The Last of Sakura's character.

[Silverforsakenhamster]

If I here people say that "this ruined sakura's development" Oh lord have mercy because this was not her development to begin with.

 

[Chie]

Kishi could have at least explained why the Senju clan isn't around anymore.

Well, it looks like they just eventually broke up. Hashirama was the leader of that clan and he preached against clan isolation, so something like that would make sense. The original point for Konoha was to unify clans so that the bias that was so prevalent during the war eras would cease, and that all citizens could work for a common cause (that common cause being the peace of the site as a whole) which was expected to bring peace. Tsunade is 25% Senju, she doesn't mention the clan. Usually if something horrific happens to a clan, the descendant mentions it in this series. Lol

But, that is true. He should have stated why it's no longer prominent.

ot: Sasuke had a kid with Sakura. Named Salad. I wonder who named it that.

 

[SUPERDEADLYKING]

I think think she is a good character, in the end it's fictional so shouldn't be taken to seriously but it is our passion so it's understandable. Now i like sakura's character of course she won't be able to match naruto and sasuke who come from legendary clans, one had a jinjurhiki in him and the other had the powers of the sharingan where as sakura was born in a normal family so i think she has done quite well but of course she could of had MORE development i won't disagree with that at all. but she has done some good things however she is too over shadowed by naruto and sasuke but at the age of 17 she was able to master tsunade's jutsu's, that is a great feat imo but her problem is sasuke kun, too soft on him and she hasn't got good mental health which can be normal imo. Sakura is not my fav femail though that goes to hinata,rin and konan lol

 

[L Lawliet]

Jesus Christ, people. I've only been away from this thread 1 day, and once I get back it's been 16 pages long?

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Could it be that the series is still ongoing and I haven't heart anything about it...? ...No? :Okay:.

FFS, Hinata's way better than Sakura not only in terms of being Naruto's wife and the mother of his children but also in terms of being a Shinobi. Like, seriously, the series is over! GET OVER IT.

Oh, look! Sakura ended up with Sasuke. BIG DEAL! Let's bash the girl for not staying with whom we wanted her to stay with! SMH....

Oh, look! Chouji and Karui ended up together and that came from no foreshadowing and no previous character development whatsoever! WHO CARES? Is Chouji Happy? HE MUST BE, HE GOT A DAUGHTER WITH HER AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY ABOUT TO DIVORCE... GET OVER IT.

Oh, Look, Inojin looks like Edward Cullen's zombie son/daughter... WHO ****ING CARES? IS IT YOUR STORY? DO YOU WORK AT SHONEN JUMP? NO? THEN SAVE IT!

Oh, Look, their children's names are so dumb-YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL SUCH EXPERTS OF JAPANESE CULTURE AND WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF BETTER NAMES FOR THEM. I SHOULD HAVE A DAUGHTER AND HAVE HER NAMED AFTER YOU.

SO MUCH COMPLAINING!


Jesus Christ, did these people even LOVE the series at all? What are we doing with so many bullshitters on this site, man? Mattaku!

 

[Avani]

>sasuke tries to kill naruto many times
>tries to kill kakashi
>tries to kill sakura
>tries to kill everyone (even people who help him)

-Everyone forgives him -

Only sakura is the bad role model


Shoujo mean girl not romance .

Lol true. But I find it hilarious when Sasuke sympathizers join the band - She is just one of them.

Shoujo is targeted to females, what females are looking for? Romance.

That kind of stereotyping is what makes females read shonnen despite them being unhappy with lack of properly developed females in shonnens.

Also a big reason why girls write FF for a lot of them end up making one of their favourite characters too girly or go for gender bender fictions. Unfortunately it's not only conservative Japan - same tendency of keeping a show intended for boys restricted to male audience only is seen in shows from USA too.

Girls will be there but not as interesting as the guy and a step behind.

