6 Huge examples of Kishi nerfing JJ Madara

[Han 5 tails]

1. He didnt allow Madara to use Wood clones. JJ wood clones are too powerfull so Kishi restricted them.

2. Bijuu PS. Madara have chakra of all bijuus so his PS would be too OP so Kishi nerfed Madara there.

3. TBB . Kishi didnt allow Madara as JJ to use TBB .

4. Mokuton. Madara stole senjutsu from Hashirama and became JJ his mokuton would be Too OP so Kishi nerfed Madara.

5. Limbo clones. Kishi nerfed Madara badly by not allowing limbo clones to use Jutsus.

6. Rinne sharingan. Kaguyas power of Rinne sharingan is dimensional shifting. Kishi didnt allow Madara to show us His Rinna sharingan power.

So in the end Kishi nerfed Madara badly.
His was too OP so kishi didnt have another way to beta him so he nerfed him.

That Maddy

Ty and Madara Rules

 

[Karna]

Madara is too op for nv, everyone already knows that.

 

[Zavage10]

Ikr I got the feeling that rinne sharingan madara was about to crush naruto and sasuke.

 

[Gerkak]

Indeed madara was nefred badly. Kaguya was nerfed even more though.

 

[Transcendence]

1. Fodder to God tiers like Naruto and Sasuke.
2. Nothing says he could have used it, as he didn't have the separate Bijuu's chakra. It wouldn't have amplified his Susano'o in the same way Sasuke's was.
3. Sasuke could just redirect it back at Madara with Amenotejikara.
4. Again, fodder to Naruto and Sasuke. BM Naruto was making easy work of Edo Madara's Mokuton. Rikudou Mode Naruto would annihilate whatever Mokuton he uses.
5. We already know they can only use Taijutsu, so this is a moot point. Them being invisible to only a select few people makes them OP enough.
6. Data book already proved that Madara's Rinne Sharingan was only for IT. He doesn't have enough chakra for Dimensional Shifting, so Kaguya is the only user of the technique.

 

[Kαmi]

Kishi always nerfs his characters to some extent when putting them up against the protagonist(s).

 

[AlphaScythian]

All main villains been nerfed, now what?

 

[SS100]

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[Han 5 tails]

1. Fodder to God tiers like Naruto and Sasuke.
2. Nothing says he could have used it, as he didn't have the separate Bijuu's chakra. It wouldn't have amplified his Susano'o in the same way Sasuke's was.
3. Sasuke could just redirect it back at Madara with Amenotejikara.
4. Again, fodder to Naruto and Sasuke. BM Naruto was making easy work of Edo Madara's Mokuton. Rikudou Mode Naruto would annihilate whatever Mokuton he uses.
5. We already know they can only use Taijutsu, so this is a moot point. Them being invisible to only a select few people makes them OP enough.
6. Data book already proved that Madara's Rinne Sharingan was only for IT. He doesn't have enough chakra for Dimensional Shifting, so Kaguya is the only user of the technique.

first wood golem is about same strenght as PS
second Naruto in BM couldnot beat Wood dragon
most important as Sasuke fan you are too mad to admit

 

[AlphaScythian]

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BZ knows thou

 

[XxTayxX]

1. Fodder to God tiers like Naruto and Sasuke.
2. Nothing says he could have used it, as he didn't have the separate Bijuu's chakra. It wouldn't have amplified his Susano'o in the same way Sasuke's was.
3. Sasuke could just redirect it back at Madara with Amenotejikara.
4. Again, fodder to Naruto and Sasuke. BM Naruto was making easy work of Edo Madara's Mokuton. Rikudou Mode Naruto would annihilate whatever Mokuton he uses.
5. We already know they can only use Taijutsu, so this is a moot point. Them being invisible to only a select few people makes them OP enough.
6. Data book already proved that Madara's Rinne Sharingan was only for IT. He doesn't have enough chakra for Dimensional Shifting, so Kaguya is the only user of the technique.

