Minato vs Tobirama *No FTG*

[RicardoA]

Minato wins, high-diff.
Once he goes SM, the 'stalemate' gets broken.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Tobirama Merks dudes no summonings Edos ftg lol

 

[Great Master Minato]

Many People Talk Like Tobirama Can React To Minato While Minato Can't & This Is The Definition Of BS U_U
Minato Can Enter SM Almost Instantly...However He Can Maintain It For One Attack...Even Though SM Minato >> Tobirama In Reaction,Sensing,Striking Speed & Every Thing...So If Tobirama Dare To Attack,Minato Will Blow Him Up With A Senpou Rasengan & If Tobirama Stays Back Minato Will Blitz Him...He Ain't Gonna Catch SM Minato...

 

[Haizaki]

Didn't Minato say it takes a while to enter SM? and considering you have to be in one place, I doubt Tobirama would let him.

 

[makosheva7]

Didn't Minato say it takes a while to enter SM? and considering you have to be in one place, I doubt Tobirama would let him.

True.... Minato could theoretically use clone feints to prep for SM, but as you said Tobirama would lay on the pressure. So it must be Tobirama high diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Many People Talk Like Tobirama Can React To Minato While Minato Can't & This Is The Definition Of BS U_U
Minato Can Enter SM Almost Instantly...However He Can Maintain It For One Attack...Even Though SM Minato >> Tobirama In Reaction,Sensing,Striking Speed & Every Thing...So If Tobirama Dare To Attack,Minato Will Blow Him Up With A Senpou Rasengan & If Tobirama Stays Back Minato Will Blitz Him...He Ain't Gonna Catch SM Minato...

Minato already stated it takes long for him to gather the chakra. So no, he can't enter it instantly. And he isn't going to stand still without getting killed by Tobirama first, so no, this is never happening.

Even if he got into Sage Mode. Minato blitzing Tobirama is a joke when not even Juubito, someone leagues above Minato in Shunshin speed, couldn't blitz Tobirama with no reaction.

 

[Bantos]

Oh God. Tobirama shitstomps this.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Minato already stated it takes long for him to gather the chakra. So no, he can't enter it instantly. And he isn't going to stand still without getting killed by Tobirama first, so no, this is never happening.

Even if he got into Sage Mode. Minato blitzing Tobirama is a joke when not even Juubito, someone leagues above Minato in Shunshin speed, couldn't blitz Tobirama with no reaction.

Minato Never Stood Still In Order To Enter SM During The Fight With Juubi Jin Madara...

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato Never Stood Still In Order To Enter SM During The Fight With Juubi Jin Madara...

Um, yes, he did. He was still for the whole conversion between Obito and Madara before he entered Sage Mode. Not to mention it was stated that you need to be still to gather Nature Energy.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Um, yes, he did. He was still for the whole conversion between Obito and Madara before he entered Sage Mode. Not to mention it was stated that you need to be still to gather Nature Energy.

But He Didn't Sit There Without Any Movement...

Aside From That...Do You Think That Minato Can't React To Tobirama's Strike While Tobirama Can?

 

[KidGamer65]

But He Didn't Sit There Without Any Movement...

He stood still, and didn't move.

Aside From That...Do You Think That Minato Can't React To Tobirama's Strike While Tobirama Can?

They can react to each other's attacks. Though the one who strikes faster is the most likely to land the first blow in CQC, and the one who has the better reactions is the one who will be harder to hit. Both go to Tobirama, so Minato stands no chance if it becomes close combat.

 

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama takes it.

- more experienced

- More skilled

- HAs training in all aspects of shinobi, due to being the senju clan.

- has more chakra

Minato's shunshin isn't soloing any top teir character...

 

[Great Master Minato]

He stood still, and didn't move.

They can react to each other's attacks. Though the one who strikes faster is the most likely to land the first blow in CQC, and the one who has the better reactions is the one who will be harder to hit. Both go to Tobirama, so Minato stands no chance if it becomes close combat.

Ok...But You Can't Prove That Minato Couldn't Pull Off Those Feats That Tobirama Did...Cause Minato Always Faced The Superior Opponent Both In Power & Speed...
V1 Juubito (Mindless) << V2 Juubito...
SM Madara <<<<< Juubi Jin Madara...
& The Fact That "Minato Was Able To Outstrip Might Guy In Sheer Speed Despite Guy Opening Up All Eight Gates" As Noted In Naruto Wikia & We All Saw It In The Manga...You Can't Prove Guy Wasn't At Full Speed Even Minato Himself Told Him To Go On No Matter What...

