3 Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara vs Naruto and Sasuke

[Exaar]

I Still think Madara has his chances of defeating both of them, Not sure how much of a chance but this is far from a stomp match.

But people saying Naruto/Sasuke solo i just don't understand. Madara has both Halfs of the sages power Plus the juubi, While Naruto only has Half of the sages strength and parts of the bijuu's chakra ( Madara's both halfs > Naruto's one half/Juubi > Naruto's Bijuu parts), Sasuke only has half of the sages strength plus the Majority of the bijuu's chakra (Madara's both halfs > Sasuke's one half/Juubi > the bijuu sasuke posses, Plus on top he has dual rinnegan while sasuke does not)

Obviously Madara's feats aren't super great but thats simply down to him getting put down before he ever got remotely serious.

 

[Unorthodox]

I think this is kinda funny. Everyone is in agreement except the Madara fanboys. Classic stuff.

right Lel

Naruto and Sasuke wins Neg diff

 

[HiddenSound]

dude, what the ****.. thats not because im a fan but because you guys see 2 new attacks and say that they best madara, you havent even seen madara's ps yet.. plus he has 3 rinnegan. limbo defeated naruto's clones because later they disappeared and his ct's werent at full size

Assumptions and speculation, that's all Madara fanboys have. I'm just going by what we've seen.
Naruto's clones outmaneuvered and pinned down Limbo, and later they were free. They could have escaped and somehow beat Naruto's Clones, or they simply went back to Madara because of the time limit.
Nothing to suggest CT wasn't at full power.

 

[Transcendence]

Sasuke can solo Naruto can't...

Either one can solo. Ashura Avatar Naruto is in the exact same league as Bijuu PS Sasuke. Naruto has a few clones stall for a few seconds to gather nature energy and then he proceeds to annihilate Madara with his Avatar.

OT: Naruto and Sasuke utterly annihilate. Either one can solo him.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Assumptions and speculation, that's all Madara fanboys have. I'm just going by what we've seen.
Naruto's clones outmaneuvered and pinned down Limbo, and later they were free. They could have escaped and somehow beat Naruto's Clones, or they simply went back to Madara because of the time limit.
Nothing to suggest CT wasn't at full power.

Ofcourse we have assumptions lol, he didn't show much.. isnt that what discussing is also about with fantasy-matches??

by the way, no. madara's eyes together gave him the full power of limbo, thats why they multiplied.. so you're saying that madara's 1 clone got sealed, and when he returned because of time limit he multiplied by 4?

 

[HiddenSound]

Ofcourse we have assumptions lol, he didn't show much.. isnt that what discussing is also about with fantasy-matches??

by the way, no. madara's eyes together gave him the full power of limbo, thats why they multiplied.. so you're saying that madara's 1 clone got sealed, and when he returned because of time limit he multiplied by 4?

Assumptions don't hold very much weight.

I'm not saying that at all.
Madara's Limbo got pinned down. Then was forcibly returned to Madara once the time limit was up. Or at least that's what it seemed. We didn't see exactly what happened so I'm open to interpretations.
But if you're saying that Limbo remained pinned down that makes it even worse for Madara because Limbo then becomes a non-factor.

 

[KidGamer65]

I Still think Madara has his chances of defeating both of them, Not sure how much of a chance but this is far from a stomp match.

But people saying Naruto/Sasuke solo i just don't understand. Madara has both Halfs of the sages power Plus the juubi, While Naruto only has Half of the sages strength and parts of the bijuu's chakra ( Madara's both halfs > Naruto's one half/Juubi > Naruto's Bijuu parts), Sasuke only has half of the sages strength plus the Majority of the bijuu's chakra (Madara's both halfs > Sasuke's one half/Juubi > the bijuu sasuke posses, Plus on top he has dual rinnegan while sasuke does not)

Obviously Madara's feats aren't super great but thats simply down to him getting put down before he ever got remotely serious.

Madara has no half of the Sage's power, he only has the same abilities he half. Naruto and Sasuke each obtained half of the Sage's power right from him, along with the corresponding abilities.

Naruto is half the Sage + Nature Energy.

Sasuke is half the Sage + 9 Bijuu.

You can try and make an argument for him winning one on one, but he gets stomped if he tries to solo.

 

[Benjamin King]

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Care to elaborate? Lol

Madara uses Infinite Tsukuyomi, then Sasuke is forced to go cover Naruto on defence, while leaving him vulnerable to be demolished by Chibaku Tensei or TBB.​

 

[Yami no Kagutsuchi]

Lord Sasuke soloes negative difficulty

 

[Nattana]

Infinite Tsukuyomi forces Sasuke to keep himself and Naruto under Susano'o coat. That gives Madara time to barrage them with anything he wants.

Also, Shin: Jukai Koutan with its global AoE is enough to pressure them long enough to outlast them.

 

[Transcendence]

Madara uses Infinite Tsukuyomi, then Sasuke is forced to go cover Naruto on defence, while leaving him vulnerable to be demolished by Chibaku Tensei or TBB.​

Infinite Tsukuyomi forces Sasuke to keep himself and Naruto under Susano'o coat. That gives Madara time to barrage them with anything he wants.

Also, Shin: Jukai Koutan with its global AoE is enough to pressure them long enough to outlast them.

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You guys do realize IT isn't even a battle type ability, right? The only reason Madara could get it off was because Naruto and Sasuke weren't even fully used to their abilities and CT Raindrops were just to bide time to use it. Current Naruto and Sasuke laugh at basically every attack Madara has shown. If Madara even tries to use CT again, Naruto makes 9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken and they're all gone, while also going towards Madara, who now has Sasuke right behind him in his massive Bijuu PS, who is cutting him to shreds and then can't activate IT.

