Obito and his fears explained

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Today I will be proving that Obito was afraid of Itachi. Or at the very least Kishi did his best to portray it this way.
I'll be covering both the manga and RTN. RTN is not canon however it was written by Kishi and it is a very suggestive movie.
90% of you won't read this before posting. You can expect your posts/questions to be ignored and reported.:ilu:
The other 10% I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Itachi was the only thing keeping Obito from attacking in part one and in early part two.
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By his own admission Obito is admitting that he thought it possible that Itachi would have found a counter to Kamui had he known the truth. As far as we know the only counters to Kamui are genjutsu and what Kakashi did, there are some more that Itachi personally has but I won't elaborate for now. We'll focus on accessing the Kamui dimension and attacking from both sides. Real world and Kamui world.

Itachi is a master of genjutsu. However its doubtful that his genjutsu would be very effective against Obito. Obito has genjutsu feats himself. Controlling the Kyuubi is no joke and suggests a high level of genjustu skills. Higher than Itachi? No but high all the same.
Tsukyomi is likely not work either. After all the only things needed to defeat Tsukyomi by Itachi's own words is, the sharingan, and you need to be a powerful enough Uchiha. There is no doubt Obito is strong and imo he breaks Tsukyomi with mid difficulty.

This is from the RTN movie, written by Kishimoto.

First scene: Itachi shows up and immediately comes to the conclusion that physical attacks are useless. This is an interesting situation for a couple of reasons.

1. Why is it that Itachi is facing Obito and not Pain? As the leader of the Akatsuki he should be fighting Obito not Itachi. Kishimoto is clearly trying to make a point by doing this.

2. The situation is exactly what Obito was telling Sasuke about in the manga.
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Itachi is face to face with him and knows his secret. He knows that Obito is can't be touched.

Then Kishi makes Itachi say something interesting. After all things are looking pretty bad for Itachi right? He's facing someone who physical attacks are useless against.
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He says that he still has another way. Now obviously this is not canon. I'm not trying to imply in any way that it is. Canonically we don't have any confirmation if Itachi has jutsu that can actually affect a Kamui user while Kamui is engaged.

What happens next? Obito immediately leaves. And here is the thing. He doesn't leave the Alternate Reality and give up, he leaves Itachi. He waits for his chance after Itachi is no longer near Naruto and takes advantage of that moment.

Obito kamuing away from Itachi:
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Let me say it one more time. The movie is not canon. It is not canon. It does however stand to suggest with the way Kishi wrote it, shows Obito as afraid of Itachi. Lets recap what happened.

1. He had a chance to fight Itachi. Chose to flee instead.

2. Before leaving commented on how bothersome a guy Itachi is.

My last point. Does anyone else notice how Obito was the leader of the Akatsuki and yet no one knew but Pain, Itachi and Konan?

This is pretty odd. Why would Obito hide behind the shadows and let Pain lead? I think the answer is pretty clear. He wanted to keep as much distance from Itachi as possible. The problem was Itachi's brain. He didn't want Itachi to learn of his Kamui because he knew Itachi either would have a counter or would figure one out. The proof is Konan. He spent a lot of time with Konan and Pain, leading the Akatsuki from behind the scenes.

It left him vulnerable, and Konan figured out his Kamui. He underestimated her. But he did not underestimate Itachi. If he had came out as leader it would have brought him in close contact with Itachi. He would have been vulnerable then.


Also note that Pain was the "leader" So in RTN when Kishi had Itachi face Obito instead of Pain it means it was on purpose. He wanted to make a point. Kamui isn't unbeatable for Itachi. In fact Itachi canonically has 3 or 4 ways. And that Obito was afraid of Itachi.

Thanks for reading. Thoughtful responses are appreciated. If you disagree voice your opinion with a counter that isn't "No he wasn't!" because that's not a counter.


Inb4 you say he wanted to honor his deal.
Obito isn't the type of person to give a shit about his code of honor. He used Nagato like a pawn, planning to have him gather the bijuu to make his own dream a reality, only to find out Obito didn't give a shit about his dream, ultimately trapping Nagato in the Infinite Tsukuyomi, or leaving him dead after Rinne Tensei.

Obito wouldn't care about some stupid pact to leave Konoha alone. Not if that prevented him from completing his goals.
 
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1. First scan has the wrong translation, because the viz makes it out of context.

2. Itachi already knew about Obito's kamui, so those "secrets," that he was hiding had nothing to do with his MS.

If konan of all people knew Obito's kamui, then surely his two students pain and itachi would know first hand.

So if you truly believe that Obito's only move set revolved around Kamui and Inzanagi...

Then you'll never understand how Obito came to be leader.

Itachi admitted himself that he would EMS to even stand a chance against him, excluding the secret that he kept from him.

So no you got it all wrong
 
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No he cant...speed feats such are needed to counter Kamui
1- Tsukyuomi wont work MS users

2- Obito phases through Amatetrsu and Susanoo

3- If Obito feared Itachi all he had to do is tell Pain to tell the Akatsuki to kill Itachi

Also Obito could have killed Konan any time he wanted...he needed the Rinnegan so he kept her alive
 

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1. First scan has the wrong translation, because the viz makes it out of context.
Please provide the scan

2. Itachi already knew about Obito's kamui, so those "secrets," that he was hiding had nothing to do with his MS.
Not True
If konan of all people knew Obito's kamui, then surely his two students pain and itachi would know first hand.
Itachi wasn't his student. Obito stayed far away from him
So if you truly believe that Obito's only move set revolved around Kamui and Inzanagi...
That's the only threat he has to Itachi
Then you'll never understand how Obito came to be leader.

Itachi admitted himself that he would EMS to even stand a chance against him, excluding the secret that he kept from him.
He lied the entire battle.


So no you got it all wrong

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No he cant...speed feats such are needed to counter Kamui
1- Tsukyuomi wont work MS users
not a vs. thread
2- Obito phases through Amatetrsu and Susanoo
not a vs thread
3- If Obito feared Itachi all he had to do is tell Pain to tell the Akatsuki to kill Itachi
he needed Itachi
Also Obito could have killed Konan any time he wanted...he needed the Rinnegan so he kept her alive
Okay so?
 
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fear?
The only thing that kept both at bay was mutual respect . They had an agreement u know
15 year old Obito did not express any fear when he walked into Konoha with Minato and a younger Hiruzen
He wasn't afraid of them. Yes I agree they mutually respected each other, but the fear coming from Obito is undeniable.
 

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i completely agree...but its hilarious how people just chose to ignore facts like this. but i guess thats what happens when all they looking for are the fights smh....
 
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