Sensing Amaterasu does not save FTG users

[Lightbringer]

Obito said he planned every move of the battle.
It's also reasonable to think he knew of orochimarus jutsu since he knows of him and even planned for the hydra to take place after weakening sasukes reserves with Amaterasu.

Surely you didn't think he was just firing Amaterasu after his precious little brother?

Because he miraculously knew that Sasuke absorbed Orochimaru and gained his Snake abilities.

Only Kabuto and Sasuke knew that. Not even Zetsu knew.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Because he miraculously knew that Sasuke absorbed Orochimaru and gained his Snake abilities.

Only Kabuto and Sasuke knew that. Not even Zetsu knew.

But he was specifically said to have waited until orochimaru resurfaced.
He even said "so it finally emerges"

He had plenty of Intel on orochimaru and his abilities.
He even had Intel on edo tensei when he was revived.

I think you might be underestimating itachis intelligence.

 

[Lightbringer]

But he was specifically said to have waited until orochimaru resurfaced.
He even said "so it finally emerges"

He had plenty of Intel on orochimaru and his abilities.
He even had Intel on edo tensei when he was revived.

I think you might be underestimating itachis intelligence.

That's because he knew he had a cursemark which enabled Orochimaru to take control.

Cursemark doesn't give you Orochmaru's abilities though.

 

[BlazeRelease]

That's because he knew he had a cursemark which enabled Orochimaru to take control.

Cursemark doesn't give you Orochmaru's abilities though.

He also was aware of the fact he absorbed orochimaru, which is evident because he was waiting on him to appear after he weakened sasuke so he could remove him.

Also he knew that after absorbing orochimarus chakra that kabuto possessed some of his abilities before he even used them.

 

[Gold Lightning]

He never was targeted by amaterasu

And that proves that Ay's raiton reactions are really good not that minato can dodge it because he once reacted to Ay from mile away.

Yet Cee said that Ay's reflexes/reactions are comparable to Minatos

What, you mean teleport without taking the flames with him?
No, because he specifically noted things he's touching are teleported with him, like the onmyoudon was in the recent anime episode.

Space time users>Amaterasu

The flames are clearly touching his body, yet he teleported out of it before any damage become of his body. And we know there was no damage because there was no regenerating of Minatos body

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[Lightbringer]

He also was aware of the fact he absorbed orochimaru, which is evident because he was waiting on him to appear after he weakened sasuke so he could remove him.

Also he knew that after absorbing orochimarus chakra that kabuto possessed some of his abilities before he even used them.

Well I guess he must have visited a fortune teller to figure that one out, because there was absolutely no way for him to get that intel.

Kabuto inserted Orochimaru DNA into himself. Itachi had no way of knowing that Sasuke absorbed Orochimaru is some astral dimension and that his soul was now trapped inside of Sasuke.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Yet Cee said that Ay's reflexes are comparable to Minatos

Space time users>Amaterasu

The flames are clearly touching his body, yet he teleported out of it before any damage become of his body. And we know there was no damage because there was no regenerating of Minatos body

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1. The flames were confined to a uniform shape using enton so they wouldn't spread yet, otherwise naruto would be on Fire.

2. If I remember correctly they utilized a clone for that, I may be wrong.

But either way the attack was prepared with the safety of his teammates in mind, because naruto wasn't burned by it, so the flames were temporarily confined to the jutsu.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Well I guess he mussed have visited a fortune teller to figure that one out, because there was absolutely no way for him to get that intel.

Kabuto inserted Orochimaru DNA into himself. Itachi had no way of knowing that Sasuke absorbed Orochimaru is some astral dimension and that his soul was now trapped inside of Sasuke.

I mean I agree with you, I don't know how itachi knew any of that either, but he did and that's why he did what he did.

 

[Lightbringer]

I mean I agree with you, I don't know how itachi knew any of that either, but he did and that's why he did what he did.

Or maybe he would have just extinguished Amaterasu like he did when he finally hit Sasuke. So even if he didn't substitute, he'd be unharmed.

So I don't think he was going easy on him there.

 

[AlphaScythian]

So considering that you're obviously not changing your opinion on the matter, let's just recollect the evidence.

Amaterasu has been dodged before

FTG is instantaneous, meaning he could do what Aye did but even faster.

Minato's reflexes are equal if not better than Aye.

Is that your failed counter? I guess you're the one not changing opinion.

Amaterasu that been dodged before is Only that of Ay which has happened due to degraded vision of susuke as i proved with the scan where he couldnt even grab a cup, otherwise ama spawn always on target, which clearly wasnt the case with Ay, was it?



Amaetasu is instantaneous too and i take it you didnt even read the thread as i mentioned that FTG isnt so instantaneous if clones do it slower. It could do what Ay did if Ama would spawn off place due to bad sight and minato actually having proved better reactions.

Nothing suggest minato's reflexes are better then Ay's, he had comfortable distance to use FTG in time, he can only prove to have better reflexes by being in same or similar situation.

Yet Cee said that Ay's reflexes/reactions are comparable to Minatos

Space time users>Amaterasu

The flames are clearly touching his body, yet he teleported out of it before any damage become of his body. And we know there was no damage because there was no regenerating of Minatos body

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Like What does Cee know, he faced minato or what?

