Muu vs Minato

[Xlad]

Minato mid diff.

 

[Conspirator.]

Minato wins.

 

[Bogard]

Summoning isn't restricted, so Ma should find Muu pretty easily

 

[TRE MERCER]

Minato shits... Once the toads come out Minato can use them as a blockade then makes multiple shadow clones each holding a kunai once the shadow clones spread out they wait for an Attack the confused Muu won't know what to do so once he attacks the first one the real Minato blitz via ftg the clone was holding...

 

[Beans2]

Minato has full intel, he'll sense Mu splitting into two, as that'll make two chakra signatures. Thus this tactic isn't gonna work.

Mu can't be sensed.

 

[KidGamer65]

Mu can't be sensed.

When invisible. He can't mold chakra while visible, thus he can't split while invisible.

 

[Beans2]

When invisible. He can't mold chakra while visible, thus he can't split while invisible.

Yet he can still fly while invisible.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yet he can still fly while invisible.

His flight is because of the Light Weight Rock Technique. Pretty sure something in DB4 confirms it. That technique is activated to lighten the user, there is no chakra being molded continuously, so he can still fly while invisible. Either that, or there is another explanation, because him becoming visible to use Jinton is proof that he can't mold chakra while invisible.

 

[Bronze]

I love how people cherry pick what ever fits their argument, lel. Mu goes invisible, and chops Minato with his sword while invisible.

 

[Beans2]

His flight is because of the Light Weight Rock Technique. Pretty sure something in DB4 confirms it. That technique is activated to lighten the user, there is no chakra being molded continuously, so he can still fly while invisible. Either that, or there is another explanation, because him becoming visible to use Jinton is proof that he can't mold chakra while invisible.

I'm aware that his flight is an extension of lightened boulder. This scan more or less confirms it

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Onoki was flying when he punched Deidara's clay clone of Kabuto and it was a light punch. Kabuto (speaking through Mu) isn't worried about getting punched by the Raikage since he knew Onoki lightened him, and expected it to be light. Unless Kabuto's interpretation of the jutsu is wrong (unlikely considering he is very knowledgeable about most techniques in general), then flying is an extension of that lightening technique.

I used to think that Muu/Onoki continuously made themselves light and heavy to fly, since if they simply lighten themselves to the point where they are lighter than air, they would just slowly drift upwards and not be able to be extremely agile and move in any direction they choose. Therefore, it's a series of using both light and heavy to move about while airborne. However, this explanation doesn't make sense since Onoki lightened Kurotsuchi and Akatuschi and they were able to move in any direction despite not capable of using Lightened/weighted boulder technique (albeit at a much slower speed than Mu or Onoki.)

There are other possible explanations for Muu not being able to use jinton when invisible, but this one makes the most sense to me.

In short: I'm agreeing with you.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I love how people cherry pick what ever fits their argument, lel. Mu goes invisible, and chops Minato with his sword while invisible.

Clones make this neigh impossible to do...

 

[Bronze]

Clones make this neigh impossible to do...

Nope .

 

[ARGUS]

whats stopping muu from using a large scale jinton, especially when he knows that the clones reduce the probability of his victory,
and why is minato being granted multi shadow clones? when we have never seen him perform more than 2 KB

and why exactly does minato have to stay stationary and wait for muu to attack? he can just spread out and get each of his clones to carry out a kunai, therefore allowing minato to have a sense of muus whereabouts, and teleport right at him to attack,

 

[Beans2]

whats stopping muu from using a large scale jinton, especially when he knows that the clones reduce the probability of his victory,

Jinton is more or less useless here since Minato can warp it away with S/T barrier or simply teleport to avoid it

and why is minato being granted multi shadow clones? when we have never seen him perform more than 2 KB

didnt minato explicitly state he couldnt make more than 2 clones because he was maintaining the hokage barrier simultaneously? or was that tobirama?

and why exactly does minato have to stay stationary and wait for muu to attack? he can just spread out and get each of his clones to carry out a kunai, therefore allowing minato to have a sense of muus whereabouts, and teleport right at him to attack,

i dont understand what you are saying

 

[Unorthodox]

Minato stomps muu is overrated

 

[Beans2]

Minato stomps muu is overrated

mu > MS sasuke

 

[Unorthodox]

mu > MS sasuke

Hebi Sasuke gets the job done

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nope .

Yes...

whats stopping muu from using a large scale jinton, especially when he knows that the clones reduce the probability of his victory,
and why is minato being granted multi shadow clones? when we have never seen him perform more than 2 KB

and why exactly does minato have to stay stationary and wait for muu to attack? he can just spread out and get each of his clones to carry out a kunai, therefore allowing minato to have a sense of muus whereabouts, and teleport right at him to attack,

He only needs 2KB's... L0l Jinton are you serious? Minato lace the entire BF with Kunai with his base running speed.

 

[Beans2]

Hebi Sasuke gets the job done

Lord Mū nukes him with jinton

 

[Gold Lightning]

This rock ninja fodder, Miharu made 20 shadow clones with 0 effort. Yet it's being questioned if minato can do more than 2 Lol:

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And minato is the one that sensed the 20 enemies and deduced that they were all shadow clones. He wasn't surprised by how many clones there were. People try to make multiple clones seem like some s rank level mastery, it's really not that complex. If you've got the chakra, then it's more than fine to make a bunch of clones (it just means you'll exhaust yourself faster). An old exhausted Hiruzen was still using 2 clones. And in his Edo state he pulled off 4 clones (since there were not drawbacks). Someone needs to remind me if Kakashi used lots of shadow clones on gatos men in part 1 or not, I don't remember.