Sandaime Raikage[EjBlack] vs. Jinchuriki Gaara[DrProof]

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So which Gaara is it?

War Arc Gaara w/ conditions of Shukaku inside him. I guess the condition is the mindset of Shukaku that helped him against Madara to support Gaara and his feats.
 

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War Arc Gaara w/ conditions of Shukaku inside him. I guess the condition is the mindset of Shukaku that helped him against Madara to support Gaara and his feats.

Basically Jin Gaara that fought Deidara with War Arc Gaara feats. and I'll be writing my OP now.
 

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Don't think I ditched the debate EJ. I'm writing my OP still.
 

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I'm almost done EJ.
 

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Wtf is this? How does the Raikage beat Gaara if he takes flight, and how does Gaara even scratch the Raikage?
o_O
 

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Gaara being the tactical, and analytic character he is, would come to a quick conclusion that as the Yondaime Raikage's Father, the Sandaime Raikage as well would possess extremely strong physical attributes; both strength, and speed. Noting this, Gaara would come up with a quick strategy to avoid serious physical contact with the Raikage, simultaneously turning the (centering around Gaara's current location) into (note this isn't detectable as it happens underground). The Strategy:

First here's the terrain:

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With the distance shown, and the side attractions we've basically got the whole map features figured out. Now to put the actual plan into place. Before the initial blitz begins (regarding the Raikage blitzing Gaara from the start), Gaara (as I noted earlier on will take heed of the Raikage physical attributes, and the fact that Raikages are Taijutsu-based fighters) would (having already broken down enough rocks, and minerals in the Kage Summit Bridge to produce a Wave of Sand).

Once Gaara's opponent's sight is completely blocked by the large tsunami of sand Gaara would simultaneously do 4 things:

I.
II.
III.
IIII. Leave a minute pile of sand in his previous location in an unnoticeable manor.

The clones, as well Gaara will represent letters: W, X, Y, & Z. The four Gaara's would then take to their positioning (with Gaara being Z). This formation is full-proof against Speedy Taijutsu-based opponents, due to:

A. The Distance has become farther than Long-Range (originally starting Mid-Range)
B. The number of targets has been tripled (4 targets) leaving the Sandaime Raikage at a 25% chance to strike the real Gaara.
C. 4 different directions to watch. Leaving Raikage on the defensive.

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This formation protects every angle, as well allows the Gaara to have a 360 degree field of vision, while covered in his hardened sphere of sand. At an unreachable distance within the air, the Gaara's would then begin the assaults upon the Sandaime Raikage in a simultaneous attack pattern:

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Clones W & Z will be assaulting the Sandaime Raikage via , while in sync with . Clones X & Y will be assaulting the Sandaime Raikage via multiple large scale techniques as well , with the addition of .

Cornering the Sandaime Raikage into the middle, in Unison all four would being the easiest to dodge for the Raikage, and the safest location out of the 5 (Midde, Up, Down, Left, & Right). The Raikage would choose this position to stay on the defensive. His downfall was assured once he stepped in the middle (the middle is centered around Gaara's previous location; before the battle started).


Back track:

"Simultaneously turning the (centering around Gaara's current location) into (note this isn't detectable as it happens underground)." "IIII. Leave a minute pile of sand in his previous location in an unnoticeable manor."

Back on track:

Gaara's Sand within the middle, and Raikage within that same spot (Gaara had turned the platform, and placed Sand in, the Raikage is stepping on) is . Simultaneously Gaara would (which only can be survived by Techniques similar to ), while being entrapped, all 4 Gaara's in perfect unison would unleash a Sea of Sand Waves upon the Sandaime Raikage flooding his body within an . Not stopping there, , would then would unleash his Tailed Beast's collaboration Technique, performing shape manipulation on the Ocean of Sand constructing it into a , then adding the finishing touches by .





















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Good introduction DrProof, there are couple things here and there but I won't go indepth into them until the debate is done (To see if Ej can counter/point them out or not on his own).
 

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Good introduction DrProof, there are couple things here and there but I won't go indepth into them until the debate is done (To see if Ej can counter/point them out or not on his own).

