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stop it Tsunade with 4 kages cant beat rinnegan Madara
Guy is JJ level add summoning and gokages and Guy still takes this
Guy is JJ level add summoning and gokages and Guy still takes this
Katsuyu has been hyped in the databook to tank ANY physical attack, the hype was shown to be true when she tanked ST with no damage. Its not hard to see.
- No limit fallacy. Post that Databook page...Raikiri was said to cut through anything.
- What attacks can she not tank? Lol
NINJUTSU; Katsuyu Daibunretsu (Katsuyu's Grand Division of the Slugs*)
User: Katsuyu
Supplementary; Rank: none
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Capturing her is impossible already! Because she is a boneless mollusk, she has a fantastical ability to transform at will, that of deciding to divide her whole body or to reunite it. All physical attacks are nullified before this technique. No matter how violent the strike, it won't amount to more than a fruitless attempt. The enemy will just exhaust themselves accordingly and eventually fall to the ground.
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-Her mollusk's body, which has no part that can be grasped, brings forth a full-body division!
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-She avoids the attacks by dividing her whole body. And she did so with ease, even against Manda, Orochimaru's summoned Great Snake's firm and tight grip.
*"Katsuyu" is just a custom reading for "namekuji", which translates as "slug".
Not what I mean. She took no damage from ST meaning attacks at ST's level are tanked. That is where her hype can be shown to be true. Hirudora is at ST's level.
Databook 2 - Katsuyu Daibunretsu:
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Next time someone asks me why I can't take Sakura fans seriously in versus threads, I'll show them this thread.
You get any Sig worthy quotes, my lady? Lol
You get any Sig worthy quotes, my lady? Lol
No, don't fool yourself. sakura's punches aren't superior to Tsunade's
That horn was extremely thin, so it's not something to gloat about.
i got one from Hinata fan in Vs about kaguya's horn
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I understand your reading comprehension is sub par, but looking at that, any sane person can see how thin that horn was/is. It's most likely no thicker than 2-3 inches .
Ask dat to Rikudo Sage Mode naruto's Bijuu enhanced punch Lol
Hmm that seems kind of hard to prove. Then again all you have to do is prove how the palm is sending chakra to block the chakra points.
Key point "Aspects of Gentle Fist"
What are Jyuuken's aspects? Destroying chakra, sealing chakra points, and damaging organs .
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.Because they are two different scenarios genius. The first Hirudora has a bigger DC, but the goal was completely different. Gai was never trying to kill Kisame in the first place, but to counter Kisame's gigantic building size GSB. Everything else was collateral damage. It's similar to deva path tanking k6 naruto's TBB, but getting killed by a rasengan. The reason being that he was at the edge of the blast radius, so the energy output exponentially decays the further you go from the epicentre.(same with Kisame and Hirudora). The fact that Kisame was STILL paralysed speaks volumes. Of course I know the DC of the first Hirudora is greater, but the point I'm making is that if it was done on land, the Hirudora would be MORE powerful.
The reason why the second Hirudora is more applicable, is because the situation is likely to be the same in this fight. You are suggesting that she'll summon Katsuyu as meatshield, similar to Susanoo being a defence( Not that she'll ever being able to summn it..) In the madara fight, Gai's goal to break open Madara's Susanoo, and damage him as much as possible. The fact is, an EXHAUSTED Gai, destroyed a v3 Susanoo, and damaged Madara as well. So unless,Katsuyu/Tsunade have a much higher durability than a v3 Susanoo,they get destroyed and turned to maroon paste instantly. Quite simple. They'd probably have to have durability on par with a v4 Susanoo to take it(the same Susanoo that blocking the impact of TBBs getting slammed into it.) There's nothing that even begins to imply that Katsuyu/Tsunade are that durable. Lol
But it's not the strongest one that he's capable of. Again....
-He wasn't trying to kill Kisame.
-The attack was done UNDERWATER, where it's harder to gather air pressure, and he had to go through a massive GSB to boot.
Of course, even the Hirdora an exhausted Gai used is enough to win the fight against Tsunade, so this isn't that important....
All irrelevant, as my point is that a fresh Gai's HIrudora on land would have greater DC than what we saw on either of the 2 occasions.
Kisame used an attack to try and counter it, but didn't get the full impact of the blast because of it. v3 Susanoo>Katsuyu by feats durability wise. No evidence to suggest other wise.
No, she dies a horrific death. Even Gai's 7th gate punches/attacks would kill her as he can output damage faster than she can heal and kill her before she can regenerate. Hirudora is possibly not even needed.
It pretty much murdered a 30% Kisame clone. More than sufficient to take out Tsunade instantly.
Did you read my post? No where did I imply that Hirudora is as powerful as those techniques, but just like those other techniques that were listed(PS slash, bijuudama etc), it outputs a greater damage PER UNIT AREA than chou shinra tensei(as some fodders survived it). That is what is important. Just like fodders survived the Juubi tenpechii with a cloak. Hell Madara's v3 tanked it, yet was brutally destroyed by Hirudora. Is Hirudora above Tenpechii power wise overall? No, but it produces more damage per unit area. There's no evidence that Tsunade can withstand such an attack.
Ay tanked it without any damage, and WITHOUT healing. Tsunade had her healing technique on the entire time, but still had minor difference. You need to learn the difference between durability and healing. Tanking attacks head on like the 3rd Raikage is durability. Healing from something is not. Tsunade's body isn't even close to Ay's durability, especially with his ration armour. Unless you're implying that a chidori won't penetrate Tsunade's skin properly and give her a minor wound only............ Tsunade is no where near Ay's durability.
