Sasuke DID awaken rinnegan

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Seems like you agree with me. Let me close it by saying. They gave sasuke the chakra/cell, and sasuke use it to awaken his own rinnegan

The term ''awaken'' isn't applicable. His Rinnegan has tomoes on them, which suggests Hagoromo had doing in it.​
 

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Indra got the Sage's eyes and was gifted with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (Yin) and Ashura got the Sage body and was gifted with lifeforce and physical energy (Yang) . Hagaromo made Sasuke like Indra with his Yin chakra and Naruto like Ashura with his Yang. Yin= eyes yang= body when it comes to Indra reincarnations and Ashura reincarnations. Madara was said to be born with very powerful chakra even among the Uchihas and Sasuke's chakra was compared to Madara's by Kurama and Madara mentions how Sasuke have straight comas like him more than once. No other way for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan but Hagaromo as Hagaromo already said Madara only got the Rinnegan because he got a Hashirama's cells before the transmigration was over and it's currently Naruto who is Ashura's reincarnation.

Manga shows yin is a moon sign and yang is the sun sign. And together they form powerful seal. Manga also shows they gives power boost . But it never notes yang is body, yin is rinnegan, nor indra has yin power power ashura has yang power
 

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Hagoromo defined the emergence of Rinnegan... There should be no discussion here...


And even if we assume he got it himself, then Hago only added some tomoes to his dojutsu while giving Naruto his Senjutsu... That isn't equal or even proper distribution... And only 1 Rinnegan doesn't quite fit your theory...
 

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The term ''awaken'' isn't applicable. His Rinnegan has tomoes on them, which suggests Hagoromo had doing in it.​

If hagoromo actively gave sasuke eye, then he should at least has the same eye. Just like we won't say itachi gave sasuke rinnegan even its itachi's eyes because itachi never had rinnegan in the first place
 

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If hagoromo actively gave sasuke eye, then he should at least has the same eye. Just like we won't say itachi gave sasuke rinnegan even its itachi's eyes because itachi never had rinnegan in the first place

Except Itachi's eyes are merged with Sasuke's eyes that forms EMS. So, Sasuke's eye merged with Hagoromo's Chakra lead to awaken Rinnegan with tomoes.​
 

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Let's just think he got it from the sage cause how could we know if he truly achieved it like that its not confirmed
 

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Manga shows yin is a moon sign and yang is the sun sign. And together they form powerful seal. Manga also shows they gives power boost . But it never notes yang is body, yin is rinnegan, nor indra has yin power power ashura has yang power

Manga shows Yin is spiritual energy and Yang is physical energy as Obito talks about Izanagi using both to Konan . Now adding that to Obito saying Indra got the Sage's eyes which gifted him with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (yin) and Ashura getting the Sage's body which gifted him lifeforce and physical energy (yang); we can then see that Yin chakra goes with the Sage's eyes which are gifted in casting genjutsu which is formed by the imagination of the caster. The Sage gave Naruto and Sasuke half of his power so Sasuke gained the Sage's eye while Naruto gain the Senjutsu which enhances the body; Madara mentions who he got both of them .

We already know Madara got the eyes by getting the cells of Ashura's reincarnation during the transmigration and if It was possible to get the Rinnegan after the transmigration then why didn't Obito get the Rinnegan after 20 or so years or when he was close to death? He had both Uchiha and Senju DNA, unless of course you need both Indra's and Ashura's chakra. Hashirama lost that chakra after dying like 100 years ago.
 

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See when Madara said uchiha+senju DNA gives you the rinnegan, he didn't know that it was the chakra in the DNA.

Just by syncing to Gedo mazou or Juubi you can get Hagormoo's chakra directly without all the mixing of chakra.

Sasuke awakened the rinnegan from Hashirama's cells that was being pumped inside his chest from DSM Kabuto.

Hashirama can't transfer a piece of his tissue/flesh by just a Justu.
 

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I agree that sasuke awakened the rinnegan because of kabuto
If you read the viz translation it said much-tinkered hashi cells which is why I think it's in one eye and has tomoes
 

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I agree that sasuke awakened the rinnegan because of kabuto
If you read the viz translation it said much-tinkered hashi cells which is why I think it's in one eye and has tomoes

And chapters later Hagaromo said Madara gain the Rinnegan because he took Hashirama's cell before the transmigration was over so Sasuke getting it like 100 years later wouldn't do anything since he and Naruto are the current transmigration. Had Sasuke gotten Ashura's chakra he would have both regular Rinnegans as Madara did. Kabuto and Orochimaru didn't know about needing Ashura and Indra chakra for the Rinnegan, even Madara didn't know this, he only thought it was Senju and Uchiha DNA which is false as Obito had both and never awakened and Danzo had both as well and nothing happened. The Sage's words over rule Madara's who learned everything from the tablet that BZ tampered with.

Yeah, Sasuke's powers are his own unlike Kuramato

Funny, Sasuke got the most powerups yet you say he use his own power? Itachi's eyes aren't Sasuke's and neither is the Rinnegan that Hagaromo awakened by your logic. Power is power, both have it and that's that.
 

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And chapters later Hagaromo said Madara gain the Rinnegan because he took Hashirama's cell before the transmigration was over so Sasuke getting it like 100 years later wouldn't do anything since he and Naruto are the current transmigration. Had Sasuke gotten Ashura's chakra he would have both regular Rinnegans as Madara did. Kabuto and Orochimaru didn't know about needing Ashura and Indra chakra for the Rinnegan, even Madara didn't know this, he only thought it was Senju and Uchiha DNA which is false as Obito had both and never awakened and Danzo had both as well and nothing happened. The Sage's words over rule Madara's who learned everything from the tablet that BZ tampered with.