We need boys, but we need girls right there, right one step behind the boys" -- this is the network talking -- "one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys, but right there." And then we began writing stories that got into the two girls' back stories, and they were really interesting. And suddenly we had families and girls watching, and girls really became a big part of our audience, in sort of like they picked up that Harry Potter type of serialized way, which is what The Batman and [indistinct]'s really gonna kill. But, the Cartoon Network was saying, '****, no, we want the boys' action, it's boys' action, this goofy boy humor we've gotta get that in there. And we can't -- and I'd say, but look at the numbers, we've got parents watching, with the families, and then when you break it down -- "Yeah, but the -- so many -- we've got too many girls. We need more boys."

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Kakashi - Lost his Father, never knew his mother, lost his comrades and teacher.

Naruto - Never had any family as a child, not knowing who is parents was throughout most of the series, really had no friends, everyone treated him like a monster, lost his teacher.

Sasuke - Lost his clan to his older brother due to a mission, finds out his brother did it to protect him after Sasuke killed him, after his clan's death he had no friends.

sakura - ........ was a fanboy/love of Sasuke.


So when people say Naruto and kakashi was just as crazy for bringing Sasuke back, they knew his pain because they went through the samething as he did. Sakura didn't have to go through pain other than getting disrespected by a guy the whole series and him leaving and losing a old lady she spent about a day with.

You have to feel the same pain to love someone? Did Hinata feel the same loss? Didn't she started stalking Naruto at first because she thought he was a loser like her. Of course, she found out Naruto was hard working and tried to change herself too and all that jazz. But she only watched the heroic side of him for the most part. It worked for her. But that's all. It's not like is ever going to ask why or how he was able to forgive Obito. She is just going to adore Naruto for being able to. Or do you think she will feel shocked and tell him he shouldn't have?

Since I came to NB I have supported both Sakura's character and her abilities. She was one of my favorite characters. I cannot defend her character anymore. There is nothing to defend really, the haters were right, she did end up loving Sasuke all the way till the end. That right there destroys any development I thought she had.

Her development wasn't about getting with Naruto, it was simply getting over Sasuke. ..........
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..........but I simply dont know why Kishimoto ended her character in the way that he did. I guess it will always baffle me. Dont get me started on her in the 700.

Sasusaku you got your pairing but lost Sakura in the end sadly. ​

You thought how it should go and then assumed it would definitely go that way... That's the problem with sticking to one's own theories too strongly. It always ends up with huge disappointments.

I don't see why you could be so sure to make that her development was getting over Sasuke. It was clear that she was still in love when that other shinobi asked her out during War and she refused and thought about Sasuke instead.

She knows exactly what kind of person she is and yet sympathies because of what his past. She is hardly worse that so many Sasuke fan we have at this forum itself. If they can still defend him despite all his actions and want best for him.

People who had been trying to fix him with Karin or Hinata hoping to get his children even more OP inheriting KG s from both side are acting as if they were were any better than Kishi showing her cleaning the home.

I wonder what Hinata does? Visiting Neji's grave couldn't be her only job...

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As I said even when he wasn't crazy he still leaves her to die, puts her down and doesnt even thank her for saving him.

Sasuke treats her negatively no matter what and she still held on, again that is not a redeeming quality.