Enton FRS is composed of rasengan in core and enton as blades.
The enton blades are taken back due to motion and minato is getting hit by rasengan core only.
Minato had and still has his arms open appearing to touch the flames due to being in front plane.

 

[TrollingSage]

What, you mean teleport without taking the flames with him?
No, because he specifically noted things he's touching are teleported with him, like the onmyoudon was in the recent anime episode.

He teleported out of Obito's chains, they were clearly touching him. He teleported with the omyoudon because he wasn't aware of it and Obito placed where his hand was supposed to be

 

[Lightbringer]

Is that your failed counter? I guess you're the one not changing opinion.

Amaterasu that been dodged before is Only that of Ay which has happened due to degraded vision of susuke as i proved with the scan where he couldnt even grab a cup, otherwise ama spawn always on target, which clearly wasnt the case with Ay, was it?



Amaetasu is instantaneous too and i take it you didnt even read the thread as i mentioned that FTG isnt so instantaneous if clones do it slower. It could do what Ay did if Ama would spawn off place due to bad sight and minato actually having proved better reactions.

Nothing suggest minato's reflexes are better then Ay's, he had comfortable distance to use FTG in time, he can only prove to have better reflexes by being in same or similar situation.

You're making stuff up and the manga clearly shows differently.

If Amaterasu was instantaneous Aye wouldn't have been able to dodge it.

The manga showed that it was beginning to form on Aye's location, but before it could finish, Aye moved out of the way at high speed.

Game over man, gg, /thread.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Or maybe he would have just extinguished Amaterasu like he did when he finally hit Sasuke. So even if he didn't substitute, he'd be unharmed.

So I don't think he was going easy on him there.

That would be reasonable EXCEPT that he was specifically said to have done that to weaken him enough by forcing the substitution so he could remove orochimaru.

Also obito said that if itachi wanted him dead in that fight, it WOULD have happened.

 

[BlazeRelease]

He teleported out of Obito's chains, they were clearly touching him. He teleported with the omyoudon because he wasn't aware of it and Obito placed where his hand was supposed to be

You may have a point there.

But Amaterasu is clearly different from chains, but we will never know.

 

[Gold Lightning]

1. The flames were confined to a uniform shape using enton so they wouldn't spread yet, otherwise naruto would be on Fire.

2. If I remember correctly they utilized a clone for that, I may be wrong.

But either way the attack was prepared with the safety of his teammates in mind, because naruto wasn't burned by it, so the flames were temporarily confined to the jutsu.

It was not a clone U_U

And your bs about it being confined to a uniform shape is ridiculous. The flames touched Minatos body, FULL STOP, you can't argue against that. The reason it didn't burn Naruto is because his hand wasn't physically touching the rasengan, the rasengan always levitates above the users palm, so no contact was made. And also because Naruto and Sasuke perfectly combine their techniques to the perfect chakra ratio so at it mixes well and doesn't go out of control.

In fact the flames were made stronger due to merging with Narutos wind, it hit minato, but he teleported out of it quickly before it could do any damage.

I'm not sure what's up with your eyes, a 5 year old can see that the flames are touching his body.

 

[AllHailKurama]

Considering that Sasuke, someone who has only decent speed, constantly dodge Itachi's Amaterasu with just the curse mark transformation shows that this thread is wrong. Anyone with speed and reaction time can dodge Amaterasu. Moving on.

 

[Lightbringer]

That would be reasonable EXCEPT that he was specifically said to have done that to weaken him enough by forcing the substitution so he could remove orochimaru.

Also obito said that if itachi wanted him dead in that fight, it WOULD have happened.

Well Amaterasu death can be prevented by extinguishing the flames. So I think Itachi didn't have to worry about hitting Sasuke with it.....unlike being hit with Totsuka.

 

[BlazeRelease]

It was not a clone U_U

And your bs about it being confined to a uniform shape is ridiculous. The flames touched Minatos body, FULL STOP, you can't argue against that. The reason it didn't burn Naruto is because his hand wasn't physically touching the rasengan, the rasengan always levitates above the users palm, so no contact was made. And also because Naruto and Sasuke perfectly combine their techniques to the perfect chakra ratio so at it mixes well and doesn't go out of control.

In fact the flames were made stronger due to merging with Narutos wind, it hit minato, but he teleported out of it quickly before it could do any damage.

I'm not sure what's up with your eyes, a 5 year old can see that the flames are touching his body.

I never said they didn't touch his body genius. I said they were confined, meaning he was preventing them from spreading, so as not to hurt naruto until the attack was finished.

And of I'm aware that rasengan levitates slightly above your hand but there is no way that the way that flame attack was angled and flaring around that it didn't touch narutos hand at least once.

And it's not bs to think he can confine his form like that because he has even made a handheld enton blade before that didn't burn his hand. Obviously he can control whether or not it can burn something.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

FTG doesn't save them, moving to the left or right does.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Well Amaterasu death can be prevented by extinguishing the flames. So I think Itachi didn't have to worry about hitting Sasuke with it.....unlike being hit with Totsuka.

But weakening him with damage won't cause him to run out of chakra.
He had to make it possible for orochimaru to break out by making him use the chakra used to oppress orochimaru.