[Discussion] Law vs Ace

[TRE MERCER]

Law neg difficulty i fail to see how Ace can even be compared... He has no good speed feats he has no good Haki feats... Law shits on the latter... He cut the entire top half of Dressrosa yet he can't beat someone one that lost to an inexperienced Black beard? L0l All Ace attacks gets swapped out of the way and Law proceeds to take his heart out...

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Ace win this with mid diff (at best).

 

[ultraChalk]

Law man .

 

[Ridoku X]

Law high diff v_v



If Radio knife does indeed affect Logias in the shown way, then it solo's.

 

[jiraiya lives]

I still don't see how Ace can push law to mid diff let alone beat him...

Law has one of the most haxxed DF and diverse moveset in the series shown so far. And I also believe law to be more "battle smart". Ace's best bet of winning is if he stays out of the area of room and fires long range projectile attacks but even then those attacks will likely get stopped like Fuji's long ranged meteor. Or he could try to outlast Law since it's been revealed that Laws power and usage of room decreases the more he uses up his stamina. This shouldn't be a problem since Ace has fought for ten days straight in the past.

I just don't see Ace lasting long enough until law runs out of stamina, Law wins way before that.

 

[Zorø]

How does he win though?

A weakened Ace can defend against a Admiral. Law is getting help from Luffy and can barely defend themselves against a Schichibukai.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

A weakened Ace can defend against a Admiral. Law is getting help from Luffy and can barely defend themselves against a Schichibukai.

Only because Fire stalemates Ice.

 

[jiraiya lives]

A weakened Ace can defend against a Admiral. Law is getting help from Luffy and can barely defend themselves against a Schichibukai.

are you talking about when he blocked an attack from Aokiji?

You do realize that weakened or not there isn't any evidence that suggests that his DF abilities get weaker along with him. his attack would of been just as effective weather he was at 100% or dying...Also Fire>Ice so it makes sense that he blocked it but look at what happened when he went up against Akainu, he basically got one shotted Lol

If you want to use defending against an admiral then Law defended against Fujitora in greenbit all while trying to conserve his power so that he could fight against Doflamingo U_U

Hell even crocodile, who was in impel down longer than ace and probably in an even weaker state after fighting his way out still managed to slice Akainu in half and would of probably killed Akainu if he had CoA

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'll give it to Law mid-diff. He has already shown he can handle Logias, and his speed and range are all ahead of Ace's.

 

[Zorø]

Only because Fire stalemates Ice.

By your Logic if somelike weak like Buggy had Ace devil fruit they would still be able to fend off an admiral attack see where am getting at? It took Ace's own strengh aswell....even Vista said " Of course he will be able to handle Aokiji he is our second division commander" something along those lines U_U...the point is dont underestimate Ace.

are you talking about when he blocked an attack from Aokiji?

You do realize that weakened or not there isn't any evidence that suggests that his DF abilities get weaker along with him. his attack would of been just as effective weather he was at 100% or dying...Also Fire>Ice so it makes sense that he blocked it but look at what happened when he went up against Akainu, he basically got one shotted Lol

If you want to use defending against an admiral then Law defended against Fujitora in greenbit all while trying to conserve his power so that he could fight against Doflamingo U_U

He chose to get one shotted he was protecting his brother. Also Im not saying he had a chance against Akainu.

 

[Punk Hazard]

By your Logic if somelike weak like Buggy had Ace devil fruit they would still be able to fend off an admiral attack see where am getting at? It took Ace's own strengh aswell....even Vista said " Of course he will be able to handle Aokiji he is our second division commander" something along those lines U_U...the point is dont underestimate Ace.


He chose to get one shotted he was protecting his brother. Also Im not saying he had a chance against Akainu.

His point is valid. Even if Ace was healthier, that wouldn't make the attack stronger. At 100%, it would have accomplished the exact same thing.

 

[Zorø]

His point is valid. Even if Ace was healthier, that wouldn't make the attack stronger. At 100%, it would have accomplished the exact same thing.

All Im saying is Ace was 2nd division commander for a reason dont underestimate him....He's been in the New World longer than Law has I dont think Law is stronger yet. He is close doe.

 

[Punk Hazard]

All Im saying is Ace was 2nd division commander for a reason dont underestimate him....He's been in the New World longer than Law has I dont think Law is stronger yet. He is close doe.

Monet, Violet and Rebecca has so far spent their entire lives in the New World, all inferior to Law, Zoro, Luffy and Sanji, who have been in the New World for maybe a couple weeks at best(not Law), so that part of your argument isn't applicable.

I know I shouldn't underestimate Ace, that has nothing to do with what we said and doesn't actually counter the particular argument.

 

[VongolaX]

A weakened Ace can defend against a Admiral. Law is getting help from Luffy and can barely defend themselves against a Schichibukai.

But Fire is greater than ice...

It was discharged, so no Haki followed through the attack.

Can't Law chop of his arm?

 

[Punk Hazard]

But Fire is greater than ice...

It was discharged, so no Haki followed through the attack.

Can't Law chop of his arm?

Seeing as how Aokiji stalemated with Akainu for ten days(Punk Hazard was frozen and blazing half and half and both received grievous injuries), I highly doubt Aokiji's ice is actually inferior to fire. Not ice, but Aokiji's ice. Aokiji can freeze miles and miles of ocean and two colossal tsunamis in a matter of seconds. Aokiji's ice has to be immensely cold, probably near absolute zero.

 

[TRE MERCER]

A weakened Ace can defend against a Admiral. Law is getting help from Luffy and can barely defend themselves against a Schichibukai.

This logic right here is why OP vs battles are poor lets stick the the opponents feats here... Ace can try and avoid the room as long as possibly but all Law has to do get with 10m of Ace which won't be hard seeing as Ace has no good speed feats... Also the room Aoe is huge.(

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[Joseph Gomes]

Law should win. Ace has poor battle techniques and relies too much on devil fruit. Law already whooped a logia's ass and has tons of hax abilities. One good slash and ace is gone

Hypewise Ace wins...but Law has much better feats with application

 

[Red Swag]

law takes this

is this even a question.


can ace even beat vergo? answer that first then go to law

 

[Zorø]

law takes this

is this even a question.


can ace even beat vergo? answer that first then go to law

Ace would shit on Vergo...

 

[VongolaX]

Seeing as how Aokiji stalemated with Akainu for ten days(Punk Hazard was frozen and blazing half and half and both received grievous injuries), I highly doubt Aokiji's ice is actually inferior to fire. Not ice, but Aokiji's ice. Aokiji can freeze miles and miles of ocean and two colossal tsunamis in a matter of seconds. Aokiji's ice has to be immensely cold, probably near absolute zero.

I stated that his Ice was dispersed from his hand, so no amount of Haki can be used in addition to his devil fruit powers.

Now, as I remind you...

Magma is composed of fire and earth, that earth element is also a factor that supports Aokji against Akainu.

Just like how Crocodile can make contact with Akainu without being burned whatsoever.