Japanese Raw - Sasuke Isn't On Rikudou's Level | Confirmation

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Correction, unless someone brings in a viz saying otherwise, what was said was that Madara was "trying to come close," showing he was never there with 1 rinnegan.
But then madara got 2nd rinnegan and even 3rd eye im sure he was on sage's level raw powerwise.
Madara had Rikudou Senjutsu. Sasuke doesn't.
Just because Sasuke doesnt whip TSBs out doesnt mean crap, Obito wasnt either after he lost juubi powers, neither was kaguya for most part and interestingly enough sasuke shows signs of senjutsu now as he is able to feel/sense nature energy :hint:
 

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You mean
Yin Kurama / Naruto vs. Shukaku/Matatabi/ Isobu/Son Goku/ Kokuō/Saiken/Chōmei /Gyūki/ Yang Kurama and Sasuke
LOL you're comparing Sasuke having the Bijuu with Naruto?

Sasuke gains the Bijuu chakra through FORCE,Naruto got it through FRIENDSHIP.Naruto also has a 1000 year old entity helping him out - Sasuke deosn't have any Bijuus loading up chakra for him,or talking to him.He deosn't have a single Bijuu gathering chakra for him while he is fighting Naruto.

It's Sasuke vs Naruto and the Kyuubi - that is clear - Sasuke forcefully gaining their chakra deosn't change that - and as i said - theres no 1000 year old entity helping him.


Also,Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuus when the battle started.

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Then he used it up in battle.

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If Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi he would of ran out of chakra and lost - the Kyuubi saved Naruto.Who's gonna be loading up Sasuke's chakra? Sasuke.
 

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Someone wanted viz scan of Madara's power compared to Hagoromo and Kaguya.

It is not mine, just found it on the internet:

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EDIT: and The Raw if someone want to translate it as well:

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Just because Sasuke doesnt whip TSBs out doesnt mean crap, Obito wasnt either after he lost juubi powers, neither was kaguya for most part and interestingly enough sasuke shows signs of senjutsu now as he is able to feel/sense nature energy :hint:
The degree of Rikudou Senjutsu he gained is nothing compared to Madara's or Naruto's. Otherwise, he would gain a cloak like them and other traits of Senjutsu.
 

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It's still a ridiculously impressive feat. For Sasuke's usage of using the rinnegan's power to be on the same level of Hagoromo at any time is an incredible to his power, and to Naruto, who, until Sasuke absorbed the bijus, was stronger.


However, the second statement is false as Kaguya was stronger, and they certainly comprehended her.
@Bold i have to disagree Naruto was not stronger. they was equal that whole time. Naruto was holding back and Sasuke was just trying to make Naruto fight with killing intent.
 

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Japanese Raw > Viz > *********** > MangaPanda. Why go with worse translation? I know why...Suausgay will look bad.

Don't be too sure. It's not "raw" it's a single internet member, TAKL, sharing his opinion of what the Japanese text is saying, while Ziz is a group of people who translate Japanese probably for a living. Both are>scan translations anyway.
 

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Don't be too sure. It's not "raw" it's a single internet member, TAKL, sharing his opinion of what the Japanese text is saying, while Ziz is a group of people who translate Japanese probably for a living. Both are>scan translations anyway.
takL is a native-Japanese and had translated many raws in NF. He never once was wrong from my experience in NF. So I'll go with him.
 

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@Bold i have to disagree Naruto was not stronger. they was equal that whole time. Naruto was holding back and Sasuke was just trying to make Naruto fight with killing intent.

Naruto had attacks that canonically could have destroyed PS (TBBRS). On top of which, his Kurama Avatar equaled Sasuke's susanoo, and he could have used shadow clones from the start and destroyed PS. That, and he was low on chakra. This is probably due to being the primary fighter against Kaguya. So yes, up until Sasuke absorbed biju chakra, Naruto was the stronger of the 2.
 

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No, he compared his usage of Bijuu Chakra to Hagoromo. Sasuke still can't use the full power of Rinnegan.
So u r saying Sasuke could do it without his rinnegan?:|

Even if he hasn't displayed full usage he can still accel in certain aspects of the power of the rinnegan. :|
 
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The degree of Rikudou Senjutsu he gained is nothing compared to Madara's or Naruto's. Otherwise, he would gain a cloak like them and other traits of Senjutsu.
Thats just excuses. Cloak is all nice but he got enhancement all the same, both eyes and body and even TSB, lets not forget he was at near death state too and had little chakra.

Sasuke being able to sense nature energy speaks volumes now you cant explain it in any other way but him having senjutsu.
 

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It's still a ridiculously impressive feat. For Sasuke's usage of using the rinnegan's power to be on the same level of Hagoromo at any time is an incredible to his power, and to Naruto, who, until Sasuke absorbed the bijus, was stronger.


However, the second statement is false as Kaguya was stronger, and they certainly comprehended her.
yeah It is hella impressive,

Well I used hyperbole but still it would be wide gap between them.

That's mangapanda. U can see the label in the scan
^^ damn, I didn't notice that ;/, sorry for that
 
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