Irrelevant, Gai pushed back Juubi jin Madara.(more than what Tsunade would have done), hence his speed is eons above hers. He blitzes, and pounds her body with skull bashing 7th gate punches at a faster rate than she can heal, and she's not hitting him with her speed. Even if she does heal, Gai is smart enough to resort to using a kunai in gated mode like Lee did, to decapitate her. Gai wins low diff
I couldn't disagree more.
I don't care. When I said that Gai's hirudora "wasn't at it's strongest", I meant it wasn't the strongest Hirudora that's he's capable of. By continuing to reference Kisame's survival, without looking at the circumstances behind it, your arguments are becoming fallacious.
A: Gai wasn't trying to kill Kisame. Manga fact that cannot be denied.
B: Gai's Hirudora against Kisame was done UNDERWATER. Do you know what this implies? Hirudora works on the principle of concentrating a large amount of air pressure into punches and attacks. This is a LOT harder to do underwater, which means it's clearly much weaker than a Hirudora done above the ground.
C: And finally to boot, Gai's Hirudora had to travel through Kisame's gigantic GSB, so Kisame didn't even the get the brunt of the explosion.
The point being, Gai's maximum Hirudora is far above what he showed against Kisame, and it absolutely rapes Tsunade.
Wrong,Gai didn't use his most powerful attack against Kisame, for the circumstances shown above. You do realise that Gai was EXHAUSTED against Madara, and yet he still obliterated a v3 Susanoo. Even if the DC of the first Hirudora is greater, getting hit directly by the attack(like Madara's SUsanoo did) results in more overall damage. Also, the attack not only broke open Madara's Susanoo, but damaged him too. How do we know this? The mokuton that was binding the Hachibi "loosened", and we didn't see Madara for a chapter. So he was clearly regenerating. A full powered bloodlusted above the ground Hirudora from Gai absolutely craps on Tsunade and her fodder slug summon.
Irrelevant, when Gai's attacks are several tiers above Madara's katons, and no, Hirudora WILL phase Tsunade and kill her. Gai was in the 8th gate was a massive period of time(longer than the sages convo with Naruto and Sasuke), so continuously pounding Tsunade into submission in the 7th gate is not an issue for him.
I know it's a powerful attack with a gargantuan AOE, and I said so. But it's damage per unit area is low in comparison to jutsus like a PS slash, bijuu bomb, Hirudora, Evening elephant etc. My comparison with the Juubis TEnpechii still stands. This is a fact.
Tsunade isn't anywhere near as durable as Ay. Where the hell did you get that from? She survived the attack because of her healing. That is not equivalent to durability. Also, she can't heal from jutsus that instantly kill her, and the 6th gate punches and Hirudora will. Their damage output is too fast for Tsunade to regenerate. Gai stomps her.
So a shinobi who pushed back Juubi jin Madara can't blitz Tsunade? Good to know. Lol
.LOL! Using the Kisame example is stupid has hell.
-Gai wasn't trying to kill him, so the Hirudora was not at it's strongest.
-The attack went through his GSB(one of his strongest moves) like you said, and he was STILL paralysed after all that. A full powered Hirdora murders him even with GSB.
Like I said, Hirudora from an EXHAUSTED Gai raped Madara's EMS v3 Susanoo. So unless Tsunade's durability is far above a v3 Susanoo(it isn't) she gets turned into maroon paste instantly.
Gai's 6th gate punches easily evaporate water, and so his attacks in the 7th gate are obviously far warmer/stronger than Madara's katons. Either way, continuous damage to the skull will eventually murder Tsunade.(not counting Hirudora). And EVEN IF you are right, and Tsunade heals from everything, Gai is smart enough to use a kunai(like Gated lee did) and behead Tsunade.(who is slow in comparison to 7th gate gao)
No. Chou shinra tensei attack is a strong attack that destroyed a village(many buildings), but Narutoverse standard human durability is different as you know. Chou shinra tensei is similar to the Juubi's Tenpenchii, in that's it's a really strong attack with a gigantic AOE, but the amount of damage per unit area is less. This is why fodders with a cloak survived it, and Madara's v3 Susanoo tanked it with zero damage(still got destroyed by Hirudora though). This is the same reason why some fodders survived the Chou shinra tensei, inspite of it's strength. Hirdora's damage per unit area is far superior, hence it obliterates Katsuyu and Tsunade.(if Tsunade even has time to summon it.) Are we going to say that Tsunade can beat EMS madara since Katsuyu could tank a PS slash? Same principle, but less extreme.
What? That is obvious hyperbole. And by "blitz" I mean attack before she can even do anything like weaving handseals to summon Katusyu. Gai blitzes, and bashes her skull in continuously with powerful kicks and punches that could possibly bash her head off. Even if they can't, Hirduora turns her into maroon paste
Dude, **** off maybe? I wasn't talking to you, was I? Or are you just thirsty for attention?
Keimil can quote that post of mine all he damn feels like it, it's his own ignorance he's displaying, not mine. Air Palm is literally nothing short of a long ranged Gentle Fist attack, and we've already seen how Gentle fist can block off Sealed Chakra sources, as was shown when Neji blocked and prevented Kidomaru from gaining access to his Curse seal by striking it with Gentle Fist. An Air Palm to such a giant forehead would surely not miss, and thus, seal of the Yin seal from Sakura's usage, just as Neji sealed off the Curse Seal from Kidomaru's usage.