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Loving Sasuke after everything has happened shows she isnt a smart girl. Look to any of the girls who go back to the beater, do you see a smart girl? Its a stupid situation and Sakura looks like the idiot in the end. I was talking about the development I saw in her. All those negative moments SHOULD have lead to her getting over Sasuke and not depending on him to make her happy. That would have been a logical thing, oh he treats her like shit, she gets over him and moves on. Doesnt stay and deal with shit like that. Sakura could do the same thing as Naruto and be friends with Sasuke in the end. As I said she could forgive him but not forget what he did to her. The fact that her feelings didnt change at all since part 1, the fact that all that crap he did to her had no effect on her feelings really shows something wrong. He put her down, he didnt need to that. Again he didnt bugde an eye even after they fell when the scroll ripped. Kishimoto made it abundantly clear Sasuke didnt care for them. As shown by Sakura's face who looks miserable, like really she shouldnt be feeling like that. Yes very nice, like how many hours have passed since she actually saved him.... simply saying sorry and thank you doesnt make everything go away. Of course for Sakura it does and that shows very little of her. She didnt need to ask to go with him like Sasuke is still her life after everything that was has happened. She was supposed to have her own life but simply didnt care for anyone but Sasuke.... It was a terrible moment and even more worse she look down on herself when he says no. She simply has no respect for herself. She finally gets over the guy who mentally and physically tormented her. She finally makes herself independent from this guy. She stand on her own two feet without the crutch of Sasuke making her happiness. Yes that would have been great development. Sasuke is Sakura's biggest flaw. Kishimoto in her last moment portrays her as just cleaning her house while Sasuke is off around the world. Like the girl couldnt look stupider. I mean her daughter is in school all day the least she could have been doing is working in the medical unit. I dont know research, she is a smart girl, but no she is only cleaning in the end. Kishimoto couldnt even have her be the one to create Naruto's arm, it had to be Tsunade. You should be sad Sakura ended in the way she did. Its possibly the worst ending.

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Honestly,do you think Sasuke hasn't made up for that?

Also,Sasuke didn't attack the Kages - the Kages attacked him.

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The Raikage and his guards went to Sasuke to fight him,then Gaara,comes along with Temari,Kankuro,and some Samurai.They all attack Sasuke who uses Susano'o to knock down some pillars so he can escape.He then has Karin sense Danzo,then geos to the Meeting room where Danzo is.Danzo runs away,The Kages sit there waiting for Sasuke,whne he gets there sees that Danzo isn't there,he immediately leaves,then the Mizukage seals the exit.

Sasuke tells her not to get in his way,thus showing even more that he deosn't want to fight her.

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She attacks him,then her guard deos then lastly the Tsuchikage did then Tobi comes.Sasuke was there for Danzo only,The Kages are the one who attacked him.



Wait,what's wrong with her liking Good Sasuke? She didn't want to be with Hatred/Revenge Sasuke.She wanted to save him and bring good Sasuke back,now that he's here,what's wrong with her blushing for him? She never did that for bad Sasuke,and now,unlike chapter 3,she's gotten to know him more.

And she has proven not to follow Sasuke no matter what - she attempted to kill him,when he was on the wrong path.And only failed because of the possibility of him becoming good again.

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No my biggest points were very recent with putting her down, letting her die and not even thanking her. All happened while Sasuke was no longer on his path of revenge. Most recent was literally stating he found her love foolish.

No matter how writer would go at this stage Sakura and he were going to go hate from one faction or other.

Sakura - Yeah but sorry I 'm not interested in you anymore.

Sasuke- yea I understand.


Reactions:

Sakura hater Fan Mob: " Useless ***** thinks she is too good for Sasuke despite him saying sorry! Don't worry Sasuke Karin is there and she had Uzumaki genes."

Random user : " Does Karin set some higher standard than Sakura by accepting a guy who actually went for almost killed her right after she had saved his life and asked Sakura to kill her to prove her loyalty? " " Isn't it the same thing for any girl who marries him now- that she would be marrying a guy who formerly turned on almost everyone who ever helped him and betrayed everyone at one point or another? "

**Random guy is immediately slaughtered by onslaught of dislikes , neg rep and abusive flames. All ten Sasuke fanclubs and Sakura hater communities put a price on his head and are screaming at mods for letting random guy live long enough to make that post. **

Sasuke fan mob: " Idiot doesn't know that Sasuke deserves to keep his clan alive and make it more OP is possible. We hope that dumb Naruto marries that useless girl Sakura so that we can get Hinata. She has better genes. No we are not racist nor snobs. We just want to arrange our Lord's marriage to only available lady around."

