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Hey guys I only read the episodes and manga but I didn't watch any movie .. should I ? are they canon ?
[Question] Are One piece movies canon?
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Agreed. Both of those were really good, imo. xd
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Strong World and Film Z are really good. Haven't seen the others. None of them are canon though, especially Film Z.
Strong world and Z are canon because Oda written and supervised those. So don't listen to the people who don't know anything about it. If it sounds like a duck and it smells like a duck and it tastes like duck it's most likely a duck.
Same goes for One Piece, if it's written by the same guy from the manga and overseen by the same guy from the manga it's most likely the exact same thing as the manga.
Movies 1-8 are non-canon but some of them are remastered arcs.
Same goes for One Piece, if it's written by the same guy from the manga and overseen by the same guy from the manga it's most likely the exact same thing as the manga.
Movies 1-8 are non-canon but some of them are remastered arcs.
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Don't let Love Cook mislead you. In order for something to be canon, it has to:
1. Either be presented in the main story(manga) or stated/confirmed by Oda(Such as interviews and SBS.)
2. Fit into the story
Film Z hardly fits into the first category, but doesn't fit into the second category at all, and here's why. Film Z is supposed to be set in between the arcs Fishman Island and Punk Hazard, with it going Fishman Island>Film Z>Punk Hazard.
The problem with this, however, is that Film Z cannot fit into the manga.
Spoilers potentially below for those who haven't caught up to at least Punk Hazard of the One Piece series.
Here we see the Strawhats capture a giant eel-like fish while still underwater and leaving Fishman Island.
When they left the ocean and got back to the surface, the fish is still attached to their ship.
While they were traveling here, they still have the fist attached, and it was fried by the hot water
In the very next page, the Den Den Mushi rings, which is a call from Kinemon on Punk Hazard.
Immediately after Kinemon hangs up, they agree to go to Punk Hazard to rescue their anonymous caller. Film Z cannot take place during the time they spent between Fishman Island and getting the call because the fish is present up until they get the call, but is seen nowhere in Film Z. Love Cook or some other wrong person may try to argue that Film Z takes place during the time after this call they spent to get to Punk Hazard, except Film Z is a few days long, and Punk Hazard is located right next to them when they got the call.
Since they meet Law during Punk Hazard, and he is on their ship afterwards and they go right to Dressrosa, the lack of Law's presence during Film Z means it could not have taken place after Punk Hazard, and before they got to Dressrosa.
Add in that in Film Z, they are in a completely different part of the sea, are wearing different outfits and the fact that Film Z spans several days and locations while they went straight from Fishman Island to Punk Hazard in the manga, it all adds up to Film Z being non-canon, as it's impossible for Film Z to fit into the story in any way.
The anime adaptation's filler arc also doesn't count. For one, it's filler, so it holds no weight, and the manga takes precedence over the anime. All in all, Film Z isn't canon.
1. Either be presented in the main story(manga) or stated/confirmed by Oda(Such as interviews and SBS.)
2. Fit into the story
Film Z hardly fits into the first category, but doesn't fit into the second category at all, and here's why. Film Z is supposed to be set in between the arcs Fishman Island and Punk Hazard, with it going Fishman Island>Film Z>Punk Hazard.
The problem with this, however, is that Film Z cannot fit into the manga.
Spoilers potentially below for those who haven't caught up to at least Punk Hazard of the One Piece series.
Here we see the Strawhats capture a giant eel-like fish while still underwater and leaving Fishman Island.
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When they left the ocean and got back to the surface, the fish is still attached to their ship.
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While they were traveling here, they still have the fist attached, and it was fried by the hot water
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In the very next page, the Den Den Mushi rings, which is a call from Kinemon on Punk Hazard.
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Immediately after Kinemon hangs up, they agree to go to Punk Hazard to rescue their anonymous caller. Film Z cannot take place during the time they spent between Fishman Island and getting the call because the fish is present up until they get the call, but is seen nowhere in Film Z. Love Cook or some other wrong person may try to argue that Film Z takes place during the time after this call they spent to get to Punk Hazard, except Film Z is a few days long, and Punk Hazard is located right next to them when they got the call.
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Since they meet Law during Punk Hazard, and he is on their ship afterwards and they go right to Dressrosa, the lack of Law's presence during Film Z means it could not have taken place after Punk Hazard, and before they got to Dressrosa.
Add in that in Film Z, they are in a completely different part of the sea, are wearing different outfits and the fact that Film Z spans several days and locations while they went straight from Fishman Island to Punk Hazard in the manga, it all adds up to Film Z being non-canon, as it's impossible for Film Z to fit into the story in any way.
The anime adaptation's filler arc also doesn't count. For one, it's filler, so it holds no weight, and the manga takes precedence over the anime. All in all, Film Z isn't canon.
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Bullshit? I dunno man, I don't think a guy who used to filler to determine something was canon and is now calling the manga bullshit should even be posting here. Movie fits nowhere into the main story, end of story.
It's either non-canon, or a giant plot-hole. I think it's safe to say many, including Oda, will go with the former over the latter, but hey, a fool is born every day as they say.
Yeah what a sad day that was for all of us. If only your dad bought a rubber.
Oda makes the manga and oda made the anime, what's the f'ing difference oh big and holy genius, please educate us with your infinite manga wisdom, why your autistic view doesn't allow a movie and a manga to co-exist besides each other.
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Oda doesn't make the anime, Toei adapts his manga into an anime.
One Piece manga is to Batman: Death in the Family/Under the Red Hood as One Piece anime/Film Z is to Under the Red Hood animated movie. The formers are the main canon story, and the latter are non-canon adaptations.
The movies and manga can co-exist besides each other, as in, this is one thing, and this is the other. The difference is, one of these things is the canon main story, and the other isn't.
Film Z is either a plot-hole, or non-canon. If you pick the poisonous former over the reasonable and manga-proven latter just because you are too proud to admit you were wrong and want to continue disagreeing with the manga, then go ahead, you just look foolish.
There is no infinite manga wisdom here. Why don't you point out to me, using the manga, where Film Z can take place?
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No one is talking about the anime here, you're off your rocker again.
What is the difference if Oda makes something in black and white or if he makes it in color ? Is it any less One Piece ?
He literally wrote Strong world and supervised Z.
I don't care where it takes place because I can live with the fact that the movie is not in the manga. Both are made by Oda. Just accept that you got got son.
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I never said they weren't both made by Oda. It doesn't matter if you care where it takes place, all that matters is that where it takes place is important. If you're going to ignore a significant part of what you should consider when determining if something is canon just because it goes against what you want to be true, then you're biased. At the end of the day, the manga and your bias make the true bullshit in this thread posts by Love Cook.
Yeah whatever helps you sleep at night.
Not denying it's made by Oda, but still it isn't canon. I guess manga Oda must be a different guy than movie Oda, and that the information he gives in the movies doesn't count in the manga.
Oh wait it does. Shiki, 7th shichibukai etc.
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Show me one manga scan indicating any of that is canon? Oh right, didn't think so.
Film Z isn't canon, end of story.
