Senju clan 'used to be the strongest'

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Hiashi, Neji, Hanabi, Hinata all hold it down for Uchiha representation too I guess? Lol

Try harder mate.

The Hyuga are descended from Hamura.

The Senju and Uchiha are descended from Hagormo by extention of his 2 sons Ashura (Senju) and Indra (Uchiha).
 

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Try harder mate.

The Hyuga are descended from Hamura.

The Senju and Uchiha are descended from Hagormo by extention of his 2 sons Ashura (Senju) and Indra (Uchiha).

So what? Who cares about Hamura? We're talking about the senju here only
 

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Why would the Uchiha be closely related to the senju? I am talking about hyuga being related to uchiha

By your logic all uchiha and hyuga should be able to represent both clan because they're related

Are you an idiot?

Kaguya had two sons Hamura and Hagoromo, right?

Hamura had the byakugan - he or his sons are the founders of the Hyuga clan

Hagoromo had the sharingan - He had two sons - Ashura (Founder of the Senju) and Indra (Founder of the Uchiha )

So the Senju are more closely related to the Uchiha than the Hyuga.
 

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No, they aren't, not in the full meaning of the word.

That scan you provided says the Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Senju, not Senju themselves. Add to that the fact that Naruto is only half Uzumaki. Now top it all off with the fact that Naruto was only named "Uzumaki" so that it wouldn't be known he's the son of Minato Namikaze. You've basically got the farthest thing from a Senju you could get, right after non-Senjus.

Counting Naruto towards the Senjus is pretty much clutching at straws, how does a completely separate clan equal Senju, anyway? Nagato, Karin and Kushina are whatever, anyway. They're good shinobi, but nowhere near the level of Uchihas.

Hashirama is indeed the pinnacle of the Senju, but he's still easily in Top 10, so does it matter?

Stop it.

The Uchiha did the same thing, unless you think they interbeed with their relatives. The only difference between the Uchiha and Senju is that the Uchiha can stay organized because they have their distinguishing Sharingan to keep them together as a clan.
 

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side note. Your ace uchiha you're naming are all solo'd by minato's a kekkei genkai less ninja and 3/4 are neged by hashi and one high diff
 

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Aren't the senju known for like a thousand or hundreds of techniques? Either way the senju were a plot device used to be superior to the Uchiha so I'm going to leave it at that.
 

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I am the one whose trolling? Tell me one thing the Senju have which 3rd Raikage or Kisame doesn't have? Average senju are the same as average sarutobi. Senju clan are extinct without any reason.

Tobirama's skill has nothing to do with his clan
Raikage didn't posess a bloodline trait straight from the sage himself, neither did Kisame. Besides, they were profound at only a few skills, Senju were profound in all. If you don't understand the concept of eyes and body, and the Senjus body being a KG as much as the Uchiha eyes, then the manga passed you by. Why did Kakashi have crap stamina with sharigan? Why did Uchiha that possesed MS have a limit to how much they could use it? Why did most Uchiha have crap stamina compared to Senju or Why did Madara choose someone from Senju bloodline to host his Rinnegan, than someone from his own clan?

Don't argue with the manga...
 

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Aren't the senju known for like a thousand or hundreds of techniques? Either way the senju were a plot device used to be superior to the Uchiha so I'm going to leave it at that.

Senju were all hype who became extinct bro
 

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Are you an idiot?

Kaguya had two sons Hamura and Hagoromo, right?

Hamura had the byakugan - he or his sons are the founders of the Hyuga clan

Hagoromo had the sharingan - He had two sons - Ashura (Founder of the Senju) and Indra (Founder of the Uchiha )

So the Senju are more closely related to the Uchiha than the Hyuga.

So what if they're related? What the **** relation has to do in this thread?
 

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All hype that goes unchallenged :coffee:

So yeah just a plot device used to challenge the uchiha.

Well yeah. I dont buy the senju hype at all.

Not to mention they vanished, which is shameful ? Why wouln't they try to preserve their bloodline if they're so special?
 

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So what if they're related? What the **** relation has to do in this thread?

Debunking your idiotic response

Why would the Uchiha be closely related to the senju?

Starting to wonder if you even read the manga.

Manga stated Naruto is of the Senju bloodline. It's pretty obvious why Kishi set this up. Indra and Ashura's incarnations:

Indra--->Madara--->Sasuke (Uchiha)

Ashura--->Hashirama--->Naruto (Senju)
 

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Madara Rules, Naruto isn't a Senju. Coming from a clan distantly related to the Senju, does not make you one.

OT:The Senju were only superior during Hashirama's time. If the Senju were always far superior to them, the uchiha would have been wiped out long ago.
 

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Madara Rules, Naruto isn't a Senju. Coming from a clan distantly related to the Senju, does not make you one.

OT:The Senju were only superior during Hashirama's time. If the Senju were always far superior to them, the uchiha would have been wiped out long ago.

Not saying he's literally a senju. I'm saying manga confirms he's of the Senju bloodline.
 

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Debunking your idiotic response



Starting to wonder if you even read the manga.

Manga stated Naruto is of the Senju bloodline. It's pretty obvious why Kishi set this up. Indra and Ashura's incarnations:

Indra--->Madara--->Sasuke (Uchiha)

Ashura--->Hashirama--->Naruto (Senju)

You're still stuck with your retarded statement? Naruto is an Uzumaki. U Z U M AKI. Period

Naruto is not called Senju. Ancestry means shit. Senju is a name. If Naruto has the senju name, he is a senju. If Naruto doesn't, then he's not a senju

Hashirama Senju = Senju
Naruto Uzumaki = Uzumaki
 

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Naruto being a Senju (which he's not, call him an Uzumaki, a Namikaze, doesn't matter, they're both actually correct) is what alot of people are trying to push as truth...

I'm guessing the Ootsutsukis can also be counted as Uchiha, since, you know, Uchiha are distantly related to them?

Senju =/= Uzumaki when it comes to clan arguments, the OP clearly meant Senju-only.

Joseph Holmes said:
Hashirama Senju = Senju
Naruto Uzumaki = Uzumaki

As simple as that.
 

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Madara Rules, Naruto isn't a Senju. Coming from a clan distantly related to the Senju, does not make you one.

OT:The Senju were only superior during Hashirama's time. If the Senju were always far superior to them, the uchiha would have been wiped out long ago.

Exactly bro! And these senju wankers act if Obito, Itachi, Sasuke never existed. Not to mention Uchiha has feats while senju is all hype. Hashirama is the only senju with KKG

Also the senju became extinct by themselves. So much for the superior clan :|
 
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