Shots fired to OP

 

[Han 5 tails]

Shots fired to OP

too bad that everything ha said is untrue

 

[SS100]

BZ knows thou

cause of PNJ, kishi didnt have another option

TY and GODARA>your fav

 

[New knight48]

Itachi totsuka blitz your fav

 

[AlphaScythian]

cause of PNJ, kishi didnt have another option

TY and GODARA>your fav

Keep telling yourself that

 

[Gerkak]

first wood golem is about same strenght as PS
second Naruto in BM couldnot beat Wood dragon
most important as Sasuke fan you are too mad to admit

Naruto defeated wood dragon

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The wood dragon was useless after that.

 

[Han 5 tails]

Shots fired to OP

1. Fodder to God tiers like Naruto and Sasuke.
2. Nothing says he could have used it, as he didn't have the separate Bijuu's chakra. It wouldn't have amplified his Susano'o in the same way Sasuke's was.
3. Sasuke could just redirect it back at Madara with Amenotejikara.
4. Again, fodder to Naruto and Sasuke. BM Naruto was making easy work of Edo Madara's Mokuton. Rikudou Mode Naruto would annihilate whatever Mokuton he uses.
5. We already know they can only use Taijutsu, so this is a moot point. Them being invisible to only a select few people makes them OP enough.
6. Data book already proved that Madara's Rinne Sharingan was only for IT. He doesn't have enough chakra for Dimensional Shifting, so Kaguya is the only user of the technique.

1. first sasuke and naruto could barely keep up with one Madara , Naruto is exaple how clones can be usefull
2. susanoo is manifestation of user chakra madara have bijuus so his susanoo would be stronger as sameway sasukes was after gaining hagoromo chakra.
3 yes sasuke can redirect 1 back then obito used 4 and cover himself with onmyoudon and sasukes teleportation has range
4. Bm naruto could not beat wood dragon without guy help he would be done back then.
5. databook says clones have same ability as original but kishi just nerfed him
6. Madara maybe have different jutsu just like limbo and just like sasuke have S/T

 

[Kenjamin Bing]

He was too powerful everyone. Hence why Masashi Kishimoto removed him.

With his Rinnegan's full power, he could create 5 Limbo that each cannot be seen or sensed by non-Rikudou Senjutsu or Rinnegan wielder. And they cannot be hurt without Rikudou's Chakra either. Each Limbo can act as defence and offence position, making sure Madara doesn't get harmed. And in case if he was, he would simply switches with the Limbo to save him the damage. And as shown, Limbo cannot be killed as they are in another dimensional plane; only way is to seal them off with powerful Fuin. Aside the fact Limbo is so OP, he has the 6 Paths abilities. Preta Path to render all Ninjutsu based-Chakra useless. Human Path to instantly kill off anyone in physical contact. Asura Path and its rockets at the hands of the original wielder, possessor of Rikudou's full amounts of Chakra, and Juubi's Chakra as well, would potentially destroy islands. Deva Path to manipulate the forces of gravity; simply levitate anyone he likes, or pushes away titanic proportion of earth, given he's Juubi's Jinchuuriki, the only one aside Hagoromo to use the full power of Rinnegan. An example was his Chibaku Tensei, which he refers as ''raindrop''. And if he needed to end the match quickly, he could activate his Rinne Sharingan and use Infinite Tsukuyomi, which only Rinnegan can counter.

His Six Paths Senjutsu is highly above Naruto's, since Madara's originates from stronger source of Rikudou Chakra and stronger Senjutsu (Hashirama's + Juubi's). Naruto alone could blitz the likes of Kaguya, so imagine Madara who is faster would do. His reflexes and reactions allowed him to keep up with 8th Gate Gai, who could literally distort space/time physically, which theoretically no one could reach to such speed. To put it all simple, Taijutsu and Ninjutsu is all useless to Madara.

Add the fact he could combine Juubi and Perfect Susanoo, very much like he did with Kurama, you have infinite destructible power. Sasuke's PS enhanced by the Yin Chakra of Rikudou's, could do

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. Madara possess both

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, as well as Juubi's Chakra on top of it. In other words, Juubi could do

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, Naruto's & Sasuke's combined power could do

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; multiple both AOE, and this is the power when Madara's Rikudou PS and Juubi's form fused together.

The only one I could see giving Madara a true fight, is Jinchuuriki Hagoromo.

 

[xcoyote]

Kishi is just a terrible fight choreographer.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto defeated wood dragon

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The wood dragon was useless after that.

Madara was hit by hirudora, looks like he lost control over mokujin after that.