 

[LuckyMan]

There is literally nothing to suggest Tobirama as better reaction speeds than Minato.

Minato could also mark a mindless Jubito at the expense of getting torn in half too so I don't know how people think that means he has better reactions. He merely took advantage of being ET.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok...But You Can't Prove That Minato Couldn't Pull Off Those Feats That Tobirama Did...Cause Minato Always Faced The Superior Opponent Both Is Power & Speed...
V1 Juubito (Mindless) < V2 Juubito...
SM Madara <<<<< Juubi Jin Madara...
& The Fact That "Minato Was Able To Outstrip Might Guy In Sheer Speed Despite Guy Opening Up All Eight Gates" As Noted In Naruto Wikia & We All Saw It In The Manga...You Can't Prove Guy Wasn't At Full Speed Hence Minato Told Him To Go On No Matter What...

I don't need to prove a negative. Minato hasn't shown any feat that puts him above Tobirama in those departments, so he isn't above him. That simple. Minato facing superior opponents means nothing when his feats against them were garbage.

-V2 Juubito is overall stronger than V1 Juubito because he's in control, but there is zero evidence that V2 is faster than V1. Not to mention Minato never reacted to V2 Juubito's Shunshin speed, and got his arm cut off the one time he clashed with Juubito. Not a good way to begin proving your point.

-He engaged JJ Madara, and lost his arm. Like I said, this isn't even beginning to prove your point. Minato getting trashed by faster opponents doesn't make him faster than Tobirama.

Unless you think Gaara's sand can keep up with Gai's top speed, then Gai wasn't at top speed. That simple.

 

[Great Master Minato]

There is literally nothing to suggest Tobirama as better reaction speeds than Minato.

Minato could also mark a mindless Jubito at the expense of getting torn in half too so I don't know how people think that means he has better reactions. He merely took advantage of being ET.

Thank God...Finally Someone Stated The Obvious...I Would +Rep You If I Could...

 

[KidGamer65]

There is literally nothing to suggest Tobirama as better reaction speeds than Minato.

Minato could also mark a mindless Jubito at the expense of getting torn in half too so I don't know how people think that means he has better reactions. He merely took advantage of being ET.

Tobirama tagged Juubito 5 times BEFORE he lost his body. Minato has no reaction feat on par with reacting to a Juubi Jins Shunshin. Here is what you and everyone else who uses the ET excuse needs to understand. Whether or not he lost his body is irrelevant. We've seen that his reflexes act fast enough and he moves his hands fast enough to react to and tag a Juubi Jin before getting hit.

Your word isn't cutting it. Minato has no feat that compares.

 

[Valhorus]

I like how everyone ignore the facts . Mindless Juubito is way weaker in all depertaments than Juubito in control , yet saying Gai wasn''t at full speed to downgrade Minato feat . I can say Mindless Juubito wasn''t on full speed too that is why Tobirama marked him , and that slower Mindless Juubito was able to slash him in half . You have nothing that suggests he touched Juubito 5 times . He could just threw those explosive tags in the air and the with the speed of Juubito they just placed on his body.

You know what , nothing will change your point , saying Gai wasn''t on full speed , then I will keep saying Mindless Juubito was way slower than Juubito in control and that game isn''t going to end .

 

[KidGamer65]

I like how everyone ignore the facts . Mindless Juubito is way weaker in all depertaments than Juubito in control

Still waiting for you or anyone else to prove that Mindless Juubito is any slower than Juubito in control.

yet saying Gai wasn''t at full speed to downgrade Minato feat .

With sound proof backing it.

I can say Mindless Juubito wasn''t on full speed too that is why Tobirama marked him ,

Except that'd be baseless.

and that slower Mindless Juubito was able to slash him in half .

Except there is no proof from your side that he's slower.

You have nothing that suggests he touched Juubito 5 times .

Juubito had 1 Hiraishin mark and 4 explosive tags.

He could just threw those explosive tags in the air and the with the speed of Juubito they just placed on his body.

Explosive tags aren't going to stick to his body unless Tobirama puts them there. Running past the tags isn't going to cause them to stick to his body.

 

[Benjamin King]

Without FTG, Minato's chances of landing a hit on Tobirama are zero. The latter reacted and tagged Juubito 5 times, whereas Minato had his arm cut off in process. And Tobirama, once again, replicated the feat against Madara, reacting to him. [

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] Minato, once again, had his arm cut off. It's pretty clear Tobirama has the better reaction time, reflexes and attack speed than Minato.

It comes down to who will last longer, and Tobirama will.​