Alive BM Minato vs EMS Madara ( NO Mokuton and Rinnegan ) Read.

[Thundergod123]

It looks like everyone has their own opinion.

 

[-immortal-]

PS is atleast 3 times bigger then minatos BM avatar.
Madara has more raw power and stamina then Minato.

Ems madara > BM minato, call it a day

 

[Izanamı.]

When exactly did some attacks ffrom Juubi weaken the Kyuubi?

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Obito smashed thema t the ground and the BSM Naruto cloak vanished, how exactly is something that weak going to tank this?

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Obito caught and smashed Kyuubi from the main body not from the tails LOL!
Kurama tails are the most durable part of the avatar.

Kyuubi tanked Juubi's laser with tails.

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Juubi laser evaporates several mountain ranges at once.

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How can Madara create Juubi level attacks again?​

 

[BlacLord™]

It's absolutely horrifying that people think Madara wins.

-Madara's PS tanked I bijuudama from a 100% Kurama. The issue is that perfect jinchurikis are FAR more powerful than the bijuus themselves, hence the reason why BM naruto has far better DC feats than Kurama. ONE bijuudama from BM naruto, countered 5 bijuudamas from the other bijuus with ease.
- Hashirmaa's Chojo Kebutsu took a dump on Madara's PS. That attack stalemated with roughly 12 bijuu damas with PS blades. These were all "standard" bijuudamas, not the ones Minatao or Naruto use in BM. A bijuudama barrage from BM minato(2 or 3) simply break open Madara's PS and kill him.
-I haven't even taken into account Minato's FTG, which is going to be enhanced in Bijuu mode, where he easily evades all of Madara's attacks.


BM minato wins easily. This is not a close match, but a rout. On second thoughts, Madara would probably lose high diff even with the Kyuubi.

No, they're not.

The Juubi's Jinchuuriki is a lot different.

Tired Kurama made a Bijuudama far bigger than anything Naruto displayed in BM:

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[BLAZE]

PS is atleast 3 times bigger then minatos BM avatar.

People r not taking this even in consideration and going by Databook hype it can fly
It will rape Yin Kurama ava in battle

 

[Shanks]

Such a shame this thread was made Edo Minato with Sage mode got lost to Madara . You are talking when he was alive . :leaf:.

Why are you embarrassing Minato brauh..

 

[Izanamı.]

Madara had SM then though, and Tobirama outmanoeuvred him until he used Limbo.



Madara's unstablized PS tanked a Bijuudama no-diff and Minato can't teleport PS willy-nilly. It's too big and would use too much chakra, not to mention it would be fruitless.

He tanked a standard biju dama. Can he tank everything? LOL! Perfect jin >> biju
Half of Kurama with a jin made a TBB bigger than 5 biju. Madara tanked a small one from a single biju.

Minato teleported in base Juubi's Dama that is much bigger than Hachibi.

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Him having Kyuubi's chakra and not enough chakra to teleport it is a bad joke.​

Exactly

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Minato is my 5th fav while Madara is 10th fav and i did not say who wins. smh

Okay but everyone says a character is one of my favourites and then bash him.

You said he can't defeat him because he has a PS LOL.​

 

[Gold Lightning]

Doesn't matter what the Viz said? Lmao, the viz said that the destructive power of PS can only be rivaled by the Bijuu's, that means that anything that Minato throws out, such as the Tbb, it will get countered by a PS slash, seeing as 1 regular tbb destroys 1 mountain, and Madara's PS negged 2 meteors and 2 mountains which means that a casual swipe of it's sword is as strong as a chakra pumped TBB.

Im not saying the viz doesn't matter, im saying that its wording doesn't support my argument any less. If it says only a tailed beast can rival the power of a ps then that's still supporting what i said. A perfect jinchuuriki is still far stronger than a regular tailed beast. So it's not the same power we are talking about, BM Minato surpasses that of a tailed beast on its own

Becuause some people on this thread were saying that Madara w Kyuubi<Minato, this was meant for them as well.
You realize Minato can remove the control of a summoning from an oppoenent and easily teleport the summoning away. Then it becomes minato vs madara again. So it makes no difference if madara has kurma



I don't see why not, BM cloak has not shown anything that is remotely close at tanking something that destroys 2 meteors and 2 mountains with no diff at all.