PM me what you think is wrong. So nothing of your opinion will be leaked, and possibly help EJ, and sabotage me. Pretty Curious as to what you say is wrong.
 

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PM me what you think is wrong. So nothing of your opinion will be leaked, and possibly help EJ, and sabotage me. Pretty Curious as to what you say is wrong.

I will just lay everything out at the end of the debate, after both you and Ej are finished the debate (Granted, if Ej does not mention the points himself, it won't affect the victor of the debate).
 

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I will just lay everything out at the end of the debate, after both you and Ej are finished the debate (Granted, if Ej does not mention the points himself, it won't affect the victor of the debate).

Alright. Even though there's no points to refute. :|
 

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The Third Raikage is a calm and seemingly level-headed person. And a man who would do anything for his village. He will take down down his enemies wither it will last until his dying breath (via lasting 3 days and nights of fighting). Raikage isn't quick to act much like his hot headed son. With that said he will analyze Gaara and make a rationale conclusion that Gaara is much like his father[ ], so he will expect overwhelming sand techs.

Gaara's Sand tech is no threat to the Raikage. Sorry to burst your bubble. With a man that was well known of his body like steel and blood like iron[ ] and being able to tank a devastating move like Rasenshirukin (both its cutting and explosive power), Gaara is basically fighting another Kimimaro by scenario. Or should I say a "super Kimimaro w/ super overwhelming speed lol". It was already canon that suppressing Raikage with sand will easily break out of it[ ]. Second, Gaara's sand speed still has trouble catching speed like characters proven when trying to capture Joki[ > ]. With Raikage Raiton armor he moves faster then Joki, fact. So I can pretty much argue of replicating the same feat he was dealing when facing Joki. As he is faster is very agile with good reflexes[ ].

Raikage's fighting style is straight forward. Juggernaut through everything and uses his speed/reflexes when the time comes. That is all thats needed when facing Gaara. Raikage pulls out any variant of Nukite and proceed to juggernaut and pierce through any sand thats in front of him. If a Mass Doton Wall +Yonton Elastic prioritizes couldn't stop him from continually tackle through so Sand is going to stop him but only minor slow him down. If by chance he still gets bury, will only simply walk out much like Kimmaro walking out of desert requiem[ > ]. Then proceed avoid what he failed the first time.

Catching Gaara with Nukite wouldn't be a problem because 1) Gaara always fights at the opponents level shown to the likes of even against Madara. 2.) Gaara using Sand base to capture Raikage can end up being a new platform to use[ / ].

In thee end, Gaara gets penetrated to death, as no shield is protecting him from Raikage's Nukite.

Your premise was very easy to counter as it as heavenly relied on Suna Bushin to further support Gaara. Unfortunate you premise holds no water to make that feat claim. Here is what Databook 1 says about Suna Bushin use:

Black: Copying the user's form, a sand puppet.

Quote: Changing into an incarnation, the killing intent destroys the enemy!!

Picture: As it gets a backfist, the head's form changes and attempts to grab
Sasuke, trapping him!!

The sand takes Gaara's shape, becomes a Bunshin and fights. The Suna Bunshin is
different from the other types of Bunshin in that the sand does not completely
assume the form of the user, but remains as sand the entire time. That is to
say, the Bunshin's form can be changed instantly into sand, and the enemy's body
can be trapped. Its many applications with long-range attacks can have it act as
a lure and a decoy. This is where it draws the line with other Bunshin.

Here it is bold and underlined. Kishimoto draw as a conclusion that Suna Bushin =/= Kage Bushin. Nor any other Bushin since every Bushin classes works differently in the Naruto verse.

So the claim of making 3-4 bushin is not supported. And the fact that a single bushin has the chakra to pull out these jutsu when it was strictly built for decoy/distractions. Thus I cant make a rebuttal to something that does not support the manga.

Now you might bring up arguments that this book is waaaaay outdated for me to use it to disprove you as this is shippuden now. Unfortunately for you the same description Kishimoto showed was demonstrated in the war arc too. TWICE: [ > ] [ ]. Thus invalid claim is invalid.

So fooling him once[ ] sure, next attempt gameover.

GG​
 
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Lmfao. Posting a counter after I finish my sandwhich.
 
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