Hinata Lover fan Mob: "Now that Naruto turns out to be hero and in line for Hokage useless ***** dumps Sasuke to keep Naruto hooked and meddle in life of Hinata!" " Don't walk out Hinata even if you think Naruto may still be in love with her. " " If she let's go of Naruto now I am going to kill Kishi for not getting her married to Naruto. Neji died and now Hinata is rejected after showing her devotion! **** that dumb Naruto. ."

Naruto lover mob: "Naruto even lost an arm to bring him back yet forgave him good for him. But that Sakura is one high maintenance chick for asking such a gift from a guy just because he liked her. I mean she didn't even marry Sasuke in the end. So useless that she made even Naruto's efforts useless. Our Naruto is so forgiving.... ( staring space in adoration) "

Sakura lover mob : "Yay for my girl!"

** is too tiny and it's voice is drowned among the all the other voices above**

WSJ team ( Publisher, editor writer):

"Ah no we cannot let Sakura reject Sasuke now that he is back. It brings our second main character down a notch. We have Sasuke toys to sell."

"This manga is for boys not for feminists. See those Sakura fans there- we didn't want them in this fandom in the first place! They don't buy toys or games."

Kishi: "I have to convey message that forgiving is a great virtue as well as that if you truly repent, you can get forgiveness and restart; Group Hug!! "

So yeah.

Seriously the ending could be different if it was not restricted by shonnen AND writer was not pushing for a particular message throughout the manga. Naruto forgives everyone and Minato showed the same temperament. Lee forgave Gara without a hitch. Gara became stronger after he learned to do the same. Gai and his father spent their lives forgiving everyone for mocking them and determined to turn it into an encouragement to improve themselves no matter what others thought about it. Killer Bee is the same.

Almost all truly powerful characters are the ones who are competent enough and yet able to let go of past negativity and start a new as long as other person also shows the willingness to change and is actively working on it.

Is it realistic - in real life, more often not. But it's literature which is about ideals and writer is writing to one of the most conservative country in the world which liked to keep it's traditions.

Those who seem to be shocked with the idea of Sakura , Hinata( what do you think she is doing visiting Neji's grave on a working day ) or Temari turning in to a housewife - Even today many women opt for part time jobs or house wife role in Japan when they get married because of work environment there.

They should also note that the period in Narutoverse was a little before the modern era. In the beginning computers were there but first or second generation ones. Kishi deliberately didn't use newer ones as he said in an interview. The laptop in the last chapter was significant mark to show the contrast and progress since then.

Last and not the least - everyone thinks differently. Romantic pairings are all personal preference. Within Naruto there's no correct or incorrect opinion. An argument can be made for every scenario.

What most people do here is defending a personal preference over Kishi's. They don't notice that- "I wanted Kishi to write it this way" argument is completely distinct from, "Kishi ought to have written or write X this way."



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[Avani]

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Thread cleaned and opened. Keep it strictly on topic and stay away from bashing other members or characters.

 

[A Perfect Orgasm]

Thanks for the maid service Ira
On topic: Sakura's character developed abit then plunged in 699

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I guess the lesson is to never have a female character from Kishit's as your favorite character. Mine wasn't even shown in the last 2 chapters

You picked a wrong female my friend. You should have picked either Sakura or Hinata. In the end this showed that part 1 indeed mattered.

 

[xen11]

Now he get her pregnant and left her with the baby to travel the world and be with other women if he chooses to.
Sasuke knows the game she will always take him back anyway.
Horrible writing the girl went from useless to expert medical nin but her self esteem and respect did not grow.

 

[Shruikan]

The real Chapter 699 panel without mincing any words

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[BLAZE]

Thanks Ira ....

Now he get her pregnant and left her with the baby to travel the world and be with other women if he chooses to.
Sasuke knows the game she will always take him back anyway.

Dat some nice fanfiction u got there.
How does Sasuke's daughter Knows about him
So were u reading the manga with closed eyes and could not see Sasuke changed

 

[Byron123]

Get over it.Sasuke helped saved the world,completely changed and apologized for everything.Before he was the way he was because he out revenge above everything,that is why he attacked her out of anger a couple times,etc.Now they have the good Sasuke who they knee from Team 7 back.That is the Sasuke that she likes.