Funny, Sasuke got the most powerups yet you say he use his own power? Itachi's eyes aren't Sasuke's and neither is the Rinnegan that Hagaromo awakened by your logic. Power is power, both have it and that's that.

The eyes were itachi, but the ems power is sasuke obviously. Sasuke awoken rinnegan, so6p didn't awoken rinnegan for sasuke
 

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The eyes were itachi, but the ems power is sasuke obviously. Sasuke awoken rinnegan, so6p didn't awoken rinnegan for sasuke

The Sage's Yin chakra allowed Sasuke to get Rinnegan and that's what most of is are saying, unless you can show me where Sasuke got Naruto's DNA, Hagaromo's power awakened it. EMS is the mix power of Itachi and Sasuke's MS's and Sasuke is the one who uses it. Could Sasuke have awakened EMS without Itachi's or any other eyes? No he cannot. That's like me saying KM/BM was awakened by Naruto when it's Kurama's power that allow Naruto to have those modes. Hagaromo already said Madara got his Rinnegan before the transmigration was over, implying he couldn't have afterwards. He goes on to say Ashura chakra is in Naruto' not in Hashirama so Sasuke need Naruto's DNA to awaken the Rinnegan and he would of have 2 Rinnegans if he got it that way. Yin=Eyes as I already explained with scans of Obito saying what Yin is and Obito saying what Indra got from having the Sage's eyes.
 

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The Sage's Yin chakra allowed Sasuke to get Rinnegan and that's what most of is are saying, unless you can show me where Sasuke got Naruto's DNA, Hagaromo's power awakened it. EMS is the mix power of Itachi and Sasuke's MS's and Sasuke is the one who uses it. Could Sasuke have awakened EMS without Itachi's or any other eyes? No he cannot. That's like me saying KM/BM was awakened by Naruto when it's Kurama's power that allow Naruto to have those modes. Hagaromo already said Madara got his Rinnegan before the transmigration was over, implying he couldn't have afterwards. He goes on to say Ashura chakra is in Naruto' not in Hashirama so Sasuke need Naruto's DNA to awaken the Rinnegan and he would of have 2 Rinnegans if he got it that way. Yin=Eyes as I already explained with scans of Obito saying what Yin is and Obito saying what Indra got from having the Sage's eyes.

It says madara awoken rinnegan before his transmigration was over. In another word, madara awoken rinnegan before he died. The implying is your misunderstanding of the statement. That means hashi cell is the same as always and as potent as before. Manga never stated yin=eyes, that's merely how some people suggested
 

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It says madara awoken rinnegan before his transmigration was over. In another word, madara awoken rinnegan before he died. The implying is your misunderstanding of the statement. That means hashi cell is the same as always and as potent as before. Manga never stated yin=eyes, that's merely how some people suggested

So you're saying cells from a dead bidy is as potent as if they were alive? Why would Hagaromo mean before Madara died when it shows young Madara as he said Madara created a problem? Madara out lived Hashirama so that means he had to get the DNAS when Hashirama was alive and still had Ashura's chakra in him. Had Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan with Ashura's chakra he would have both regular Rinnegans like Madara.

Manga said Indra got the Sage's eyes which gifted him with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (Yin). Also if Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan then why can't he deactivate it? Or lower it to lower form like EMS or 3 Tomoes? Madara who did have Ashura's chakra was capable of changing his Rinnegan to EMS and 3 tomoes yet Sasuke can't as he turned his EMS back to 3 tomoes and not his Rinnegan. He even had to close his eyes for a whole chapter and some of the beginning of the next chapter like Kakashi had too with his MS. So with that said it's easily to see Sasuke does not have Ashura's chakra.
 

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So you're saying cells from a dead bidy is as potent as if they were alive? Why would Hagaromo mean before Madara died when it shows young Madara as he said Madara created a problem? Madara out lived Hashirama so that means he had to get the DNAS when Hashirama was alive and still had Ashura's chakra in him. Had Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan with Ashura's chakra he would have both regular Rinnegans like Madara.

Manga said Indra got the Sage's eyes which gifted him with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (Yin). Also if Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan then why can't he deactivate it? Or lower it to lower form like EMS or 3 Tomoes? Madara who did have Ashura's chakra was capable of changing his Rinnegan to EMS and 3 tomoes yet Sasuke can't as he turned his EMS back to 3 tomoes and not his Rinnegan. He even had to close his eyes for a whole chapter and some of the beginning of the next chapter like Kakashi had too with his MS. So with that said it's easily to see Sasuke does not have Ashura's chakra.

Hashi's dead cell is deadly to whoever implant it into one's body and can create a massive forest neg diff in a second, that is very potent. Madara created a problem, because so6p doesn't want him to get rinnegan. When madara finally awaken rinnegan, so6p consider that's a big problem

If so6p gives sasuke his chakra/eye, sasuke could have two rinnegans as well, so one eye sasuke doesn't prove anything.

Indra's doesn't have sasuke's yin power because sage himself said he didn't give indra anything, and tried to change the cause by giving sasuke something, only to says sasuke is still a failed experiment like indra even after he spoodfed him yin power(he neglected indra before)

Well we never seen madara nor nagato nor so6p nor kaguya switched rinnegan back to normal eyes

Why he closed his eyes?? It's the same as part 1 itachi has to rest years after one amaterasu shot
 
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