 

[Benjamin King]

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You guys do realize IT isn't even a battle type ability, right? The only reason Madara could get it off was because Naruto and Sasuke weren't even fully used to their abilities and CT Raindrops were just to bide time to use it. Current Naruto and Sasuke laugh at basically every attack Madara has shown. If Madara even tries to use CT again, Naruto makes 9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken and they're all gone, while also going towards Madara, who now has Sasuke right behind him in his massive Bijuu PS, who is cutting him to shreds and then can't activate IT.

Every Genjutsu is a battle type. Except Madara won't use CT until he already activated IT, where Sasuke becomes vulnerable to defend Naruto, and CT rains at them afterwards.​

 

[lanakui8]

yeah Madara gets stomped, it's doubtful that he'd even be able to defeat either one of them 1 vs 1.

MT isn't happening on naruto, considering naruto blitzed someone who's far superior to him.


After casting MT, madara couldn't even fly to the ground before Naruto and Sasuke didn't need to be protected by susanoo, they easily destroy CT by the time madara creates the meteors and sends them down.

 

[Exaar]

Madara has no half of the Sage's power, he only has the same abilities he half. Naruto and Sasuke each obtained half of the Sage's power right from him, along with the corresponding abilities.

Naruto is half the Sage + Nature Energy.

Sasuke is half the Sage + 9 Bijuu.

You can try and make an argument for him winning one on one, but he gets stomped if he tries to solo.

Madara already stated he has Both of the powers that were bestowed onto Naruto and sasuke. He also has the Juubi Ontop of that. So i fail to see how either naruto or sasuke solo even if you remove the sealing requirement.
With no such restrictions on Madara, Neither Sasuke or Naruto can hope to solo.

Even if Naruto/Sasuke can defeat Madara in a 2v1 fight, I Highly doubt it's going to be a stomp.

 

[Blunt]

Assumptions and speculation, that's all Madara fanboys have. I'm just going by what we've seen.
Naruto's clones outmaneuvered and pinned down Limbo, and later they were free. They could have escaped and somehow beat Naruto's Clones, or they simply went back to Madara because of the time limit.
Nothing to suggest CT wasn't at full power.

He gets soloed by either based off of feats.

Actually everything suggests those CT weren't his full capacity, he implied this heavily. He called them raindrops, to further my point, he also only made them as a distraction to cast IT.

Going by what Madara "should be", he murders them both in a single 1v1. His arsenal is vast, his abilities would dwarf all of Nagato's with absolutely no trouble, he can also absorb power from IT victims.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara already stated he has Both of the powers that were bestowed onto Naruto and sasuke. He also has the Juubi Ontop of that. So i fail to see how either naruto or sasuke solo even if you remove the sealing requirement.
With no such restrictions on Madara, Neither Sasuke or Naruto can hope to solo.

Like I said, he only has the same general abilities. Naruto obtained half of Hagoromo's power. He got all his Yang Chakra (Something Madara does not have) and Rikudo Senjutsu. Same powers, different people, thus different results.

Naruto is faster than Madara with his Rikudo Senjutsu, he's physically stronger and more durable as well. Not to mention he has the 9 Bijuu's individual powers along with everything Madara can do in his Rikudo Senjutsu Mode.

Sasuke has all of Hagoromo's Yin Chakra (Which again, is something Madara does not have), and got his Rinnegan. Sasuke's Rinnegan can do everything Madara's can, and even Kurama said his skill was on par with Hagoromo's, and instead of having Limbo, he has S/T. And he also has his boosted Susanoo.

Now add all the Nature Energy available to Naruto and add the 9 Bijuu to Sasuke.

Madara in no way, shape or form carries both of their combined power, just the same general abilities. If they did have the same power, Madara wouldn't have ran away from Naruto and Sasuke not going all out on him, cause by this logic he'd be on par with them both. Get rid of the sealing requirement and either one solos.

Even if Naruto/Sasuke can defeat Madara in a 2v1 fight, I Highly doubt it's going to be a stomp.

Kaguya is a tier above Madara, yet she had to separate them, and that was before Sasuke and Naruto got their latest buffs. Together they are already on par with Hagoromo, and that was right after getting their power up. Add Nature Energy and the 9 Bijuu to Naruto and Sasuke respectively, and they get on Hagoromo's level individually, Madara gets stomped by two people that strong.

 

[Omar19992010]

I still think Madara can defeat them one on one but together Madara gets bent backwards.

 

[KidGamer65]

He gets soloed by either based off of feats.

Actually everything suggests those CT weren't his full capacity, he implied this heavily. He called them raindrops, to further my point, he also only made them as a distraction to cast IT.

Going by what Madara "should be", he murders them both in a single 1v1. His arsenal is vast, his abilities would dwarf all of Nagato's with absolutely no trouble, he can also absorb power from IT victims.

Power from IT victims was being pumped into his body to begin with, and he couldn't even handle it, hence him swelling up like a giant balloon. So no, he isn't using IT victim's chakra like Kaguya can.

 

[Blunt]

Power from IT victims was being pumped into his body to begin with, and he couldn't even handle it, hence him swelling up like a giant balloon. So no, he isn't using IT victim's chakra like Kaguya can.

Did I say he could to the extent that Kaguya could? Lol, if that was the case, wouldn't Kaguya be at full power as soon as she revived? Maybe I missed something, but I'm positive Madara has control of how much he absorbs.

Edit: Forgot IT was a gradual process.

 

[LuckyMan]

Madara doesn't even have feats in this form so he loses by default but he stomps them both by portrayal.