been. Is that wrong?

 

[lndra]

Yeah because side characters like Hinata who weren't born geniuses like Neji, Itachi, and so forth get real development in a way they branch out from moderate standards.

She fought Neji who inherited the strongest blood to the KKG as words from Hiashi, meaning Neji could solo that negg deff father in a second, probably.

Fighting Pain is a feat of it's own. I mean logically Sakura has feats because she is the third character in the series besides Naruto and Sasuke, that alone is what saves her from being complete fodder.

Put Sakura again'st Pain, hell even Neji, and tell me she would survive Lol

Part 1 Sakura vs Part 1 Neji = Neji Neg deffs easy

Part 2 Sakura vs Pain = Same boat as Hinata, gets neg deffed in seconds

So why is Sakura better than Hinata? (Note im not saying Hinata is better than Sakura)

My discussion still stands SSSA. Are you ready to have a conversation about this without wanking Lol?

 

[Brünhild]

And why should part 1 be ignored? Lol

Thats like saying ignore any development SS had. Just worship SK because it happen in part 2.

That's exactly what I am trying to say. I'm not asking for anyone to ignore part 1, but to look how she was back then and how she is now and realize the change in her ^^

 

[lndra]

One word debunks this all. Feats. You have little to no proof to support your claims and neither do the other party. Basically its just two sides blindly saying "Sakura-San rocks" and "Suckura sucks".

No you are correct and incorrect.
I never stated anything about the characters, I'm bringing up points as listed.
I never said sakura sucks, I'm pulling comparisons in the characters. Re-read please.

 

[SSStylish]

Your bringing up manga facts on Sakura who has way more features than Hinata, I'm bringing up a discussion on why Sakura is better than Hinata.

My parallel in the post is why Sakura IS better than HINATA, but you couldn't understand that yourself could you? Please man ... can you learn how to read? I don't even understand why you log on into this site if you can't even read..

So you're admitting getting completely off topic and stating unnecessary things and making assumptions. And you still haven't said a thing to the points I made. Good to know.

 

[RedRobin]

Thank's for understanding I was never wrong in the first place.
Also thanks for contributing to my original thought on how you wank Sakura. Your wank for the character surpassed your vision for my post entirely, meaning you skipped everything I wrote and took it as character bashing immediately. When I write something logical, people get mad like SSSA and try to flame me. I have said not one thing that regards to Sakura being better than Hinata, what I'm trying to explain is the differences in the characters and what could have been. Is that wrong?

As long as you understand Sakura > Hinata then ok. I dont understand why you are talking hypotheticals but ok.

 

[jimbobbity]

No you are correct and incorrect.
I never stated anything about the characters, I'm bringing up points as listed.
I never said sakura sucks, I'm pulling comparisons in the characters. Re-read please.

I said that you was the one character bashing, im talking about the majority involved.

 

[SSStylish]

Thank's for understanding I was never wrong in the first place.
Also thanks for contributing to my original thought on how you wank Sakura. Your wank for the character surpassed your vision for my post entirely, meaning you skipped everything I wrote and took it as character bashing immediately. When I write something logical, people get mad like SSSA and try to flame me. I have said not one thing that regards to Sakura being better than Hinata, what I'm trying to explain is the differences in the characters and what could have been. Is that wrong?

Yes it is because this is called going of topic.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

That's exactly what I am trying to say. I'm not asking for anyone to ignore part 1, but to look how she was back then and how she is now and realize the change in her ^^

No, look I admire that. But even in part 2 I was disappointed how she was treated when she got that change. I am looking at her overall character here, not just part 2.

Also I will admit I really enjoyed her fight against Sasori, I feel she could have had more. But she didn't, this is why I don't see her as a better character. She had potential, just never the right attention.

 

[RedRobin]

In personality too. She treated Naruto badly and used to fangirl over Sasuke. Now she truly cares for Naruto and supports him and her fangirlism became a selfless love. This is a personality development.

She supported Naruto from part 1. 699 showed she truly had no development in part 2.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Sakura biggest strength when it comes to being smart in combat is her healing field. Sakura is only known to being smart when it comes to her studies mainly on Human Anatomy which healing is her prodigy.

Sakura isn't efficient in combat, she mostly had to deal with a way to defend herself but she also need to be in tactician and battle strategy wise which she's does not utilized in . Only those who unlock the Hyakugou Seal can go in battle front line, and when she does, Sakura usually straight up being reckless, as such this really holds Naruto & Sasuke down when she try to act as a decoy yet she had no idea and got completely annihilated by Madara.

In almost every situation, Sakura always think herself trying to be useful by acting like she knows what she's doing but in the end she always cause herself in trouble.

Sakura is pale in comparison compare to Neji, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Sasuke, Kabuto and or Itachi.


Even Naruto who was considered to be the number #1 knucklehead is alot smarter than Sakura. Naruto always have tricks behind his sleeve and was able to overcome almost every opponents by being the most unpredictable ninja.

 

[lndra]

So you're admitting getting completely off topic and stating unnecessary things and making assumptions. And you still haven't said a thing to the points I made. Good to know.

You have wrote 4 pages worth of replies yet you couldn't answer one post properly. Here you are, still talking nonsense as if it meant something.

I made a post, a discussion, and you posted facts that did not contribute to the discussion. Is English your first language or what mate? Cause it seems you are having trouble understanding the words.

 

[salsalover64]

Look. I'm aware you're not too fond of what zeref is saying here. But all in all he's right. People will place a heavier emphasis on the feats of characters they find more favorable. Does she have battle smart feats??? Sure...but..the thing is the entire premise behind the "feat system" is the it's meant to draw attention to accomplishments that characters had in comparison to their peers and whether or not they were able to exceed their peers. Sakura has accomplishments the problem is her accomplishments don't out number naruto's sasuke's kakashi's, itachi's madara's...the list goes on. Based on the fact that the feat system is utilized to determine a characters capacity to "neg diff" on the battlefield compared to their peers then yeah...sakura ranks pretty low on the list. And really her "battle smart feats" are not all that impressive because it was explicitly stated in the series she has smarts. That's what those battle feats are...battle smarts. But the problem is that her battle smarts didn't really a huge role compared to naruto's like in the ninja war. She healed people and that's nice..but the truth is naruto could heal people too after his power up so and again one of the purposes behind calling a "feat" a "feat" is that there's differentiation between the person and their peers.

 

[Brünhild]

I don't know why people are bringing Hinata to this thread. This is a thread about Sakura's feats, not another thread Sakura vs Hinata.

 

[lndra]

I don't know why people are bringing Hinata to this thread. This is a thread about Sakura's feats, not another thread Sakura vs Hinata.

Cause some guys around page 2 started some ish. They couldn't even finish it. :l

I agree Sakura has good feats and I never call her abilities fodder, but the character itself does not make sense to me. Yet when I try to compare situations in which two characters could of played out differently, they respond to my post as fan-fic. Like come on? Can we have a discussion without someone getting mad over nothing? Words, man they are just words. I'm glad there are some Sakura fans who don't get butthurt.