BM tanked the juubi laser. A technique more powerful than anything madara has.


We've not seen Naruto's tail destroy a mountain, it is all hype, no feats.
"One swing of its mighty tail could crumble mountains and cause tsunamis." Its only hype because you don't want to agree with it. You saw what the 8 tails did to the land scape just by spinning, he eradicated an entire forest. Kurmas roar sent 5 tailed beasts flying. Sorry but kishi's words in this case aren't just simple hype, this is the power of a bijuu. Naruto may not have destroyed a mountain, but it deflected 5 taibled beast bombs with just pure speed (and it wasn't even in its avatar state, this was just bm naruto in his human form), yet he redirected all those bombs to different locations and destroyed all the landscape in the distance. Yet you don't think a full powered bijuu naruto can crumble a mountain Lol. Don't make me laugh

Yeah, that was a Rikudo mode powered Bijuu mode, not the fodder bm minato has.
Doesn't matter if it was rikudo naruto. Sasuke also used a rikudo susanoo. Take away rikudo from both and the same thing wouldve happened.


Yeah, he did tank 100& kurama tbb point blank with no diff at all, and that was unstabilized, how many you ask? well here you go

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Are you joking. Those were aimed at hashirama, Madara didn't feel the full effect of those at all. What removed susanoo were the buddha hands alone. While the bombs destroyed several of the buddha hands. Madara even said it was the buddha that opened up the susanoo. the bombs didn't touch madara. He may have been caught in a bit of the explosion, but that's nothing compared to being hit by a bomb itself. Juubito was caught in tobiramas explosions, yet nothing happened. But a sage art rasengan ripped a hole in his back, because that actually connected.
He survived the explosion of 13 TBB made by 100% kurama with Ps swords in them along with 1000 hands attack, that was what it took to destroy his PS.



You mean the 10 second SM that minato has?
Ah, this baseless 10 second BS with no evidence to back it up. Pathetic. Sage mode users can deactivate their own sage mode if they want. Naruto has shown that pretty clear. Minato lost his other arm and the ability to weave signs. Did you actually see the panel of minatos sage mode fading? No, all you saw was him having it in one panel and then not having it in a later panel. So stop your baseless assumption. Naruto's intial limit was 5 mins after various training. After balancing the nature energy perfectly, he was at least able to maintain it for a minute. So I see no reason why Minato can't when he can balance the chakra perfectly as well. Funny how you didn't even have an argument here. The point was that it's just for minato to increase the power of his tailed beast bombs quickly, doesn't matter if he runs out after, he can just to it again due to the bm influence on senjutsu. Not to mention that it's confirmed that Kurama can gather nature energy as well.


So he teleports away? Oh well, Madara can slash all the time, it doesnät take much to wave ur arms, and eventually, Minato's chakra will run out and he will be doomed.

BM Minato will last way longer than EMS Madara, are you deluded. Kurama can supply an endless amount of chakra, madara doesn't have anything that is constantly kneading chakra inside him. Teleporting takes so little chakra from minato, especially now that he's in BM. He can teleport all day, only telporting large objects will drain him. And again, Kurama tail will counter any PS slash

I've already countered your TBB argument, those small tbbs aint gonna harm the PS.
Of course they will, Madara has never directly tanked a tbb. Hirudora alone removed his v3 suanoo. You think multiple tbb wont do damage, especially senjutsu enhanced, you're really something else.

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[-immortal-]

People r not taking this even in consideration and going by Databook hype it can fly
It will rape Yin Kurama ava in battle

It took a few hundreds of fists of Hashias shinjusenju to break PS half.
Lmao people think 2 bijuudamas out clash PS armor XD
Madara dwarfs with Ps and His slash can counter all Bijuudamas. He oblitirates minato.
He can hold on longer and has more chakra. How minato is gone win? Not

 

[Haizaki]

Minato wins without a doubt.