Should she stay salty about the past even though he completely changed and apologized for everything?

Well apologizing for simply trying to kill you is not enough you know lol

 

[BLAZE]

Well apologizing for simply trying to kill you is not enough you know lol

i agree.
But wut more can he do :|

 

[Shruikan]

The apology looked half arsed because Kishi rushed it.If he had done it nice and smooth and maybe fleshed out a little more time before Sakura finally accepted Sasuke again it would have looked better for both the characters.He did do a timeskip of who knows how longe before that forehead poke but we are left to our imagination as to what happened there.Kishi's overuse of timeskips at the end reeks of lazy writing.Also I have to say this apology looks lol worthy because Sasuke's face doesnt indicate he is sorry at all.lol

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[BLAZE]

The apology looked half arsed because Kishi rushed it.If he had done it nice and smooth and maybe fleshed out a little more time before Sakura finally accepted Sasuke again it would have looked better for both the characters.He did do a timeskip of who knows how longe before that forehead poke but we are left to our imagination as to what happened there.Kishi's overuse of timeskips at the end reeks of lazy writing.

Agreed,The last part of the chp was rushed and we don't know wut happened between the time IT was released and Sasuke left the village

Also I have to say this apology looks lol worthy because Sasuke's face doesnt indicate he is sorry at all.lol

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Tbh i lol'd on this panel.Kakashi was acting like Sasuke should thank them for pardoning him
Sauce was like oh yeah why not,Happy :leaf:

 

[Migster257]

I somewhat agree.
I think her character development, if any, was rushed after her fight with Sasori. I was actually starting to like her, then this happens.
I don't mind that she ended up with Sasuke, but she fell in love with him again, or rather was in love him the entire time. Kishimoto should've tackled it better by letting time heal the wounds and eventually they start to feel that spark again. Instant love and forgiveness seems to be the message currently.

The apology looked half arsed because Kishi rushed it.If he had done it nice and smooth and maybe fleshed out a little more time before Sakura finally accepted Sasuke again it would have looked better for both the characters.He did do a timeskip of who knows how longe before that forehead poke but we are left to our imagination as to what happened there.Kishi's overuse of timeskips at the end reeks of lazy writing.Also I have to say this apology looks lol worthy because Sasuke's face doesnt indicate he is sorry at all.lol
That finger poke was still in chapter 699. No time skip happened there.

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[Shruikan]

I somewhat agree.
I think her character development, if any, was rushed after her fight with Sasori. I was actually starting to like her, then this happens.
I don't mind that she ended up with Sasuke, but she fell in love with him again, or rather was in love him the entire time. Kishimoto should've tackled it better by letting time heal the wounds and eventually they start to feel that spark again. Instant love and forgiveness seems to be the message currently.

No it wasnt.There was a timeskip after IT is taken down.Look at Sakura's hair.Its grown.

Its unknown how long the timeskip was although we could see it was definitely after the funerals.Many are saying it was as much as a few months

 

[Shanks]

Seriously When thread is about Hinata or Sakura Bashing number of Posts go up so high . PawsX is the man to learn from .XD

 

[Migster257]

No it wasnt.There was a timeskip after IT is taken down.Look at Sakura's hair.Its grown.

Its unknown how long the timeskip was although we could see it was definitely after the funerals.Many are saying it was as much as a few months

A few months is a time skip? I obviously know there was a literal time skip, but not a time skip that's relevant. People don't just get better in a matter of a few months.

 

[shelke]

It is no all about "valuing the relationship".

A good load of women who stick the abusive relationship are doing that for their childrens' sake. Or many of them do that due to lack of self worth.

Idk how these apply to Sakura though. She seemed confident and did not have kids from Sasuke.

Not necessarily. A lot of women stay in abusive relationships even when kids aren't even involved. I am not stating that Sasuke was abusive, because (hilariously) they never had any relationship to begin with.