 

[BLAZE]

Okay but everyone says he is one of my favourites and then bash him saying he gets butslapped because he has a PS.​

Maddy's gigantic PS rapes Yin Kurama jinchuruki's M[if this lacks senjutsu]

You said he can't defeat him because he has a PS LOL.​

I just said this battle won't be easy and the above

 

[Minator93]

Go to the 'VS' section and you'll get 10 much more thoroughly debated threads on this exact topic.

OT: BM Minato wins.

 

[Gold Lightning]

For those who say a jinchuuriki isn't stronger than a tailed beast, or that it only applies to a juubi jin U_U. Im done here:

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[Izanamı.]

Maddy's gigantic PS rapes Yin Kurama jinchuruki's M[if this lacks senjutsu]

You said he can't defeat him because he has a PS LOL.​

I just said this battle won't be easy and the above[/QUOTE]

Why you said no reason. Just because you don't want to accept Minato wins.
Kyuubi's tails are more durable than every part of Susanoo. It tanked Juubi's laser without SM.

Can Madara create Juubi level attacks that can weaken Kurama? Obviously not.​

 

[Endles Waltz]

Minato wins without a doubt.

Sorry but when I see your avatar and sig (Obito) and read your comment I can't help but think you are just sore cause Madara played you like a puppet!

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Im joking by the way.

 

[BLAZE]

Why you said no reason. Just because you don't want to accept Minato wins.
Kyuubi's tails are more durable than every part of Susanoo. It tanked Juubi's laser without SM.

Can Madara create Juubi level attacks that can weaken Kurama? Obviously not.​

Sasky's PS took Senjutsu enhanced BM Yin Kyuubi's tail

 

[Izanamı.]

Sasky's PS took Senjutsu enhanced BM Yin Kyuubi's tail

Rikudo Sasuke? LOL! You are using Rikudo Sasuke to say Minato loses. You're such a fan. Sasuke even lost his PS sword.​

 

[BlacLord™]

He tanked a standard biju dama. Can he tank everything? LOL! Perfect jin >> biju
Half of Kurama with a jin made a TBB bigger than 5 biju. Madara tanked a small one from a single biju.

Minato teleported in base Juubi's Dama that is much bigger than Hachibi.

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Learn to read dummy, I said he can't teleport PS willy-nilly. And as I already pointed, it's pointless. What's Madara supposed to do? Crap himself to death because he's been teleported? It's not offensive idiot.

So, Kurama, whose been using his own abilities for centuries is not as good as an adult who had been using them for a whole few hours or a kid who used them for a few years? Debilitated Kurama made a Bijuudama far bigger than the combined efforts of BSM Naruto and BM Minato together:

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Get a grip.

Even a worn down piece of Yang Kurama made a Bijuudama much bigger.

No proof at all of the latter part, also, if he was fighting Madara head on, Madara would've negged him with his 3 tomoe alone.

So the guy who defeated MS Izuna, who was equal to MS Madara, gets beat by 3T? Rofl.

Madara sensed Tobirama's surprise attack beforehand and still wasn't quick enough to successfully execute a counter-surprise strike.

Lmao, such a fapboy.

 

[BLAZE]

Rikudo Sasuke? LOL! He even lost his PS sword.​

lololololol
and like it wasn't Rikudo Naruto adding the fact he had Rikudo Senjutsu too
Go and look at it again Lol

 

[Haizaki]

It's absolutely horrifying that people think Madara wins.

-Madara's PS tanked I bijuudama from a 100% Kurama. The issue is that perfect jinchurikis are FAR more powerful than the bijuus themselves, hence the reason why BM naruto has far better DC feats than Kurama. ONE bijuudama from BM naruto, countered 5 bijuudamas from the other bijuus with ease.
- Hashirmaa's Chojo Kebutsu took a dump on Madara's PS. That attack stalemated with roughly 12 bijuu damas with PS blades(or slightly overpowered). These were all "standard" bijuudamas, not the ones Minatao or Naruto use in BM. A bijuudama barrage from BM minato(3 or 4) simply breaks open Madara's PS and kills him.
-I haven't even taken into account Minato's FTG, which is going to be enhanced in Bijuu mode, where he easily evades all of Madara's attacks.


BM minato wins easily. This is not a close fight, but a rout. On second thoughts, Madara would probably lose high diff even with the Kyuubi.

Thread over, Nothing to see here.